Labour isn't working - Thread 19

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

We are bracing for the budget 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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I don’t think they had a choice with the income tax - not with the employment data. Whilst increasing benefits. They would’ve been out within the year. The last budget cause so much damage to the jobs market. This is now categorically proven.

Linking threads is not permitted by MN, I believe.

Sorry.

It's bad form to link other threads, so we can't do that.

MN does allowed 'themed' threads of all sorts, so let's try not to derail this one.

Morning team & happy Friday!

So, back to the thread…

What is against talk guidelines is deliberately going onto themed threads and causing a nuisance by attempting to obstruct and derail, particularly with a spamming style.

Agreed - I think the back benches probably got to them, following their elastic definition of the ‘working’ and ‘non working’ and ‘working but non working’ etc.

I’m just about to get ready for my non-job today. Storm Claudia will add extra enjoyment to Yr 9 last lesson. Loving not working!

Y9 on a Friday. Last period. You are in my thoughts.

Here you all are, I thought we'd all gone very quiet. Morning.

@NoWordForFluffy

But I did ask for clarification from Mumsnet, as my intention isn’t to spam or derail. I am interested in the thread and there are intelligent interesting discussions happening here.
When I first joined - my primary concern with a different government is my son’s EHCP, and I don’t think a different government will be the solution. Exclusion rates are at an all time high and I don’t think we should be segregating children off any more than we are.

This thread reflects the UK’s current political climate.

It also worries me when I see the Chinese takeaway in York. With a different government, will behaviour like that become more prevalent and ‘acceptable’.

They haven’t found £40bn odd so no idea what they’re doing.

I think 'no idea what they're doing' is precisely what's going on! They're clueless, as they're hamstrung by the backbench which won't let them cut spending.

Lord, mine too.

I missed all the fun last night Dammit. It sounds like it was a ride.

Re themed threads. That people set up to discuss things they are interested in. If MN decides to ban those then where will I be without all the Christmas threads at this time of year? 😩

It is, however, VERY bad form to come onto a thread where people are discussing things rationally and intelligently and to tick them off for [insert stupid reason de jour].

Bloody rude actually.

Last night. 🤣🤣

I reckon someone needs a fry up today. 🍷

You have sought clarification from MN, because you have criticised this thread as an ‘echo chamber’. And now you seek to post on here - you can see the hypocrisy, I hope.

Would you therefore be able to desist, pending clarification from MN, please?

Allow the thread to continue with its purpose and unity, please.

100%

And/or the OBR kiboshed Reeves (let’s face it, she is simply an OBR puppet).

Either way, it’s hard to see the markets reacting positively.

Agree. It’s so damaging. This constant spin and cluelessness.

They’re wrecking people.

They could have avoided quite such a strong impression of cluelessness by not running scared of a budget and postponing it, and by not indulging in endless leaks about intentions. Virtually everything written about this budget, and the damage caused by anticipation of potential changes, has been generated by Reeves’s pitch rolling.

Being misguided is one thing. Being misguided, misleading and indecisive is another.

It’s so draining - I can’t get excited about rumours of no rise in income tax, it simply means they’re going to target a narrower tax base more intensively….two more weeks...

After having rushed too fast into big defining disasters such as winter fuel and the benefits cuts that weren’t, we now have a top two that can’t execute…

Parliament debate digital ID. Will be interesting on the 8th Dec. Gaslighting the plebs no doubt. Hopefully there will be some sane voices. But still Starmer and his poisonous ilk have decided we shall have digital ID.

Hopefully everyone will desist and make it impossible to administer.

Lowering tax thresholds is an increase in income tax. Is it to avoid that working people nonsense?

That’s not going to fly

Whatever they do non workers will pay much more, and full on benefits claimants will get a good rise.