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Does anyone else feel the UK is heading towards a crisis?

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whatnextt · 23/08/2026 00:25

Price rises not coming down, cost of living gone mad, car crashes, heatwave after heat wave, wild fires.
NHS is falling, NHS dentist is like winning the loto, threats from russia.
Bills cost more than anything.
Benefit bill is out of control.
People getting attacked.

I may have missed a few things, but it feels like the UK is just building up to something big gonna kick off.
Im sure it won't but life is just crap right now.
Not to mention we are gonna get a hell of a winter with this EL nion predicted.

I feel like saying lets have a full war and end this crap then re start again( figure of speech), not living just surviving.
And the cost of being a parent now is unreal.

Rant over.

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Mindblowing · 23/08/2026 20:38

HesterLeggatt · 23/08/2026 20:32

But those shouting immigrant whilst getting fucked by billionaires have it all figured out…..? Hmm

Maybe the billionaires are earning from immigration?

HMO landlords are being offered very good money.

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 20:40

HesterLeggatt · 23/08/2026 20:32

But those shouting immigrant whilst getting fucked by billionaires have it all figured out…..? Hmm

So you see what happened to Rhiannon Whyte, the woman in Brighton, the elderly man, the Belfast victim and you want to absolve the gov from doing anything because of billionaires?

Mindblowing · 23/08/2026 20:41

Wasn’t the Southport murderer second generation?

Devonshiregal · 23/08/2026 20:44

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 20:22

Sure. You’re overlooking the victims. It doesn’t have to happen. The gov has a basic duty to fix that problem.

This person is never going to listen because they don't want to hear. She's comparing asylum seekers to roller-skates and 'white men' to cars ffs.

We don't want rollerskates if they're going to add to the bloody number of rapes, thank you. We already have enough of our own rapes, as she point out, without adding to the numbers by bringing young men over from countries where their cultural standards for women are completely opposed to our own.

And it isn't about racism. Or rollerskates. It's about men. Because men rape, whether they are cars or rollerskates. It's the same thing. BUT we can't just get rid of the men that already exist here (of any ethnic background before someone starts) but we can say, no we don't want more men - especially not ones who come from cultures where men treat women like crap!

If there were boats of women and children coming people would be helping them. But theyre not. It's young men.

Clavinova · 23/08/2026 20:44

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:07

That’s not quite accurate. Any Ukranian refugee would have been eligible to seek asylum. That they chose not to is a different matter. It is not clear whether those who left have returned to the Ukraine, but they are all still eligible to return. To say it was “sold as temporary” is a bit of a stretch, what is true is that pretty much every visa requirement was relaxed to allow them in and the waivers have been extended. We’re over 4 years in to the war, with no end in site, how likely do you think it is that someone with a family who have been here for 4 years, are somewhat settled and have no home or family to return to will leave as soon as the war is done? Do you think the British people would have been less welcoming if, in her speech, Priti Patel had explicitly said the Ukrainians would be welcome to stay as long as they wanted?

I know people like to bend over backward to paint Ukrainian refugees as different for all sorts of reasons but I haven’t yet found anyone making a solid argument for that.

To say it was “sold as temporary” is a bit of a stretch

Perhaps the [Labour] government would like to correct the record then;

"We have always been clear that the Ukraine schemes provide temporary sanctuary in the UK only while the war in Ukraine remains ongoing, and that they are not a route to settlement in the UK. This is in line with the express wishes of the Ukrainian government, who will need their nationals to return to help rebuild the country when it is safe to do so."

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:49

Mindblowing · 23/08/2026 20:14

I assume they have a vested interest in immigration as HMO landlords, or working in an industry that profits from immigration. Or maybe shares in companies that benefit from immigration.

Others are bound to be involved with covering up rape gangs - there must have been so many people who cover up for gang rape. Teachers, nurses, doctors, social workers, counsellors, councillors, MPs, police etc. Sone are bound to post on here.

You know who did have a vested interest? The Conservative politicians who handed contracts to those who provide accommodation for asylum seekers, whilst slow walking the asylum process. Some of whom have defected to Reform where they benefit from an electorate who have a problem with the cost of housing asylum seekers.

But, if it makes you happier to think I am some slum landlord with a dozen HMOs in my portfolio, rolling on the floor in my piles of cash, then go right ahead. That makes it easier to stay in your echo chamber, free from any pesky facts and statistics that shake the foundations of your opinions.

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:50

Clavinova · 23/08/2026 20:44

To say it was “sold as temporary” is a bit of a stretch

Perhaps the [Labour] government would like to correct the record then;

"We have always been clear that the Ukraine schemes provide temporary sanctuary in the UK only while the war in Ukraine remains ongoing, and that they are not a route to settlement in the UK. This is in line with the express wishes of the Ukrainian government, who will need their nationals to return to help rebuild the country when it is safe to do so."

The Labour Government was not in power when the Ukranian Refugees were first invited.

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:51

FlyingApple · 23/08/2026 20:37

That’s literally the tactic, call ordinary people racist, then what about billionaires etc to knock people off balance and shut down the immigration debate. That deliberate contempt for legitimate concerns is why I see it as malicious.

Legitimate concerns first have to be legitimate and not a single source based in fact supports that assertion.

Mindblowing · 23/08/2026 20:53

So if a HMO landlord with 1 x 5 bed property get £34 per migrant per day - £5100 approx per month = 61k per year.

HMO landlord with 5 houses = over 300k a year.

Lloyds etc are buying up homes to rent. So maybe billionaires and private companies are partially to blame.

Sources -

Lloyds Banking Group has aggressively expanded into the private rental sector through its Lloyds Living division, transforming from a traditional mortgage lender into a major residential landlord. The bank aims to acquire 50,000 rental homes by 2030, with its portfolio currently valued at approximately £2 billion and comprising over 7,000 to 8,850 properties across the UK.

https://landlordknowledge.co.uk/landlords-offered-five-year-full-rent-deals-to-house-asylum-seekers/

The Telegraph’s report notes that accommodating migrants in private rented homes could cost the government as little as £34 per night, compared to an estimated £145 per night for hotel accommodation. As the weather improves and the number of ‘small boat’ crossings is expected to increase, the pressure to secure long-term housing solutions is mounting.
From a business perspective, the Serco deal offers a rare opportunity for landlords to secure predictable, government-backed rental income, potentially sidestepping the uncertainties associated with private tenants and looming legislative changes.

@HesterLeggatt yep billionaire may well be profiting from this.

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 20:53

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:51

Legitimate concerns first have to be legitimate and not a single source based in fact supports that assertion.

It is legitimate to think the crimes shouldn’t happen at all.

Why argue the opposite to that?

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:56

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 20:40

So you see what happened to Rhiannon Whyte, the woman in Brighton, the elderly man, the Belfast victim and you want to absolve the gov from doing anything because of billionaires?

I’d like to see the government tackle the issues that billionaires cause, which affect us way more as a nation. They could do this alongside anything we’d like them to do to fix the asylum issue.

You mention Belfast, what do you think the government should do about the families who were burned out of their homes, by rioters looking for anyone who wasn’t white? You ok with that?

Efrogwraig · 23/08/2026 20:57

No.

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:58

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 20:53

It is legitimate to think the crimes shouldn’t happen at all.

Why argue the opposite to that?

It’s legitimate to think all crimes shouldn’t happen. Is it legitimate only to focus on those by asylum seekers and extrapolate that to suggest all asylum seekers are rapists and should be “sent back”.

FlyingApple · 23/08/2026 21:00

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:51

Legitimate concerns first have to be legitimate and not a single source based in fact supports that assertion.

And there’s the tactic again 😂 Declare the concerns illegitimate, demand some undefined standard of "sources" and there you go, no immigration debate required. You’re rather proving my point.

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 21:04

backformoreofthesame · 23/08/2026 20:32

Well that sounds like situation normal

when have prices ever gone down?

At least mortgage rates are way below the 15% peak - that was tough. Actually it’s over a decade since I heard of people losing homes due to repossession - that must be at a much lower level than ever before

NHS - we’ll we have had far to many right wing governments and too many selfish people

Russia - at yes who remembers leaning about the possibility of nuclear attack at school ?

attacks have always happened but I suspect overall violence is down over the decades not up

is the benefit bill out of control or just larger than you would like?

Repossessions in 2024 increased by over 50%. Landlord possessions were also rising. Still way below the highs of 2009 or highest ever in 1992. Incidentally, the number of repossessions when interest rates were 15% was way lower than it has been at any time since.

backformoreofthesame · 23/08/2026 21:06

so repossessions are low now ?

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 21:07

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:58

It’s legitimate to think all crimes shouldn’t happen. Is it legitimate only to focus on those by asylum seekers and extrapolate that to suggest all asylum seekers are rapists and should be “sent back”.

If you want the system we have then how will you know who is a risk?

And if you don’t know you sound fine with what happens next, another crime along the same lines as Brighton or Rhiannon Whyte

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 21:09

FlyingApple · 23/08/2026 21:00

And there’s the tactic again 😂 Declare the concerns illegitimate, demand some undefined standard of "sources" and there you go, no immigration debate required. You’re rather proving my point.

Actually, you’re proving mine. Citing “legitimate concerns” without any substantive information to back them up then claiming you are being shut down over your legitimate concerns.

For the avoidance of doubt: We need to control immigration to make sure it is targeted to meet the demands of our economy, and that public services can support the population = legitimate concern.

We need to stop all “illegals” from “flooding” our country because they are all coming here to rape our women = not legitimate because it is based on falsehood and misinformation.

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 21:14

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 21:07

If you want the system we have then how will you know who is a risk?

And if you don’t know you sound fine with what happens next, another crime along the same lines as Brighton or Rhiannon Whyte

Are you deliberately ignoring posts where I talk about the problems with the system and how we could change it or did you miss them?

Do you need more help with what I have written previously, I can give you more information to help you with the comprehension if you’d like? Because of it’s not a lack of comprehension, I’m really struggling to see how you believe I have claimed that I’m fine with any woman being attacked by any man.

Can I deduce your solution to all of this is to never allow anyone from anywhere other than war torn northern Europe to seek shelter on our shores and even then it can only be “temporary” albeit for an indeterminate period of time?

narkyspirit · 23/08/2026 21:17

we're not heading towards a crisis, we arrived some time ago.

too many people on this island is the crisis

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 21:18

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 21:14

Are you deliberately ignoring posts where I talk about the problems with the system and how we could change it or did you miss them?

Do you need more help with what I have written previously, I can give you more information to help you with the comprehension if you’d like? Because of it’s not a lack of comprehension, I’m really struggling to see how you believe I have claimed that I’m fine with any woman being attacked by any man.

Can I deduce your solution to all of this is to never allow anyone from anywhere other than war torn northern Europe to seek shelter on our shores and even then it can only be “temporary” albeit for an indeterminate period of time?

I don’t need this approach no, even if it makes you feel good for a moment.

You are posting heavily against changes, not me. Why is that?

I’ve already explained to you a humanitarian visa system. You can scroll back to read again.

You won’t get there by absolving the government from making any changes, ensuring no one highlights crimes and fighting on every thread women who do want change.

ChildrenOfAlbionRovers · 23/08/2026 21:22
Hmm
BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 21:22

backformoreofthesame · 23/08/2026 21:06

so repossessions are low now ?

Lower than in 2009, by about 2/3. But rising sharply since 2022. There are around 20,000 per year at the moment. I’m not sure I would call that low. Seems quite a big number to me, especially given the number of households with a mortgage is 11% lower than it was in 2009.

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 21:25

AndyKitten · 23/08/2026 20:25

That makes no sense at all.

Really? If your house was flooding you’d ignore the hole in the roof and decant the water with a teaspoon? You can’t see the sense in putting more resources to solve a large problem rather than focussing all efforts in a small one?

If that doesn’t make sense to you, I can’t help you.

AndyKitten · 23/08/2026 21:28

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 21:25

Really? If your house was flooding you’d ignore the hole in the roof and decant the water with a teaspoon? You can’t see the sense in putting more resources to solve a large problem rather than focussing all efforts in a small one?

If that doesn’t make sense to you, I can’t help you.

Where did I say I needed help from you?

No, thanks.

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