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Thread 53 Starmer: Insania Aestiva

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DuncinToffee · 30/06/2026 17:44

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SerendipityJane · 04/07/2026 11:10

Notonthestairs · 04/07/2026 10:28

hey, a man's gotta make a living - selling dumb fucking ideas is as good a grift as anything.

It's not like he's going to get a £5 million bung anytime soon.

It would be irresponsible to start rumours that Farages backers are appalled that Burnham became an MP for £0.

"We paid you £5,000,000 and there's folk that would do if for free ?" they would say. Whilst noting that the £0 candidate is now looking to be PM before the froth has settled on Nigels pint.

DuncinToffee · 04/07/2026 11:52

Reform Nottinghamshire could not find any sponsors for their £75,000 flag initiative

Meanwhile there was a ban on pride flags by Calderdale’s new reform council so there was an appeal which raised £8000 in just a few days funding 30 banners for a year. The council threatened to take them down but they can’t.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg542763pko

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SerendipityJane · 04/07/2026 12:22

DuncinToffee · 04/07/2026 11:52

Reform Nottinghamshire could not find any sponsors for their £75,000 flag initiative

Meanwhile there was a ban on pride flags by Calderdale’s new reform council so there was an appeal which raised £8000 in just a few days funding 30 banners for a year. The council threatened to take them down but they can’t.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg542763pko

Pleased to see they have solved the endemic problems in Nottingham in order to spend time on this.

MsJinks · 04/07/2026 12:28

5128gap · 03/07/2026 18:40

Thank you so much. And I yours, and those of everyone on this thread. So happy to have stumbled across the place where the MNetters who's posts most inspire me and restore my faith in human nature hang out.
I shall be giving myself a stiff neck with all the enthusiastic nodding I'll be doing, and might have to pop back to a Reform thread to give it a rest.😊

Welcome - this is such a nice thread to be on - cats, taxes, normal thinkers, friendly debate - I was so glad to find it and it’s so lovely to feel welcome too.

I sometimes battle Reform threads - like I sometimes battle them in real life - it’s somewhat disheartening in a lot of ways - but when I lose patience and say what I really think it can be cathartic too ha!

MsJinks · 04/07/2026 12:29

DuncinToffee · 04/07/2026 11:52

Reform Nottinghamshire could not find any sponsors for their £75,000 flag initiative

Meanwhile there was a ban on pride flags by Calderdale’s new reform council so there was an appeal which raised £8000 in just a few days funding 30 banners for a year. The council threatened to take them down but they can’t.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg542763pko

Bit like when Farage criticises the RNLI and their donations actually increase. Always a silver lining!

pointythings · 04/07/2026 12:32

It's telling that Calderdale has taken the anti VAWG flag off their list.

MsJinks · 04/07/2026 12:33

Notonthestairs · 04/07/2026 08:11

this made me giggle - mortgage rate flex based on fertility (for British couples only)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/matt-goodwin-reform-mortgages-children-women-taxation-b3007601.html

Jeez - how do they think up this bollocks - and why is anyone even interested in what Goodwin ‘thinks’ - using that word loosely.

MsJinks · 04/07/2026 12:34

pointythings · 04/07/2026 12:32

It's telling that Calderdale has taken the anti VAWG flag off their list.

That’s really bad 😖

TemperanceWest · 04/07/2026 12:36

pointythings · 04/07/2026 12:32

It's telling that Calderdale has taken the anti VAWG flag off their list.

It really is.

SerendipityJane · 04/07/2026 13:30

MsJinks · 04/07/2026 12:33

Jeez - how do they think up this bollocks - and why is anyone even interested in what Goodwin ‘thinks’ - using that word loosely.

A chatbot sez :

Birth Trends Over Time (UK) European (White British) ──────► Declining Sharply (Down from ~70% to ~55% of total births)
Asian (All Categories) ──────► Rising Steadily (Driven by newer migration and age profiles)

Great to see Reform promoting a policy to drive diversity, equality and inclusivity.

TemperanceWest · 04/07/2026 14:28

Burnham did an AMA on Redditt. Badenoch joined Reddit simply so she could plop this. God woman, grow up! You could have at least asked a proper question.

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Notonthestairs · 04/07/2026 14:31

TemperanceWest · 04/07/2026 14:28

Burnham did an AMA on Redditt. Badenoch joined Reddit simply so she could plop this. God woman, grow up! You could have at least asked a proper question.

I saw that. Very funny.
Perennially online Twitter addict Kemi complaining about someone being online.

DuncinToffee · 04/07/2026 14:37

I saw Burnham's answer to that.

He is a far better communicator than Starmer.

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MsJinks · 04/07/2026 14:49

SerendipityJane · 04/07/2026 14:07

No sex please, we're right wing - the falling birth rate explained.

i think there’s a growing faction that are thinking ‘good’ women get married and stay at the kitchen sink, or in the guy’s bed, with 18 (white) kids and counting - another white male fantasy land essentially- scary to see it promoted more and more though.

I do think some of the misinformed I see at protests may not fully buy into this approach in practice though - I also take this impression from other sightings in pubs etc of them.

I remain a bit confused at the fearmongering around the possibility some descendants may not be ‘white’, or the future population of the U.K. may not be so - I’m genuinely not sure why this should be a ‘thing’ - we have had a huge mix of different nationalities in the U.K. over the centuries- it will always continue - and it does not matter the colour.

I obviously do get there are people who believe white is superior, but it is just so daft - and we’d be better to be able to just celebrate people not concern ourselves with where they might seem to come from on first glance, as if that matters either really.

SerendipityJane · 04/07/2026 14:57

MsJinks · 04/07/2026 14:49

i think there’s a growing faction that are thinking ‘good’ women get married and stay at the kitchen sink, or in the guy’s bed, with 18 (white) kids and counting - another white male fantasy land essentially- scary to see it promoted more and more though.

I do think some of the misinformed I see at protests may not fully buy into this approach in practice though - I also take this impression from other sightings in pubs etc of them.

I remain a bit confused at the fearmongering around the possibility some descendants may not be ‘white’, or the future population of the U.K. may not be so - I’m genuinely not sure why this should be a ‘thing’ - we have had a huge mix of different nationalities in the U.K. over the centuries- it will always continue - and it does not matter the colour.

I obviously do get there are people who believe white is superior, but it is just so daft - and we’d be better to be able to just celebrate people not concern ourselves with where they might seem to come from on first glance, as if that matters either really.

I found it hilarious that without any sense of what he was saying, the message was loud and clear: if you don't want to get pregnant by a loser, don't have sex

Amazingly, even with their lower intelligence, it seems a lot of women got there well before Young Bob need to tell them.

Piggywaspushed · 04/07/2026 15:19

Extra cat tax!

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SerendipityJane · 04/07/2026 15:28

Piggywaspushed · 04/07/2026 15:19

Extra cat tax!

He can't be POTUS, but I'd have him as PM.

BIWI · 04/07/2026 16:11

TemperanceWest · 04/07/2026 14:28

Burnham did an AMA on Redditt. Badenoch joined Reddit simply so she could plop this. God woman, grow up! You could have at least asked a proper question.

Look at the downvotes though!

SerendipityJane · 04/07/2026 16:30

TemperanceWest · 04/07/2026 14:28

Burnham did an AMA on Redditt. Badenoch joined Reddit simply so she could plop this. God woman, grow up! You could have at least asked a proper question.

Andy Burnham AMA — What Redditors Reported
Key Topics Covered

Specific Questions Called Out By Reddit Redditors’ Overall Reactions Notable Positive Points About Burnham (from Reddit) Communities For Further Discussion Reddit consensus: the
BIWI · 04/07/2026 16:41

What did Burnham reply to Kemi? I couldn't find it.

Spandauer · 04/07/2026 16:44

BIWI · 04/07/2026 16:41

What did Burnham reply to Kemi? I couldn't find it.

"Hi Andy, Kemi here. Whilst you’re answering softball questions on Reddit, I’ve been in Yorkshire answering questions from the press," Badenoch wrote.
"You’re going to be Prime Minister soon so it’s time to start acting like one," Badenoch continued.
"Come out from hiding, face a proper press conference and submit yourself to scrutiny and some tough questions."
In response, Burnham responded: "Fair challenge, Kemi - but don’t forget it’s only two weeks since I faced questions from 74,000 members of the public in Makerfield!"

TemperanceWest · 04/07/2026 16:47

It is good that he didn't resort to personal sniping. I hope he continues in that vein.

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