Starmer: An Myghtern yw marow. Re vewo an Myghtern a'n North!

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Link to previous thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5541352-thread-51-starmer-pedo-mellon-a-minno?page=10&reply=153095543

Yes you are right about the continue to stay within the EC however it was a resounding yes!

So one resounding yes to remain and a very dubious no to leave.

Best of three.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_United_Kingdom_European_Communities_membership_referendum

I do wonder of Lowe is getting rather perturbed by the type of folk who claim to supoort him.
I would be, too

They're a bit embarrassing when you're trying to position yourself as a serious politician, rather than a rabble rousing thug.

Lowe might even be cringing at some of them, too.

I bet Our Tommeh isn't happy with Lowe.

So one resounding yes to remain and a very dubious no to leave.

The two can't be compared. Apples and oranges etc.

One was a proper referendum which delivered a decided mandate.

The other was a bargain bin kit, put together not with, but by tools and intended to save David Cameron rather than deliver a mandate. Ultimately it did neither and created one of the bitterest schisms in British political life for generations.

When scum fall out.

I just saw the concession-bashing thread mentioned earlier. It is very, very ugly.

He's just struggling in the same way Farage struggled to hold his earlier incarnations together.
Far right unsurprisingly includes a number of people with deeply unpleasant views and frenetic social media. Handy for getting attention when you are starting out but immediately puts off a lot of voters that you actually need to persuade. Lowe cant expand without ditching the very people propping him up.

So weird. Its a business decision driven by getting people through the doors. Nobody could seriously suggest that the owners of Chatsworth or similar are tofu eating, podcast listening wokesters.

It's proof that if you scratch these neoliberal freemarketeers, you will find a communist underneath. People who are very concerned to tell private businesses how they should run.

Same with Donald "I am ordering the oil companies to lower prices" interfering in the US "free market".

I mean how on earth are Reform going to enforce their evil social agenda without first regulating businesses to the hilt ?

E2A: Also, a lot of hard working families are in the UC scheme. Not really sure trying to demonise them is a great idea.

You lie down with dogs you get fleas, wondering how Lowe will be able to shut the floodgates without alienating the donors or maybe he is rich enough not to care possibly.

It's proof that if you scratch these neoliberal freemarketeers, you will find a communist underneath. People who are very concerned to tell private businesses how they should run

I wish someone would post that on the thread. It would cause some 🤯

Tommeh hasn't got tuppence h'panney to rub together.

Yep, he's crying 😂

They obviously don't understand the history of Chatsworth.

I doubt there is the aggregate level of intelligence to encompass the paradox.

Surely he's funded by all sorts now?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2eymr3xrewo
This is a nice article. I had a similarly inspirational English teacher in 6th Form. Bloody comprehensives, giving bloody aspirations to bloody plebs. Tchuh.

Oh yes, I loved when he called him 'Andrew'.

Tommy is I think doing quite well for himself. He just has sniff a costly lifestyle.
Maybe with Lowe being exposed as secretly a lefty all along he can expect to be signal boosted by people like Musk if they abandon Lowe. And even secure more dosh.
Unfortunately though, I think that Lowe is doing that strategic thing of saying a few non racist things to gain "respectability" and plausible deniability so his supporters can argue "he's not far right that's just a smear. Being against uncontrolled immigration/abuse of girls isn't racist. See how far the Overton window has shifted etc". And he's hoping to do that whilst also saying other stuff to show his old school supporters he still agrees with them. And hope noone puts the two contradictory statements together and sees they don't match.

If you want a laugh , Kwasi Kwarteng is saying that chancellor 'Red Ed' will be a disaster for Britain

🥬

And the DM's massive scandal involving Bridget Phillipson is that her mum bought a council house for £9k in 1990 and then sold it 33 years later for £99k.

IDK which is more shocking @DuncinToffee !!!

I’m appalled, such wickedness! Kwarteng gets the award for staggering lack of self awareness.

My understanding is that Tommeh's funding is very opaque and 'shady' - and when he needs it there's plenty of money made available to him - have read at least a couple of long articles about it and was no wiser having read them - there is a bit of an anti-semitic tone to some of the commentary

He's also not averse to the occ GoFundMe for his legal fees