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estrogone · 26/08/2026 02:44

Is it acceptable to hate on men openly without apology? Would it be ok of it were the other way round.

As a woman and mother of sons, the attitudes and comments on MN border on hate speech and I think Mumsnet HQ should do something about it.

Is this really how we want to balance the scales?

E: spelling

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Taztoy · 27/08/2026 20:21

There’s something really off about how you’re viewing this @DannyDeever I can’t put my finger on it but there’s something that comes off as odd to me in how you describe all this.

overpowering and arresting scrotes training isn’t a thing. Everyone knows that.

there’s an attitude in your posts that really makes me very unsettled

Thebutterflyslovemybush · 27/08/2026 20:25

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:16

I'm not claiming they don't have self defence and personal safety training. I'm claiming I was told they don't have "overpowering and arresting scrotes" training beciase it's so chaotic there aren't set moves youncan apply. It's literally a no holds barred aggression fueled fight.

Perhaps they're different forces.

Either way. Your evidence is "your niece told you" and my evidence is "two mates told me" so forumites can apply Hitchen's law and ignore us both!

So with all that said can you possibly deign to enlighten us all to the point of your statement:

Women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well with women's capability

Which sparked this whole thing off

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:25

GarlicAnything · 27/08/2026 19:43

Poor Danny has trouble with rational thought, it seems.
Here's the info he seemed incapable of googling for himself.
https://www.google.com/search?q=uk+police+women+combat+training

None of those links say what you think they say!

Taztoy · 27/08/2026 20:27

Thebutterflyslovemybush · 27/08/2026 20:25

So with all that said can you possibly deign to enlighten us all to the point of your statement:

Women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well with women's capability

Which sparked this whole thing off

I would like to know that too because I couldn’t physically control the violent criminal who decided to rape me.

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:28

Thebutterflyslovemybush · 27/08/2026 20:25

So with all that said can you possibly deign to enlighten us all to the point of your statement:

Women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well with women's capability

Which sparked this whole thing off

My point was women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well with women's capability.

Paste it into ChatGPT and ask.it to explain it to you?

Cheese55 · 27/08/2026 20:28

5128gap · 27/08/2026 19:31

The average man is between 50 and 100% stronger than the average women and 12% faster. So what do you think?
A female police officer has some protection, in that some men who will happily attack a female member of the public may think twice about committing the offence of assaulting a police officer wearing a body cam, who can call for back up and his immediate arrest. She also has a baton, CS spray and handcuffs.

Sometimes overpowering someone is about technique and women police officers are very well trained. I dont think police do hand on hand fighting anyway, they would use baton etc if it came to it.

Taztoy · 27/08/2026 20:28

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:28

My point was women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well with women's capability.

Paste it into ChatGPT and ask.it to explain it to you?

So it was well within my capabilities to control the man who was violently raping me, in your opinion?

MickyMoonshine · 27/08/2026 20:29

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:16

I'm not claiming they don't have self defence and personal safety training. I'm claiming I was told they don't have "overpowering and arresting scrotes" training beciase it's so chaotic there aren't set moves youncan apply. It's literally a no holds barred aggression fueled fight.

Perhaps they're different forces.

Either way. Your evidence is "your niece told you" and my evidence is "two mates told me" so forumites can apply Hitchen's law and ignore us both!

Well actually, I looked through the syllabus with her as I was helping her with her application. I also supported her through her policing studies college course which had elements of personal safety training too. Again, we studied the syllabus in great detail. There is a shared national framework for police training so it doesn’t
matter which force you join.

Police officers are also taught how to use physical control holds to restrain and arrest someone along with handcuffing techniques.

So whatever you were told is bollocks quite frankly.

Thebutterflyslovemybush · 27/08/2026 20:29

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:28

My point was women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well with women's capability.

Paste it into ChatGPT and ask.it to explain it to you?

Well no I'm asking you, unless all your replies are from chatGPT

MickyMoonshine · 27/08/2026 20:35

Taztoy · 27/08/2026 20:21

There’s something really off about how you’re viewing this @DannyDeever I can’t put my finger on it but there’s something that comes off as odd to me in how you describe all this.

overpowering and arresting scrotes training isn’t a thing. Everyone knows that.

there’s an attitude in your posts that really makes me very unsettled

There’s an air of superiority. Like he’s doing us a favour by educating us all.

I work with men like him and it’s bloody tiresome.

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:37

Oh to have the confidence of a mediocre man…

TBH, in my world mediocre is a rare and welcome compliment! I've finally ascended to average. 🎉

Thebutterflyslovemybush · 27/08/2026 20:37

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:28

My point was women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well with women's capability.

Paste it into ChatGPT and ask.it to explain it to you?

Honestly think the pigeon might be smarter

pigeon GIF
Thebutterflyslovemybush · 27/08/2026 20:40

MickyMoonshine · 27/08/2026 20:35

There’s an air of superiority. Like he’s doing us a favour by educating us all.

I work with men like him and it’s bloody tiresome.

Yeah he thinks he's making reasonable arguments but when asked to clarify his points he comes up with the old 'look it up yourself' line. Boring now

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:41

Thebutterflyslovemybush · 27/08/2026 20:29

Well no I'm asking you, unless all your replies are from chatGPT

OK well for the third time: My point was women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well within women's capability.

You can go all voynich and look for hidden meanings but I can't help with that. I said exactly what I meant.

Taztoy · 27/08/2026 20:42

Taztoy · 27/08/2026 20:28

So it was well within my capabilities to control the man who was violently raping me, in your opinion?

Trying again @DannyDeever

MickyMoonshine · 27/08/2026 20:44

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:41

OK well for the third time: My point was women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well within women's capability.

You can go all voynich and look for hidden meanings but I can't help with that. I said exactly what I meant.

But most women aren’t police officers so aren’t trained to physically control violent men.
Most men are capable of physically overpowering women.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

GarlicAnything · 27/08/2026 20:45

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:28

My point was women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well with women's capability.

Paste it into ChatGPT and ask.it to explain it to you?

You also said police women aren't given combat training as it's too 'chaotic' and your mates say they couldn't hack it.

I'd be confused if I were seriously trying to follow your meandering thought processes.

Taztoy · 27/08/2026 20:47

Do the army get combat training @DannyDeever ? What did your mates tell you about that?

Thebutterflyslovemybush · 27/08/2026 20:57

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:41

OK well for the third time: My point was women are commonly police officers so physically controlling violent criminals is well within women's capability.

You can go all voynich and look for hidden meanings but I can't help with that. I said exactly what I meant.

Christ tonight!! I wasn't asking the meaning of the words, I was asking what was YOUR point in writing them. What was your angle? Ffs this is a discussion forum, you may be out of your depth here

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:58

GarlicAnything · 27/08/2026 20:45

You also said police women aren't given combat training as it's too 'chaotic' and your mates say they couldn't hack it.

I'd be confused if I were seriously trying to follow your meandering thought processes.

I said police officers in general, not women police officers. I even quoted the post I was replying to, which specifically said police officers, not women police officers.

This is quite the digression! Not sure police training has any relevance to this thread at all! It was just an interesting fact I picked up this year. Maybe its wrong, as I say I can't provide any evidence for it so it's not a hill I need to die on!

Taztoy · 27/08/2026 20:59

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:58

I said police officers in general, not women police officers. I even quoted the post I was replying to, which specifically said police officers, not women police officers.

This is quite the digression! Not sure police training has any relevance to this thread at all! It was just an interesting fact I picked up this year. Maybe its wrong, as I say I can't provide any evidence for it so it's not a hill I need to die on!

It’s not a fact though.

MickyMoonshine · 27/08/2026 21:01

DannyDeever · 27/08/2026 20:58

I said police officers in general, not women police officers. I even quoted the post I was replying to, which specifically said police officers, not women police officers.

This is quite the digression! Not sure police training has any relevance to this thread at all! It was just an interesting fact I picked up this year. Maybe its wrong, as I say I can't provide any evidence for it so it's not a hill I need to die on!

What fact?
You’re the one who decided that because women can be police officers they can also defend themselves against violent men. Which doesn’t make any sense.

Taztoy · 27/08/2026 21:03

MickyMoonshine · 27/08/2026 21:01

What fact?
You’re the one who decided that because women can be police officers they can also defend themselves against violent men. Which doesn’t make any sense.

I’ve asked a few times for a discussion around what Danny thinks I should have done to defend myself against my violent rapist but he doesn’t want to answer me.

MickyMoonshine · 27/08/2026 21:05

Taztoy · 27/08/2026 21:03

I’ve asked a few times for a discussion around what Danny thinks I should have done to defend myself against my violent rapist but he doesn’t want to answer me.

I think he’s out of his depth tbh.
I’m so sorry that you’ve had that experience.

Taztoy · 27/08/2026 21:07

MickyMoonshine · 27/08/2026 21:05

I think he’s out of his depth tbh.
I’m so sorry that you’ve had that experience.

I can’t describe it in details here because it’s too upsetting for others to read. Which irritates me because I think women should be able to speak about what gets done to them.

but themz the roolz here.