Does anyone else feel the UK is heading towards a crisis?

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Price rises not coming down, cost of living gone mad, car crashes, heatwave after heat wave, wild fires.
NHS is falling, NHS dentist is like winning the loto, threats from russia.
Bills cost more than anything.
Benefit bill is out of control.
People getting attacked.

I may have missed a few things, but it feels like the UK is just building up to something big gonna kick off.
Im sure it won't but life is just crap right now.
Not to mention we are gonna get a hell of a winter with this EL nion predicted.

I feel like saying lets have a full war and end this crap then re start again( figure of speech), not living just surviving.
And the cost of being a parent now is unreal.

Rant over.

I’m amazed she asks the religious leaning of every man who harasses her.

Why don't you actually talk to women of particular cultures or visit and live in their countries instead of trying to make us all believe in your fantasy world.

Ah. You don’t know what a statistic is. I see. Goodness, that’s embarrassing for you! 🤣

A statistic IS a fact, dear. It’s a proven piece of information. The ONS is the office of national statistics. They’re a government body collecting data from the police and the crown prosecution service.

I think your comment might be the most toe curlingly embarrassing admission of ignorance I’ve seen in a while - thanks for the laugh! 🤣

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo

Wonder how many white men are here?

You are trying really hard to come across as an intellect and failing.

You can fool other fools but you can't fool me.

Of course there is, and always has been, outrage for victims of dv, rape and murder by people born here. Nothing we can do about that other than prison and rehabillitation processes. But why do you think its ok to import murderers and rapists, giving the crap excuse of 'well we already have some, so does it matter if we import more?'

An example of cultural differences and attitudes towards women:

As Noel Rwabirinba, a sixteen-year-old who had been a militiaman for two years said, "If we see girls, it's our right...we can violate them."[7] This statement reflects the normalization of rape in the DRC. Because of conflicts, between 60 and 90 percent of women are single heads of households. This puts many burdens upon them, such as having to travel long distances to find resources, leaving them vulnerable to violence.[24]

Firstly, you think verified statistics from the Office of National Statistics are made up gaslighting, but Wikipedia, which can literally be edited by absolutely anyone is an accurate source…?

Secondly, I’m not sure what point you’re even trying to make? What does the ethnicity of the DCR have to do with rape statistics in the UK, exactly? Do you want to maybe try again in a way that actually makes sense?

I've highlighted only ONE culture where women are in danger due to cultural norms. I could go on all day.

I'm done on this thread now but I needed to make the point that gaslighting about the serious issue of cultural issues that threaten women will not stand without challenge.

If we don't acknowledge the truth, and let people like @BoredZelda @HesterLeggatt support abusive cultures through gaslighting, we will never be able to tackle this issue because, according to them, there isn't one!

Except we aren’t importing rapists and murderers. We’re allowing people the chance of a better life. Some of them will be people who do awful things, and some of them will be people who do amazing things. The vast, vast majority are normal people who will become part of our communities, pay their taxes and contribute to our economy, and live perfectly ordinary and boring lives.

It’s not that funny. All this don’t notice the crimes doesn’t help the victims.

Stop what you can and work on the men here.

Why not? It’s a basic duty of government

😂😂

That’s not quite accurate. Any Ukranian refugee would have been eligible to seek asylum. That they chose not to is a different matter. It is not clear whether those who left have returned to the Ukraine, but they are all still eligible to return. To say it was “sold as temporary” is a bit of a stretch, what is true is that pretty much every visa requirement was relaxed to allow them in and the waivers have been extended. We’re over 4 years in to the war, with no end in site, how likely do you think it is that someone with a family who have been here for 4 years, are somewhat settled and have no home or family to return to will leave as soon as the war is done? Do you think the British people would have been less welcoming if, in her speech, Priti Patel had explicitly said the Ukrainians would be welcome to stay as long as they wanted?

I know people like to bend over backward to paint Ukrainian refugees as different for all sorts of reasons but I haven’t yet found anyone making a solid argument for that.

Oh bless you. I’m sure it made sense in your head.

We aren’t in the DRC. The UK has about 30,000 - 35,000 people from the DRC living here, almost all of whom came here legally, and the UK has a deportation agreement with the DRC. The number of violent crimes documented in the UK by people from the DRC is in single digits. If it’s a prevalent national cultural attitude that you think they’d bring here then I’m afraid the facts already disprove that.

It wasn’t the asylum system.

If you want to use humanitarian visas not asylum then it’s closer to Australia’s system.

Much easier to vet and limit.

We just moved to Germany. So far good.

When I told my NHS psychiatrist that I am moving he said that I am leaving the sinking ship.

As the U.K. gov are not keen on publishing accurate data I can only assume it’s similar to Denmark. AI but there is plenty of data out there.

According to Danish statistics from 2010–2014, the average rape conviction rate for individuals of Afghan origin was 18.1 per 100,000 persons, compared to 0.7 per 100,000 for ethnic Danes, making Afghans approximately 25 times more likely to be convicted of rape in that period.
Broader data indicates that non-Western immigrants, a group that includes a significant number of Afghans, constitute about 10.6% of the Danish population but are responsible for 32.4% of all rapes and 29.6% of violent crimes.

Someone insisting that statistics aren’t facts whilst trying to Wikipedia is very, very funny.

what is NOT funny is everyone being so keen to blame migrants for all rape and murder we ignore the homegrown domestic violence epidemic sweeping our country.

Well lets be honest, we've given a platform to these people for years. And we've been conditioned to believe that to have an opposing opinion makes us racist and intolerent. Now the poor loves are frothing at the mouth because we see exactly who they are and what they stand for and we're no longer listening to their uneducated rantings.

europeanconservative.com/articles/news/non-western-immigrants-commit-one-third-of-rapes-and-violent-crimes-in-denmark/

Extract -
Citing numbers from the Ministry of Justice, Berlingske reports that non-Western immigrants, who make up 8.4% of the Danish population, commit 14% of the country’s crimes of aggravated violence and 24.3% of the rapes, judging by number of convicted.
Maybe even more concerning are the figures for second-generation non-Western immigrants. Making up a mere 2.2% of the population, this demographic is responsible for 15.6% of the violent crimes and 8.1% of the rapes.
Put together, this means perpetrators of 29.6% of the country’s violent crimes and 32.4% of rapes are from a non-Western background, despite only making up 10.6% of the population.

Firstly, conviction rate is not the same thing as commission rate. Secondly, you are quoting data that’s over a decade out of date?

You can't have a serious conversation on Mumsnet. They censor EVERYTHING that goes against their chosen narrative. Rape and violence against women is a serious topic and a woman advocate site wants to pick and choose which rapists we can discuss. Well done, @MNHQ

I’d be up for that. I would vote for any party who said “we are going to stop the boats AND we are going to invest heavily in programs which focus on eradicating violence against women and girls, harsher sentences for domestic abusers, work to increase the reporting and conviction rates for rape, provide more support to Women’s Aid organisations and make our streets safe at night”.

Seems unlikely though when their entire focus is on the boats.

I don’t see why you’re pushing so hard on this, the crimes that happen due to lax vetting and controls could stop. Why wouldn’t you want that to stop?

Why prioritise the male perpetrators over victims?