Miriam Morgolyes on Graham Norton

[PuppyMonkey]

Anecdote about wanking off three men in a random wood in Edinburgh or something. Everyone laughed hysterically.

Is it just me or have TV chat shows gone really downhill?

She's clever, witty, funny, talented, famous and successful. And not spending her weekend making unkind remarks about other women's looks on MN

Well TBF, I’m literally the one that decided to go online and start a thread about her on here.

Maybe her racist comments- that could be a small clue

I think James Corden is a prick too, to even that out for you.

Now, I must go and weep in the corner, oh, my miserable, bitter existence.

She makes plenty of unkind comments about others - have you not seen her in interviews?

You’re really over thinking this. There’s no envy (of Miriam, really??). One doesn’t need to be unhappy to criticise a celebrity and this is a forum. Are people allowed to slag off celebrities on a Thursday?

Are you a friend as you are taking this thread very personally?

Criticising is one thing... but 'vile', 'vulgur' etc - it's really quite extreme!

The Graham Norton show isn't a live programme and as a PP who was in the audience has alluded to, unfortunately this is an editorial decision by GN and his team. He's an intelligent and talented man, but he's clearly decided this is what generates clicks. If on top of everything else there was an element of coercion in the anecdote, it simply shouldn't have been broadcast and he bears responsibility. I won't watch now btw, as all the fake chuckling is going to sound faintly sinister now - and that's not entertainment!
Instead I'll be listening to the Bill Nighy podcast :)

I have seen her in interviews, yes.

There’s nothing that makes me happier than slagging off celebrities tbh.

I mean, a bit silly to imply I was saying people aren't allowed to slag off celebrities. Of course they are.

Sadly I'm not a friend of MM's 😀

I agree with most of this, but not that people who swear have a limited vocabulary. That’s just not true often enough to be useful. As Billy Connolly said, “I know thousands of words but I still prefer fuck”.
It’s choosing your audience and circumstance though. She doesn’t.

hehe! me too.

Self esteem issues?! Miriam Margolyes?! Long live women who don't care about being respectable I say. We need more of it.

Dare I say it, part of appreciating someone's humour is seeing the nuance - someone using vulgar language is not just someone using vulgar language. There are a million different ways of doing it.

Another startling thing is that many of the guests are older, something you hardly ever see in these youth obsessed times.

What you really mean is long live women with no manners or regard for other people. Does that go for men too or are only women allowed to be gross?

I usually find her funny but that story was pretty low bar. I didn’t understand why man number one was in a tree either.

But why does she choose this way of displaying her intelligence? Is she trying to make herself more relatable? Are we not able to relate to a clever older woman these days so they have to play the fool?

Can happy people discuss

1. The message MM may be giving young women by her assertion that she ‘couldn’t really say no’
2. Whether it’s a sign of misogyny that MM can’t just be interviewed in relation to her obvious talents as an actor
3. Whether 2 has led MM to develop a persona to keep her in the public eye, particularly given that she is neither young nor beautiful
4. Whether similar stories from a man would be acceptable

MM makes me feel a bit queasy. She’s very coarse and very keen on herself, don’t like at all, definitely couldn’t tolerate her on a chat show. GH seems to have a prurience that I also recoil from, don’t like at all. Bring back Parkinson! ( not literally, obv..)

Why would anyone be jealous of Miriam Margolyes?

She's like your foul mouthed old aunt with all her faculties who lands on you every Christmas and spends the time swearing and farting, and generally getting on everyone's tits. It doesn't become wittier as someone gets older. The shock factor of MM is becoming predictably boring.

Love graham norton show. Love the mix of guests he has. I do like MM. however, it felt like she was very rude to the male guest and trying to make it all about her and talking over people. Don’t mind her at all. But was a bit uncomfortable last night just due to her rudeness.

Yes, the 'dirty old woman' thing is wearing very thin. Has been for at least a decade now. Not only was that 'story' disgusting, it's not remotely funny either.

On an entirely more pleasant note, does almost 50 year old Alexander Skarsgard have a picture in his attic? What a ridiculously beautiful man. Absolutely gentleman too. Sigh...