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Thread 53 Starmer: Insania Aestiva

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DuncinToffee · 30/06/2026 17:44

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BIWI · 03/07/2026 20:56

<cancels the evening's drinking>

DuncinToffee · 03/07/2026 21:16

He is also planning to get Palantir out of the NHS

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cardibach · 03/07/2026 21:46

SerendipityJane · 03/07/2026 21:04

Well Thank fuck for that. I had a real fear his arrogance would make him call one. Though ruling it out doesn’t mean he won’t…

PickAChew · 03/07/2026 21:53

DuncinToffee · 03/07/2026 21:16

He is also planning to get Palantir out of the NHS

That will rattle a few cages but tough.

cardibach · 03/07/2026 22:02

I hope he does. As yet I have no faith in anything he says. It all seems a bit…flexible.

Notonthestairs · 03/07/2026 22:03

PickAChew · 03/07/2026 21:53

That will rattle a few cages but tough.

Thiel and friends (Vance) won’t like that.

cardibach · 03/07/2026 22:09

This is a pretty sympathetic piece from the BBC. If they’d been this thoughtful before we might not be where we are…
Starmer warns Burnham will need to spend as much time on global affairs as he did, in first interview since quitting https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qy2zxjkwvo

Sir Keir Starmer promised to "keep my mouth shut" when his successor takes over

Starmer: Burnham will have to spend as much time on foreign affairs as me

In an untypically candid interview, the outgoing PM tells the BBC it was "really tough" to accept his political career was over.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qy2zxjkwvo

placemats · 03/07/2026 22:55

BIWI · 03/07/2026 15:35

For your delectation:

https://nigelfarage.substack.com/

There's no way he wrote that. Ever. Full stop.

placemats · 03/07/2026 23:00

5128gap · 03/07/2026 18:40

Thank you so much. And I yours, and those of everyone on this thread. So happy to have stumbled across the place where the MNetters who's posts most inspire me and restore my faith in human nature hang out.
I shall be giving myself a stiff neck with all the enthusiastic nodding I'll be doing, and might have to pop back to a Reform thread to give it a rest.😊

Good to see you here 👋

placemats · 03/07/2026 23:03

SerendipityJane · 03/07/2026 21:04

Good. This isn't the time to start gambling with the country and wasting it on elections. Reform certainly are doing that in council elections.

Labour is continuing to be stable. Smooth transition and carrying on.

derxa · 03/07/2026 23:24

England booooooooo!

DuncinToffee · 03/07/2026 23:28

Evening derxa, bit early to get your boos in

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PickAChew · 03/07/2026 23:46

Don't you live in England, @derxa?

TemperanceWest · 03/07/2026 23:55

derxa · 03/07/2026 23:24

England booooooooo!

Did you mean to post on one of the football threads? Perhaps you have you been at the Sheep Dip again and have become confused.

placemats · 04/07/2026 01:49

derxa · 03/07/2026 23:24

England booooooooo!

Baààaaàaaaa. Bless the little lambs

Notonthestairs · 04/07/2026 08:12

TemperanceWest · 03/07/2026 23:55

Did you mean to post on one of the football threads? Perhaps you have you been at the Sheep Dip again and have become confused.

A bit more Facebook than MN surely?

TemperanceWest · 04/07/2026 08:49

Notonthestairs · 04/07/2026 08:12

A bit more Facebook than MN surely?

Maybe!

Very odd thing to post given a fair few of us aren't really into football or aren't English. Or both.

TemperanceWest · 04/07/2026 08:53

Goodwin is such an idiot. I liked the placing of this advert in the article.

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TemperanceWest · 04/07/2026 09:37

This did make me 😁 (Ed McGuinness is a failed Tory candidate I think?).

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DuncinToffee · 04/07/2026 09:46

Every time that question gets asked, Farage must be panicking

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SerendipityJane · 04/07/2026 10:08

It's interesting how the seismic nature of the past 3 weeks has been totally and utterly missed by the media. Or maybe that should be "missed" by the media.

As the dust settles, and reportage turns to history, the fact that someone has gone from citizen to PM in the space of a month - totally and utterly eclipsing anything nearly all other established democracies are capable of delivering[1] will be commented on.

Not only that, the person doing it has no connection to the political existence of the government he will be leading. No only did he have no part in the 2024 administration. He's been out of parliament since 2010. If you wanted to design someone who was capable, yet blessed with the political invulnerability of "not being there", you'd be hard pressed to find a better example. Any other contender would have been tainted with the Mandelson fallout. Not Burnham.

If the press want to throw any mud at Burnham, then it will have to be something he did in Manchester. And the biggest problem the press have here, is they have been peddling a message that Manchester doesn't matter for years. And if they didn't care about it, why should the rest of the country.

This premiership will be fascinating in future PM-ranking podcasts 😀

[1]Also blowing Farage and his "I will be PM in a few years" line into oblivion. You can imagine the conversations can't you ?

May 2026
Shadowy-cabal-of-fascist-backers: "So, Nigel, how is the plan to be PM going ?"
Nigel Farage : "As well as we planned, lads[2]. Come 2029 I'll be there. Just a few more £5,000,000."
SCOFB: "Why can't you do it quicker"
NF: "It's the system. You can't just rock up and be PM you know."
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July 2026
SCOFB: "You know you told us 'you can't just rock up and be PM' ?"
NF: I'm sorry I can't take your call right now. If you leave your name and number I'll get right back to you

[2]You know they will call themselves "lads"

SerendipityJane · 04/07/2026 10:25

Notonthestairs · 04/07/2026 08:11

this made me giggle - mortgage rate flex based on fertility (for British couples only)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/matt-goodwin-reform-mortgages-children-women-taxation-b3007601.html

I wonder where "ex Reform candidate" appears in the listings between "Serving PM" and "@Barry29779" of people whose views we give a shit about ?

Matt Goodwin. Nobodies favourite Ex.

Notonthestairs · 04/07/2026 10:28

SerendipityJane · 04/07/2026 10:25

I wonder where "ex Reform candidate" appears in the listings between "Serving PM" and "@Barry29779" of people whose views we give a shit about ?

Matt Goodwin. Nobodies favourite Ex.

hey, a man's gotta make a living - selling dumb fucking ideas is as good a grift as anything.

It's not like he's going to get a £5 million bung anytime soon.

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