War (crimes) and Peace (prizes) - Trump Thread #151

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Don Snoreleone trying to stay awake long enough to bring all his racist dreams to fruition. So when can we bring about his personal "civilisational erasure”?

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5436537-cobwebs-in-congress-bigly-ballrooms-tariff-tantrums-dementia-denials-trump-thread-150

I honestly don't have the strength to read much about the files. It was increasingly obvious that if there were any really incriminating details about 🍊💩 then those bits would never see the light of day once the administration got its hands on them.

And of course, the fact that they didn't release all of them is telling. And they won't be "punished" for ignoring the law either.

I am squeamish, so I haven’t read much about the Epstein files, nor had a glimpse of any of the photos. In all this, is there NOTHING implicating Trump, though definitely stuff implicating Clinton? (If someone who has done the hard work of reading and looking at the files wouldn’t mind replying?)

From what I've seen and read, it appears Trump's name is held back. Clinton is seen swimming with Maxwell and relaxing in a hot tub. There are no incriminating pictures of Clinton as such.
Unlike our favourite Royal with a big grin on his face reclining horizontally on girls laps in Sandringham.

I have only read the live blogs and the bluesky link lalgarh shared but yes Clinton and the guy formerly known as prince feature

They worked very hard to cover up for someone not guilty

Here's some positive news which we all need today.

https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/the-americans-who-stood-up-for-immigrants-in-2025?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Thank you, @logicisall. I’m still certain that Trump could get away with murdering a political opponent on Fifth Avenue in broad daylight, but it’s good to know that there are still some communities with ethics out there.
Thank you, @BustingBaoBun and @DuncinToffee, for the input about the Epstein files. So there is incriminating stuff about Trump in there, but it has carefully been being redacted all these months, is that the idea?

Redacted or not yet released.

There are hints like this

https://bsky.app/profile/sethabramson.bsky.social/post/3maf6upksak2o
November 8, 2004 phone message to Epstein saying a redacted caller "had a female for him" arrived the same week Donald Trump is known to have called Epstein multiple times while trying to convince his friend to back off bidding for a FL property.

The idea behind the carefully curated release is to change the narrative. So now we get photos of celebs/and Clinton, who are presumably not involved in the sex trafficking activities around Epstein. By the time incriminating photos/evidence of Trump or Republicans are released, people will have become accustomed to the innocent narrative - yes X,Y,Z's in a photo but they're innocent.

That will be EXACTLY what the DoJ/Trump's admin want people to keep on thinking when believable evidence against Trump, lands.

The complete absence of Trump's name is in of itself suspicious since it is not disputed that they knew each other. It's the Dog That Didnt Bark

I'd read that as "JE"; I have seen an E done like that for Epstein somewhere in the unredacted bits of scrapbook.

The White House has been caught.

The administration inserted a photo of Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Diana Ross into the Epstein files and falsely implied it showed them with victims.

In reality, it’s a publicly available fundraiser photo featuring Jackson and Ross’s own children.

https://bsky.app/profile/meidastouch.com/post/3mag7myutmc2d

Desperately trying to be fair, it is possible Epstein kept a copy of this publicity pic that had been sent to him by someone.

No, I don't really believe that either; I just think it's a just-possible let-out for Trump's gang of criminals.

James Ball first reflections in the iPaper

https://inews.co.uk/news/epstein-files-close-case-trump-more-answer-4121372

https://archive.ph/u4sY5

At least 16 files from the Epstein release disappeared from DOJ's webpage, including a photo of Trump, with no explanation.

https://apnews.com/article/release-epstein-files-justice-department-trump-9290fcaad1cb6fcb1cbc1befabc01994?link_source=ta_bluesky_link&taid=6947157a12b0720001eb74da&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+New+Content+(Feed)&utm_medium=social&utm_source=bluesky

Round of applause for Cher and her response to Press Secretary Barbie’s comments about her being irrelevant!

Darn it, the picture didn’t attach! Trying again.

Sky are mentioning that one of the girls interviewed/ listed as trafficked was described in papers as having grown up in England.

There were also alleged British victims on board his plane

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4709kylkxo

UK met police have already said they won't investigate the claim Andrew ex prince asked his security detail to find dirt on his accuser Virginia Guiffre.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/virginia-giuffre-andrew-mountbattenwindsor-met-jeffrey-epstein-metropolitan-police-b2883953.html

They're not seriously going to leave these allegations unexplored are they?

They'll release some stuff on Christmas Eve/Day. Then some more 2 hours before Trump mounts an illegal, costly 3 day war.

Maybe on Venezuela but probably a smaller country/region that's on no ones radar atm.

I haven't the patience or the emotional energy to read or watch this, from the Atlantic, but your mileages may vary.
https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/2025/12/bonus-episode-reacting-to-the-epstein-files-release/685373/?gift=e2u7q4bY0aDA8U4mEoqTWRk3q6CP71Q1d28D0_ZXwJ0

BBC reporting that a number of files that were in the original release, including pictures of Trump, are mysteriously no longer showing up.

Go Cher !

Depends. Was anyone misgendered ?

I think I know what you’re talking about, but in the past few days, I’ve seen exactly the same responses to PS Barbie supposedly by Barbra Streisand and Elton John (I think it was), amongst other ageing stars, so I am beginning to think it must be a hoax.

Although to😆 be fair, Cher and Elton have had a lot of wigs in their time

Ah that’s a shame. I really want to see someone give Barbie what for. Not that she’d probably even notice.