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RedTagAlan · 10/02/2026 07:24

YankTank · 10/02/2026 06:12

Ms. Maxwell is prepared to speak fully and honestly if granted clemency by President Trump.

She can FUCK OFF. I guess I need to brace myself for her pardoning…it is one of Trump’s signature moves.

Yup. This whole thing is a bit arse from elbow.

Epstein affair may be 'the end of the monarchy', says US congressman | US News | Sky News

Ro Khanna, a Democrat :

"I think this is the most vulnerable the British monarchy has ever been. They ought to ask the King and Queen questions and maybe this will be the end of the monarchy."

"The King has to answer what he knew, what he knew about Andrew, and just stripping Andrew of a title is not enough."

"They need to answer, the King and Queen, I don't understand the British custom (that) someone's asking the Queen a question and the Queen is offended that she's being asked a question? I mean, come on. She wears the same clothes, she eats the same food, she's just a human being, she needs to answer the same questions everyone does."

No offence to US posters, but these Americans are all freaking nuts aren't they :-)

Hey Mr America. It's your case. You have the documents. If you have evidence for anything, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE YOU ASKING THE QUESTIONS.

Goodness me. There are potential criminal investigations going on world wide over this... EXCEPT FOR IN THE USA !

CNN have picked up on this though. An article there said Europe is well ahead of the US on investigating, because EU nations and UK have independent legal systems. Unlike we now see in the USA.

So while the world investigates, the USA considers a pardon for Maxwell.

Epstein affair may be 'the end of the monarchy', says US congressman

Ro Khanna, a member of the committee investigating the scandal, tells Sky News King Charles and Queen Camilla should answer questions about Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor.

https://news.sky.com/story/epstein-affair-may-be-the-end-of-the-monarchy-says-us-congressman-13505487

PickAChew · 10/02/2026 07:35

PerkingFaintly · 10/02/2026 01:25

TL;DR: Maxwell will say Trump is innocent of all wrongdoing if he pardons her.

Manipulators gotta manipulate.

SerendipityJane · 10/02/2026 09:19

pmk

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 10/02/2026 09:21

Thank you for the new thread and excellent title, @Spandauer.

I’m cutting and pasting this from a FB group I follow. I can’t find who to credit as author, maybe the admin of the group “I Fucking Love Australia”, but whoever they may be, they are spot on. I’m sorry it’s so long, but I think it’s worth a read.

"Holy fucking shit, can we talk about this for a second? The President of the United States just called an Olympic freestyle skier a loser. An OLYMPIC ATHLETE. A guy who's about to represent America on the world stage in the freeski halfpipe, who's trained his entire fucking life to compete at the highest level, and Trump's sitting there with his phone like a pissy little bitch calling him a loser because the kid had the audacity to say something critical.

And here's the kicker - Hunter Hess hasn't even fucking competed yet. His event isn't until February 20th. Trump is attacking an American Olympian BEFORE he's had a chance to compete for his country. Just let that sink in for a minute.

And then Bernie Sanders, the 83-year-old democratic socialist senator from Vermont, has to come in and give the President a fucking civics lesson. He literally had to explain to Trump that America is not a monarchy. Think about that. In 2026, a sitting US Senator has to remind the President that Americans don't have to bow down to him.

This is the same Trump who dodged the draft five fucking times because of bone spurs but has the absolute fucking nerve to call an Olympic athlete a loser. Hunter Hess is going to the fucking Olympics to compete in freeski halfpipe for his country. What did Trump do when his country called? He got a doctor's note about his feet and let other people go die in Vietnam while he fucked models and bankrupted casinos.

And here's the thing that really gets me, the absolute batshit insanity of it all. Trump genuinely believes that criticizing him is un-American. He thinks patriotism means kissing his ass. He thinks wearing the flag means shutting your fucking mouth and clapping when he walks in the room. Meanwhile, Bernie's over here defending the actual constitutional right to free speech, which last time I checked, was pretty fucking American.

The founding fathers literally fought a war so they wouldn't have to bow down to a king, and now we've got a president throwing tantrums on social media because an athlete dared to express his conscience. They wrote the First Amendment specifically for this shit. The very first thing they added to the Constitution was "Hey, you can criticize the government and they can't do fuck all about it."

Hunter Hess said he had "mixed emotions" representing the US right now because of what's happening with immigration enforcement and other policies. He said he's representing his friends, his family, the people who came before him, and the values he believes in. That's it. That's what sent Trump into a fucking meltdown.

And you know what? That takes more courage than Trump has ever shown in his entire life. Standing up in front of the world and saying "I love my country, but I don't agree with everything that's happening right now" - that's what patriotism actually looks like. Not blind obedience to whatever authoritarian dickhead happens to be in office.

Hunter Hess is more of a patriot expressing his conscience than Trump will ever be wrapping himself in the flag and demanding loyalty. Because actual patriotism isn't blind obedience. It's having the balls to stand up and say "this isn't right" when you see your country heading in the wrong direction.

Trump doesn't want America. He wants North Korea. He wants people clapping when he enters a room and crying when he leaves. He wants state media telling everyone how strong and brilliant he is. He wants military parades and gold statues and nobody ever saying a fucking word against him. He doesn't want democracy, he wants a dictatorship with his name in gold letters.

And the fact that he's attacking an athlete who hasn't even competed yet? That tells you everything you need to know. He doesn't give a shit about American success at the Olympics. He cares about total submission. He wants every American athlete to get up there and thank him personally, like they're accepting a fucking Grammy.

You know who actually cares about America? The guy who's been training since he was three years old to represent his country at the Olympics. The guy who's good enough to make it to the fucking Olympic Games in freeski halfpipe. The guy who loves his country enough to tell the truth about it even when it's hard.

And thank fuck for people like Bernie Sanders who are still out here reminding everyone what America is actually supposed to be. Not a kingdom. Not a dictatorship. Not a place where you get attacked by the president for having a fucking opinion. A democracy where Olympic athletes can speak their conscience without being labeled traitors by a draft-dodging reality TV star.

Hess isn't the loser here. The loser is the guy who's so fucking insecure that honest reflection from a 27-year-old freeskier sends him into a rage spiral on social media. The loser is the guy who thinks being American means shutting up and obeying. The loser is the guy who attacks people for using the freedoms that make America worth representing in the first place."

Bernie's right. Hess is a proud American. And so is anyone else who has the courage to stand up and say what they believe, even when the most powerful person in the country is throwing a tantrum about it.

That's what America is supposed to be. Not bowing down to anyone. Not kissing the ring. Not pretending everything is perfect when it isn't.

And certainly not being attacked by your own president before you've even had a chance to compete for your country.

That's not patriotism. That's authoritarianism. And Hunter Hess just showed more American values in one honest answer than Trump has shown in his entire fucking life."

SerendipityJane · 10/02/2026 09:24

YankTank · 10/02/2026 06:08

Fucking hell.

Even as that was being posted, there were MNetters on other threads ridiculing people for not wanting to go to the US

Spandauer · 10/02/2026 09:25

I'm sure Maxwell already has individuals all too ready to fund her and facilitate her return to a privileged lifestyle if she is pardoned. But would she be received as anything other than a pariah in most social circles - who would want to be associated with her?She will be should be spat on in the streets.

But given this is currently Trump's USA, she'll probably end up on Dancing With The Stars.

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SerendipityJane · 10/02/2026 10:51

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 10/02/2026 09:21

Thank you for the new thread and excellent title, @Spandauer.

I’m cutting and pasting this from a FB group I follow. I can’t find who to credit as author, maybe the admin of the group “I Fucking Love Australia”, but whoever they may be, they are spot on. I’m sorry it’s so long, but I think it’s worth a read.

"Holy fucking shit, can we talk about this for a second? The President of the United States just called an Olympic freestyle skier a loser. An OLYMPIC ATHLETE. A guy who's about to represent America on the world stage in the freeski halfpipe, who's trained his entire fucking life to compete at the highest level, and Trump's sitting there with his phone like a pissy little bitch calling him a loser because the kid had the audacity to say something critical.

And here's the kicker - Hunter Hess hasn't even fucking competed yet. His event isn't until February 20th. Trump is attacking an American Olympian BEFORE he's had a chance to compete for his country. Just let that sink in for a minute.

And then Bernie Sanders, the 83-year-old democratic socialist senator from Vermont, has to come in and give the President a fucking civics lesson. He literally had to explain to Trump that America is not a monarchy. Think about that. In 2026, a sitting US Senator has to remind the President that Americans don't have to bow down to him.

This is the same Trump who dodged the draft five fucking times because of bone spurs but has the absolute fucking nerve to call an Olympic athlete a loser. Hunter Hess is going to the fucking Olympics to compete in freeski halfpipe for his country. What did Trump do when his country called? He got a doctor's note about his feet and let other people go die in Vietnam while he fucked models and bankrupted casinos.

And here's the thing that really gets me, the absolute batshit insanity of it all. Trump genuinely believes that criticizing him is un-American. He thinks patriotism means kissing his ass. He thinks wearing the flag means shutting your fucking mouth and clapping when he walks in the room. Meanwhile, Bernie's over here defending the actual constitutional right to free speech, which last time I checked, was pretty fucking American.

The founding fathers literally fought a war so they wouldn't have to bow down to a king, and now we've got a president throwing tantrums on social media because an athlete dared to express his conscience. They wrote the First Amendment specifically for this shit. The very first thing they added to the Constitution was "Hey, you can criticize the government and they can't do fuck all about it."

Hunter Hess said he had "mixed emotions" representing the US right now because of what's happening with immigration enforcement and other policies. He said he's representing his friends, his family, the people who came before him, and the values he believes in. That's it. That's what sent Trump into a fucking meltdown.

And you know what? That takes more courage than Trump has ever shown in his entire life. Standing up in front of the world and saying "I love my country, but I don't agree with everything that's happening right now" - that's what patriotism actually looks like. Not blind obedience to whatever authoritarian dickhead happens to be in office.

Hunter Hess is more of a patriot expressing his conscience than Trump will ever be wrapping himself in the flag and demanding loyalty. Because actual patriotism isn't blind obedience. It's having the balls to stand up and say "this isn't right" when you see your country heading in the wrong direction.

Trump doesn't want America. He wants North Korea. He wants people clapping when he enters a room and crying when he leaves. He wants state media telling everyone how strong and brilliant he is. He wants military parades and gold statues and nobody ever saying a fucking word against him. He doesn't want democracy, he wants a dictatorship with his name in gold letters.

And the fact that he's attacking an athlete who hasn't even competed yet? That tells you everything you need to know. He doesn't give a shit about American success at the Olympics. He cares about total submission. He wants every American athlete to get up there and thank him personally, like they're accepting a fucking Grammy.

You know who actually cares about America? The guy who's been training since he was three years old to represent his country at the Olympics. The guy who's good enough to make it to the fucking Olympic Games in freeski halfpipe. The guy who loves his country enough to tell the truth about it even when it's hard.

And thank fuck for people like Bernie Sanders who are still out here reminding everyone what America is actually supposed to be. Not a kingdom. Not a dictatorship. Not a place where you get attacked by the president for having a fucking opinion. A democracy where Olympic athletes can speak their conscience without being labeled traitors by a draft-dodging reality TV star.

Hess isn't the loser here. The loser is the guy who's so fucking insecure that honest reflection from a 27-year-old freeskier sends him into a rage spiral on social media. The loser is the guy who thinks being American means shutting up and obeying. The loser is the guy who attacks people for using the freedoms that make America worth representing in the first place."

Bernie's right. Hess is a proud American. And so is anyone else who has the courage to stand up and say what they believe, even when the most powerful person in the country is throwing a tantrum about it.

That's what America is supposed to be. Not bowing down to anyone. Not kissing the ring. Not pretending everything is perfect when it isn't.

And certainly not being attacked by your own president before you've even had a chance to compete for your country.

That's not patriotism. That's authoritarianism. And Hunter Hess just showed more American values in one honest answer than Trump has shown in his entire fucking life."

Edited

Quite a rant.

But now, what are you going to do ?

Remember, none of what that rant describes was in anyway unforeseen in 2024. This hasn't appeared from nowhere overnight.

I don't care how bad taste it may be. But if the US disappears under a wave of tyranny whilst an armed population just stands by, then every single innocent person who died in the defence of the second amendment was a wasted live. Or, as Trump will call them when told, "losers".

Lalgarh · 10/02/2026 11:05

Thomas Massie is a republican MAGA nut, but he's had access to the unredacted files.

A "Sultan" was sending torture videos for JEs enjoyment

https://nitter.net/RepThomasMassie/status/2020997755695468890#m

Also

https://nitter.net/RepThomasMassie/status/2021059471804596548#m

Efacsen · 10/02/2026 11:39

Lalgarh · 10/02/2026 11:05

Thomas Massie is a republican MAGA nut, but he's had access to the unredacted files.

A "Sultan" was sending torture videos for JEs enjoyment

https://nitter.net/RepThomasMassie/status/2020997755695468890#m

Also

https://nitter.net/RepThomasMassie/status/2021059471804596548#m

Hope that the US lawmakers reveiwing the un-redcated files are being de-briefed/ getting mental health support if needed

SerendipityJane · 10/02/2026 11:49

Efacsen · 10/02/2026 11:39

Hope that the US lawmakers reveiwing the un-redcated files are being de-briefed/ getting mental health support if needed

You mean in almost exactly the same way the victims aren't ?

Igotjelly · 10/02/2026 12:10

Lalgarh · 10/02/2026 12:00

Vermont Representative filmed as she left the viewings

https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3mehxxhohck2z

I'm not sure if this or earlier trump thread is the one where Victoria Derbyshire found an email referring to a 9 year old in the files

She seems somewhere between fury and crying.

I hope that if nothing else it leads to some sort of support for the victims. As a survivor of SA myself I know how important even just finally being believed can be to recovery. Someone finally telling you it wasn’t your fault.

Igotjelly · 10/02/2026 12:15

What a twat Jake Paul is 😂

Name a better trio than Onion, Garlic & Ginger - Trump Thread #155
MO0N · 10/02/2026 12:17

Spandauer · 10/02/2026 09:25

I'm sure Maxwell already has individuals all too ready to fund her and facilitate her return to a privileged lifestyle if she is pardoned. But would she be received as anything other than a pariah in most social circles - who would want to be associated with her?She will be should be spat on in the streets.

But given this is currently Trump's USA, she'll probably end up on Dancing With The Stars.

You may well be right but my gut feeling is that Maxwell is worth more dead than alive.

MO0N · 10/02/2026 12:25

Furthermore Maxwell will have overseen the disposal of other female persons who knew too much, she must know that she could be next.

PerkingFaintly · 10/02/2026 12:33

MO0N · 10/02/2026 12:17

You may well be right but my gut feeling is that Maxwell is worth more dead than alive.

She only has value to him up to the moment she publicly "proves" Trump is innocent, per her promise.

Then she's best disposed of lest she say anything else.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 10/02/2026 12:36

"But now, what are you going to do ?"
In equally bad taste, I suppose I could go and shoot somebody in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue? (No prizes for guessing who.)

MO0N · 10/02/2026 13:10

PerkingFaintly · 10/02/2026 12:33

She only has value to him up to the moment she publicly "proves" Trump is innocent, per her promise.

Then she's best disposed of lest she say anything else.

I agree. It seems very likely to me that it was trump who gave the order for Epstein to be disposed of.
Maybe she has a plan? I can't think what it would be though.

MsJinks · 10/02/2026 13:39

MO0N · 10/02/2026 13:10

I agree. It seems very likely to me that it was trump who gave the order for Epstein to be disposed of.
Maybe she has a plan? I can't think what it would be though.

One of those in crime novels - where the person at risk sends all the info to their solicitor to be opened in case of suspicious death/disappearance? Though that is risky in the circumstances.
I guess someone took over the vacancy Epstein left though - sadly - maybe she’ll have some supporters there.
To be clear I’m not actually hoping there’s a way out for her just considering possibilities a bit lightly I guess - though I am pretty annoyed there is only her in prison.

MO0N · 10/02/2026 13:45

@MsJinks it could be argued that trump has replaced Epstein.

placemats · 10/02/2026 13:47

The victims are relentlessly persecuted on social media with impunity, that's how wealthy men work. Maxwell deserves her sentence. All women to be punished. Though AMW may feel aggrieved at his "punishment" with little care for his family.

DuncinToffee · 10/02/2026 14:08

Vermont US Representative Becca Balint being interviewed by Drop Site News shortly after reviewing more, unreleased Epstein files saying

"They're all a bunch of sick fucks"

https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3mehxxhohck2z

CaveMum · 10/02/2026 14:10

Thanks for the new thread, catching up on all the chaos.

DuncinToffee · 10/02/2026 14:31

Damage limitation 😅

Peter Navarro: "The jobs report comes out tomorrow. We have to revise our expectations down significantly for what a monthly job number should look like ... Wall Street has to adjust for the fact that we're deporting millions of illegals out of the job market."

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mej5t6gura2a

RedTagAlan · 10/02/2026 14:39

DuncinToffee · 10/02/2026 14:31

Damage limitation 😅

Peter Navarro: "The jobs report comes out tomorrow. We have to revise our expectations down significantly for what a monthly job number should look like ... Wall Street has to adjust for the fact that we're deporting millions of illegals out of the job market."

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mej5t6gura2a

Wait.... what !

But on "the other thread", the claim is that everything is great because of deportations ?