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Does anyone else feel the UK is heading towards a crisis?

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whatnextt · 23/08/2026 00:25

Price rises not coming down, cost of living gone mad, car crashes, heatwave after heat wave, wild fires.
NHS is falling, NHS dentist is like winning the loto, threats from russia.
Bills cost more than anything.
Benefit bill is out of control.
People getting attacked.

I may have missed a few things, but it feels like the UK is just building up to something big gonna kick off.
Im sure it won't but life is just crap right now.
Not to mention we are gonna get a hell of a winter with this EL nion predicted.

I feel like saying lets have a full war and end this crap then re start again( figure of speech), not living just surviving.
And the cost of being a parent now is unreal.

Rant over.

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Mindblowing · 23/08/2026 20:14

Livelovebehappy · 23/08/2026 20:10

Well lets be honest, we've given a platform to these people for years. And we've been conditioned to believe that to have an opposing opinion makes us racist and intolerent. Now the poor loves are frothing at the mouth because we see exactly who they are and what they stand for and we're no longer listening to their uneducated rantings.

I assume they have a vested interest in immigration as HMO landlords, or working in an industry that profits from immigration. Or maybe shares in companies that benefit from immigration.

Others are bound to be involved with covering up rape gangs - there must have been so many people who cover up for gang rape. Teachers, nurses, doctors, social workers, counsellors, councillors, MPs, police etc. Sone are bound to post on here.

HesterLeggatt · 23/08/2026 20:14

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 20:12

I don’t see why you’re pushing so hard on this, the crimes that happen due to lax vetting and controls could stop. Why wouldn’t you want that to stop?

Why prioritise the male perpetrators over victims?

If 3 million people died every year from car accidents, and 3 people a year died every year from roller skating accidents, would you want all the safety efforts, media attention and outrage to be on cars, or roller skates….?

You are all screaming at roller skates.

Jackdog39 · 23/08/2026 20:15

I agree with the doom-laden view of the future, but as a little ray of sunshine, my son and his girlfriend moved to London three years ago and, thanks to his girlfriend’s sheer tenacity and relentless chasing of practices, they have finally managed to secure an NHS dentist. Honestly, it felt like they’d won the lottery!
I’m aware this is really very small good news in relation to the state of the country, but it felt like a little victory worth celebrating!

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:15

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 20:08

It wasn’t the asylum system.

If you want to use humanitarian visas not asylum then it’s closer to Australia’s system.

Much easier to vet and limit.

I understand the mechanics are different but the outcome is the same. More people from another country being allowed to stay here pretty much for as long as they want, to shelter from danger. How does that make them different.

I know little about the Australian System, how would that work in practice here.

SoftMiddle · 23/08/2026 20:18

Livelovebehappy · 23/08/2026 20:10

Well lets be honest, we've given a platform to these people for years. And we've been conditioned to believe that to have an opposing opinion makes us racist and intolerent. Now the poor loves are frothing at the mouth because we see exactly who they are and what they stand for and we're no longer listening to their uneducated rantings.

I'm not standing for it, anymore. I have daughters and I'm a woman and I am not being gaslit into being passive against the dangers.

Livelovebehappy · 23/08/2026 20:20

HesterLeggatt · 23/08/2026 20:01

Except we aren’t importing rapists and murderers. We’re allowing people the chance of a better life. Some of them will be people who do awful things, and some of them will be people who do amazing things. The vast, vast majority are normal people who will become part of our communities, pay their taxes and contribute to our economy, and live perfectly ordinary and boring lives.

And you know this how?

Mindblowing · 23/08/2026 20:20

HesterLeggatt · 23/08/2026 20:11

Firstly, conviction rate is not the same thing as commission rate. Secondly, you are quoting data that’s over a decade out of date?

That’s my first post - it was very bad over ten years ago. My second post contains a more recent article. It’s not getting any better over time as second generation immigrants are no better! The data is from the Danish Ministry of
Justice.

Another extract suggests it’s getting worse.

Figures from the Danish Correctional Servicesshow that 27.6% of the incarcerated in Denmark are first- or second-generation immigrants. Adding foreigners (a category that includes illegal immigrants, tourists, and others who don’t officially live in the country) to the count, over 31% of the Danish prison population is—not Danish. That is up from 26.8% ten years ago. Here, again, a troubling trend can be seen: While the number of incarcerated immigrants and foreigners has remained relatively stable, the number of second-generation immigrants in prisons has risen steadily since 2014.

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 20:20

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 20:15

I understand the mechanics are different but the outcome is the same. More people from another country being allowed to stay here pretty much for as long as they want, to shelter from danger. How does that make them different.

I know little about the Australian System, how would that work in practice here.

It’s quite different though in terms of safety and control. You can vet first, remember there was criticism because it took some time, each person (mostly women and children) had to be checked.

You can control who it is, if you want more women and children that’s possible.

And the numbers are completely what is wanted.

Imo the public would be more amenable to a vetted, controlled system but the current gaslighting is eroding that opportunity. As time goes on more people will probably say no thanks to that too.

Perhaps we’re not there yet and stopping this current system could be replaced by a visa system but it takes hardline policy to get there.

SoftMiddle · 23/08/2026 20:21

Mindblowing · 23/08/2026 20:14

I assume they have a vested interest in immigration as HMO landlords, or working in an industry that profits from immigration. Or maybe shares in companies that benefit from immigration.

Others are bound to be involved with covering up rape gangs - there must have been so many people who cover up for gang rape. Teachers, nurses, doctors, social workers, counsellors, councillors, MPs, police etc. Sone are bound to post on here.

Only thing that makes sense. The push to make us deny reality is so hard and intense and unrelenting.

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 20:22

HesterLeggatt · 23/08/2026 20:14

If 3 million people died every year from car accidents, and 3 people a year died every year from roller skating accidents, would you want all the safety efforts, media attention and outrage to be on cars, or roller skates….?

You are all screaming at roller skates.

Sure. You’re overlooking the victims. It doesn’t have to happen. The gov has a basic duty to fix that problem.

AndyKitten · 23/08/2026 20:25

BoredZelda · 23/08/2026 19:47

Nope. It’s actually violence by all men is bad. If we only focus on a small number of men who are bad, the much, much larger number of men who are bad will continue doing it and women are still not safe.

That makes no sense at all.

Devonshiregal · 23/08/2026 20:26

Besidemyselfwithworry · 23/08/2026 00:38

One of the school mums I know is a health visitor and she said that a huge number of people aren’t taking their kids to the dentist if they can’t go for free. I think it almost boarders on neglect and like she said the people she visits who moan they can’t afford to take this kids all have the latest play stations, brand new sofas, are going on holiday, potentially smoke, drink, go out for meals etc etc yet they can’t spare £20 for a kids check up every 6-12 months.

priorities

I am religious about dentist and opticians etc so I'm not one of those parents - but I can say it sounds like your health visitor friend is being a shit-stirring cow.

Firstly, it isn't appropriate for her to be talking to people about the people she visits - she is also in a role where she meets vulnerable people, people who share intimate details of their lives with her. What an awful, unprofessional woman that she would go gossiping about them.

Secondly, she's talking out of her arse to be a shit-stirrer. When kids are little and haven't got any problems with their teeth, paying money to go to a private dentist because the NHS (which we all contribute to) isn't assigned funding properly, seems pretty bloody annoying.

Imagine not having much money, and paying 25-50 quid per kid to have a dentist glance in their mouth and say yeah their teeth are fine....pretty frustrating. However, an xbox (I dont have one nor let my kids play games so just playing devil's advocate) lasts years and can provide entertainment day in and day out. And if you smoke, you have an addiction which is incredibly hard to break. It isn't like everyone who smokes is just a negligent parent who doesn't care. You can't just switch off an addiction. That's what makes it an addiction.

Sheepsmellnice · 23/08/2026 20:27

I think the main crisis at the moment is immigration. Sort that and things definitely will improve. We're spending too much supporting people from other countries.

SoftMiddle · 23/08/2026 20:28

HesterLeggatt · 23/08/2026 19:59

Firstly, you think verified statistics from the Office of National Statistics are made up gaslighting, but Wikipedia, which can literally be edited by absolutely anyone is an accurate source…?

Secondly, I’m not sure what point you’re even trying to make? What does the ethnicity of the DCR have to do with rape statistics in the UK, exactly? Do you want to maybe try again in a way that actually makes sense?

Wikipedia gives sources. More than one. More than the one you favour.

An internet search will also confirm via other sources.

That's the last response you get from me since you like reporting posts when your point of view is challenged.

Clavinova · 23/08/2026 20:29

HesterLeggatt · 23/08/2026 19:48

These statistics are from the ONS and Rape Crisis.

Perpetrator relationship: Over half of victims (54.7%) know the perpetrator as a current or former partner, and roughly 6 in 7 rapes against women are committed by someone they know. 1, 2, 3]”

The ONS Crime Survey is clearly a survey. Also, the notes are not very reassuring:

Notes:
Data for YE March 2022 are not designated as accredited official statistics. Caution should be taken when using these data, because the quality of estimates may be affected by the reduced data collection period and lower response rates.
Data for YE March 2023 are based on eight months of data collection because of an error in the survey, which resulted in missing data. Caution should be taken when using these data because of the impact of the reduced data collection period on the quality of the estimates.
Data for YE March 2024 and YE March 2025 are based on a half sample. Caution should be taken because of the impact of the reduced sample size on the quality of the data.

Mindblowing · 23/08/2026 20:29

SoftMiddle · 23/08/2026 20:21

Only thing that makes sense. The push to make us deny reality is so hard and intense and unrelenting.

If you list who benefits from continued immigration. From NGO workers to house builders, to charity staff, to men who want to rape women and girls. Etc etc. Even people with investments.

How many women’s lives are ruined? How many women can’t work or have a relationship or kids due to stranger rape?

We live in a country where the Mass Rape of girls by Pakistani men was covered up by the government!

Citizens had to crowd fund a rape inquiry for children who were raped by men.

If the ‘good guys’ can cover up / not report raped and tortured children and attempt to justify why the raped girls didn’t need an inquiry (see numerous threads on MN justifying Labour not pushing ahead with an inquiry into gang raped kids) they can certainty cover up anything.

There is a reason the gov don’t publish migrant crime data. If it looked good it would be all over the news.

AndyKitten · 23/08/2026 20:29

AndyKitten · 23/08/2026 20:25

That makes no sense at all.

And it’s insulting to the women who have been the victim of the violence you choose to ignore for the Greater Good.

FlyingApple · 23/08/2026 20:31

I truly believe those that are still shouting racist at people who don't want more immigration have sadistic tendencies.

pipthomson · 23/08/2026 20:31

Why don’t you write a‘gratitude list’ there are plenty of people worse off than us!

EasternStandard · 23/08/2026 20:32

AndyKitten · 23/08/2026 20:29

And it’s insulting to the women who have been the victim of the violence you choose to ignore for the Greater Good.

I don’t get this motivation either. Why just say oh well to those crimes when they can end. It’s horrendous stuff.

backformoreofthesame · 23/08/2026 20:32

Well that sounds like situation normal

when have prices ever gone down?

At least mortgage rates are way below the 15% peak - that was tough. Actually it’s over a decade since I heard of people losing homes due to repossession - that must be at a much lower level than ever before

NHS - we’ll we have had far to many right wing governments and too many selfish people

Russia - at yes who remembers leaning about the possibility of nuclear attack at school ?

attacks have always happened but I suspect overall violence is down over the decades not up

is the benefit bill out of control or just larger than you would like?

HesterLeggatt · 23/08/2026 20:32

FlyingApple · 23/08/2026 20:31

I truly believe those that are still shouting racist at people who don't want more immigration have sadistic tendencies.

But those shouting immigrant whilst getting fucked by billionaires have it all figured out…..? Hmm

Mindblowing · 23/08/2026 20:34

@HesterLeggatt

extract from your source

The Online Safety Act 2023 introduced two new sexual offences: "Sharing or threatening to share intimate photograph or film" and "Sending etc photograph or film of genitals". These new offences were first recorded by police forces on 31 January 2024. Their introduction has had an impact on police recorded crime data on sexual offences for YE March 2025 and caution should be taken when making comparisons with figures for previous years.

Maybe the gov deliberately included this under the same section to fudge the figures. I believe this should be under a digital sex crime section.

They covered up the mass gang rape of children for years. I can imagine them fudging this to cover up migrant rape.

FlyingApple · 23/08/2026 20:37

HesterLeggatt · 23/08/2026 20:32

But those shouting immigrant whilst getting fucked by billionaires have it all figured out…..? Hmm

That’s literally the tactic, call ordinary people racist, then what about billionaires etc to knock people off balance and shut down the immigration debate. That deliberate contempt for legitimate concerns is why I see it as malicious.

ThatJadeLion · 23/08/2026 20:38

Sheepsmellnice · 23/08/2026 20:27

I think the main crisis at the moment is immigration. Sort that and things definitely will improve. We're spending too much supporting people from other countries.

I agree with all of this. I wonder why so many people are in denial or disagree. I see the effects so much where I live.