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Thread 40 Starmer: Prettig Kerstfeest, Nollaig Shona, Hyvää Joulua, Nadolig Llawen ,圣诞快乐, God Jul, Feliz Navidad, Bouan Noué, Nollaig Chridheil.

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DuncinToffee · 17/12/2025 09:00

Merry Christmas 🎄🎅🎶

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PickAChew · 18/12/2025 12:05

SerendipityJane · 18/12/2025 08:52

They are also having to grapple with the fact that undoing Brexit slowly is very very hard to oppose in a popular sense. In a way, history (after I am dead) may well show that the cliff edge Brexit delivered by Boris was the best way to ensure rejoining happened. Because we can now see people having to oppose each strand of what EU membership was, and find little to object in each.

Also the Boris Brexit rather cur off the oxygen for the future. If the UK had remained in the CU and/or the SM, then it would have provided fuel for continued "we have to leave" political pressure (that may well have saved the Tories).

As we move on from the emotions and just read the logic, it was inevitable that the plan delivered by the party and man without a plan should start to unravel within months of the Tories disappearing.

The only thing Remainers have to do is repeat the mantra "Brexit is done". Only be careful - it really upsets some (as any posters who have persisted in the obsolete "Brexit" forum will know).

Merry Christmas one and all !!!

I like your silver lining.

LlynTegid · 18/12/2025 12:48

DuncinToffee · 18/12/2025 11:57

Not just pupils but their fathers and other relatives can be misogynistic, and many of them voted for a party in 2019 led by the then Prime Minister, whose behaviour towards women is a disgrace.

Misogynistic dads are a bad example to their sons and in a way, to their daughters.

Piggywaspushed · 18/12/2025 13:31

DuncinToffee · 18/12/2025 11:57

Thanks.

Interesting as the article itself has half a sentence from a very long quote which says that!

DuncinToffee · 18/12/2025 16:58

Wow, this from Badenoch (Katie Lam said similar earlier today)

https://bsky.app/profile/zoegrunewald.bsky.social/post/3mabl4nvp5k2h

Dog-whistle and factually incorrect. Ladies, raise your hand if you were sexually assaulted by a boy at school? I’d wager this or a family member is most women’s first experience of sexual violence

Thread 40 Starmer: Prettig Kerstfeest, Nollaig Shona, Hyvää Joulua, Nadolig Llawen ,圣诞快乐, God Jul, Feliz Navidad, Bouan Noué, Nollaig Chridheil.
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cardibach · 18/12/2025 17:00

DuncinToffee · 18/12/2025 16:58

Wow, this from Badenoch (Katie Lam said similar earlier today)

https://bsky.app/profile/zoegrunewald.bsky.social/post/3mabl4nvp5k2h

Dog-whistle and factually incorrect. Ladies, raise your hand if you were sexually assaulted by a boy at school? I’d wager this or a family member is most women’s first experience of sexual violence

Wow.
Apart from anything else, where does she think the children of new immigrants are educated? If she were correct (she isn’t, for avoidance of doubt) educating the young men from those countries would be a good start, no?

DuncinToffee · 18/12/2025 17:01

That is a very good point.

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Piggywaspushed · 18/12/2025 17:13

She wants us to imagine that they are all single men in their 20s.

PandoraSocks · 18/12/2025 17:15

I despair. If Badenoch posted along those lines on MN she would probably be deleted and rightly so.

dontcallmelen · 18/12/2025 17:17

Piggywaspushed · 18/12/2025 17:13

She wants us to imagine that they are all single men in their 20s.

And from forge in shores, she really is such a nasty piece of work I can find absolutely no redeeming features, she spews such toxic vile rhetoric.

Evenstar · 18/12/2025 17:17

Thanks for the new thread, Christmas cat tax

Thread 40 Starmer: Prettig Kerstfeest, Nollaig Shona, Hyvää Joulua, Nadolig Llawen ,圣诞快乐, God Jul, Feliz Navidad, Bouan Noué, Nollaig Chridheil.
PandoraSocks · 18/12/2025 17:19

Ghadah Alnasseri, the co-executive director at Imkaan, a charity that supports women from ethnic minority backgrounds, said Badenoch’s language could contribute to making migrant women less safe. Alnasseri pointed to attacks on migrant women and women of colour, such as an alleged rape in Walsall that police are treating as racially aggravated.

“Her rhetoric is very dangerous,” Alnasseri said, adding that the majority of victims of sexual and domestic abuse know their abuser. “It’s deeply inaccurate, it’s misinformation and it’s spreading racism.

“We know of charities which have had to remove their signs so they are not attacked, where women have to seek help through back doors. This kind of language is really problematic.”

PandoraSocks · 18/12/2025 17:22

dontcallmelen · 18/12/2025 17:17

And from forge in shores, she really is such a nasty piece of work I can find absolutely no redeeming features, she spews such toxic vile rhetoric.

I couldn't agree more. She really is in the sewer now, swimming alongside Farage and the rest of the toxic trash.

countrygirl99 · 18/12/2025 17:38

Belated tax.

As for Badenoch all I can say is the man who assaulted me as a 14 yo was white British, the work colleague who tried to force himself on me was white British and the flasher on the tube was white (didn't speak so no clue where from but none of the white British blokes on the crowded train batted an eyelid). I'm 66 now and the last of those was when I was 19 but all clearly remembered.

Thread 40 Starmer: Prettig Kerstfeest, Nollaig Shona, Hyvää Joulua, Nadolig Llawen ,圣诞快乐, God Jul, Feliz Navidad, Bouan Noué, Nollaig Chridheil.
LittleBowSheep · 18/12/2025 17:47

dontcallmelen · 18/12/2025 17:17

And from forge in shores, she really is such a nasty piece of work I can find absolutely no redeeming features, she spews such toxic vile rhetoric.

Badenoch really is a vile piece of shit. Every time she opens her mouth I find I'm despising her more and more. From reading her latest creation of fiction anyone would think that the Tories were not responsible for the decimation of the police service. Sorry, but this one's really got my back up.

Saucery · 18/12/2025 17:49

Disgusting and incendiary speech.

Piggywaspushed · 18/12/2025 18:06

There doesn't seem to be a thread on this development in focusing on misogyny and violence against women on either feminist board. Interesting.

SerendipityJane · 18/12/2025 18:12

Piggywaspushed · 18/12/2025 18:06

There doesn't seem to be a thread on this development in focusing on misogyny and violence against women on either feminist board. Interesting.

FWR is a land from which few return ...

PickAChew · 18/12/2025 18:20

DuncinToffee · 18/12/2025 16:58

Wow, this from Badenoch (Katie Lam said similar earlier today)

https://bsky.app/profile/zoegrunewald.bsky.social/post/3mabl4nvp5k2h

Dog-whistle and factually incorrect. Ladies, raise your hand if you were sexually assaulted by a boy at school? I’d wager this or a family member is most women’s first experience of sexual violence

WTF?

A look at any local rag will reveal a plethora of white, British male sex offenders and they're just the ones who are successfully prosecuted.

LlynTegid · 18/12/2025 18:25

Piggywaspushed · 18/12/2025 17:13

She wants us to imagine that they are all single men in their 20s.

Kemi Badenoch, London Assembly member at a time when Boris Johnson was cutting police numbers in London and doing nothing to highlight the misogyny of the Metropolitan Police, not all of whom were in their 20s and single.

DuncinToffee · 18/12/2025 18:29

LlynTegid · 18/12/2025 18:25

Kemi Badenoch, London Assembly member at a time when Boris Johnson was cutting police numbers in London and doing nothing to highlight the misogyny of the Metropolitan Police, not all of whom were in their 20s and single.

She also was Minister for Women and Equalities

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DuncinToffee · 18/12/2025 19:02

You woud think VAWG is a subject that goes beyond political point scoring

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placemats · 18/12/2025 19:42

Saucery · 18/12/2025 17:49

Disgusting and incendiary speech.

It most certainly is. VAWG starts young when it comes to learned behaviour in males. Regardless of their so called 'cultural background'.

placemats · 18/12/2025 19:44

SerendipityJane · 18/12/2025 18:12

FWR is a land from which few return ...

I never venture there. It's toxic land waste.

PickAChew · 18/12/2025 19:49

I just showed the Kemi quote to DH and got a BWATM response. He got a brief lecture.

Piggywaspushed · 18/12/2025 19:57

Que?

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