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Whyandwhenandwho · 02/11/2025 09:36

Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

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TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 10:47

My personal experience is that some Muslims do not like us and do not want to intergrate. My son made friends with Muslim boy in S1. He wanted go out to an activity.His father would not allow it, he had to be at mosque. The boy had never seen a movie...not allowed. This is how home born Muslims are being radicalised.

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 10:47

i feel ashamed of this country. How vile is our society when the first thing the police need to clarify is the skin colour and nationality of the attackers.

GentleSheep · 02/11/2025 10:47

Police conference is denying it was terrorism and is pushing that the suspects were British nationals.

localnotail · 02/11/2025 10:47

Whyandwhenandwho · 02/11/2025 10:46

It would be helpful if the government can start quoting some real facts - but they never do and never will snd treat the public like idiots . This doesn't happen in countries like NZ. We need to know X knife crime, of which Y is linked to immigration, Z to gangs etc. So we know the true extent ' we might find that it's a really small proportion but being blown up by media ! I'm not sure this will be the case but share the truth and act accordingly - police presence is a start for deterring

What doesn't happen in NZ? NZ has quite high level of crime for such a small country

Nothingbutstress · 02/11/2025 10:47

localnotail · 02/11/2025 10:41

Terrorist attaches - yes, because they were prominent. But also - mentally ill people released when they shouldn't have been released due to no funding; and also - countless knife attacks by British people of all colours which are not even talked about in press much. I would say the majority of knife crime is carried out by young British born males...Curbing immigration would not cure that.

Yeah just a lot of those knife attacks are between people who know each other (rival gangs etc) or where an altercation has occurred. These targeted mass stabbings and bombings like Manchester are a separate issue.

McSpoot · 02/11/2025 10:48

Whyandwhenandwho · 02/11/2025 10:33

I can guess - and when it becomes clear that there is an immigration angle all hell will break loose 😣. I think this will be a defining moment for the police and the government but I fear they are ill equipped to take a strong stance. The other worrying thing is alp this plays right into Reform agenda

And it becomes clear that there isn’t an immigration angle…

jasflowers · 02/11/2025 10:48

GentleSheep · 02/11/2025 10:47

Police conference is denying it was terrorism and is pushing that the suspects were British nationals.

Err its not, they are... not pushing anything... only an idiot thinks that.

3peepsand4paws · 02/11/2025 10:48

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 10:47

My personal experience is that some Muslims do not like us and do not want to intergrate. My son made friends with Muslim boy in S1. He wanted go out to an activity.His father would not allow it, he had to be at mosque. The boy had never seen a movie...not allowed. This is how home born Muslims are being radicalised.

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You might like to start your own thread about this. The suspects are British born men with Caribbean heritage. Not muslims.

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/11/2025 10:48

What WILL he do? I have no idea, I guess we’ll find out.
What SHOULD he do? He needs to look at policing levels across the country. Get “Bobbies” back out on the streets. Visible. I don’t think I’ve seen a police officer on the street since the Tories cut the service to the bone.

Sequinsoneverythingplease · 02/11/2025 10:49

PrincessOfPreschool · 02/11/2025 09:59

There was a stabbing down the road from me a couple of days ago, I think resulting in death. It's received no media attention probably because it wasn't an immigrant or under 18 year old. It happens all the time, it's just a few cases which get all the attention and wind everyone up.

A few cases of ten random people being stabbed by someone marauding down a train with a big knife?

This kind of false equivalence and attempts to play down are shameful.

localnotail · 02/11/2025 10:49

Nothingbutstress · 02/11/2025 10:47

Yeah just a lot of those knife attacks are between people who know each other (rival gangs etc) or where an altercation has occurred. These targeted mass stabbings and bombings like Manchester are a separate issue.

Completely agree.

But dont minimise knife crime, its not only between gangs. There is a lot of knife crime in/ near schools, its awful.

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 10:49

3peepsand4paws · 02/11/2025 10:48

You might like to start your own thread about this. The suspects are British born men with Caribbean heritage. Not muslims.

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Oh thats ok then

PreciousTatas · 02/11/2025 10:50

Flyingintotheunknown · 02/11/2025 10:29

No people on the left will continue denying it and claim there isn’t a problem and call everybody racists and dismiss and gaslight everyone like they have been doing for years.

The closest thing we have to seeing the future is history.

After the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran the leftists supported Islam, right up until the point they were turned on and either beheaded or imprisoned.

History says that waiting for the extreme left to realise they are suicidal is wasted time.

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 10:50

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 10:49

Oh thats ok then

This surely had to be a troll post?

localnotail · 02/11/2025 10:50

I think police presence needs to massively increase with stop and search allowed based on police instinct/ knowledge, not on some quotas.

Would also say metal detectors at train stations but its probably unrealistic.

3peepsand4paws · 02/11/2025 10:51

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 10:49

Oh thats ok then

Strange you read 'that's ok then' into this, quite disturbing actually.

However, it's silly to be banging on about muslims... this incident is not terror related and has nothing to do with muslims.

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 10:51

Sequinsoneverythingplease · 02/11/2025 10:49

A few cases of ten random people being stabbed by someone marauding down a train with a big knife?

This kind of false equivalence and attempts to play down are shameful.

Agree

GentleSheep · 02/11/2025 10:51

3peepsand4paws · 02/11/2025 10:48

You might like to start your own thread about this. The suspects are British born men with Caribbean heritage. Not muslims.

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How do you know which religion they are? Or aren't? Nothing was said.

elprup · 02/11/2025 10:51

It sounds like it wasn’t terror-related. So what on earth could the motive be to randomly attack strangers on a train?

Nothingbutstress · 02/11/2025 10:52

Police have said the attackers are black British. No mention yet of a particular ideology. If it was one attacker I would look at mental health issues, there are higher levels of extreme mental issues among certain groups. But two attackers surely seems like an organized terror attack

Ihatetomatoes · 02/11/2025 10:52

3peepsand4paws · 02/11/2025 10:46

NOT terrorism related.
British born, Caribbean background.

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Any religion stated? Any motive stated?

Onmytod24 · 02/11/2025 10:52

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 10:47

My personal experience is that some Muslims do not like us and do not want to intergrate. My son made friends with Muslim boy in S1. He wanted go out to an activity.His father would not allow it, he had to be at mosque. The boy had never seen a movie...not allowed. This is how home born Muslims are being radicalised.

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This post is typical of the narrow thinking that certain politicians are just loving what happened to the British fair minded thinking we were so proud of? you take one child with a strict father and you extrapolate it across the entire Muslim population. what a joke

3peepsand4paws · 02/11/2025 10:52

GentleSheep · 02/11/2025 10:51

How do you know which religion they are? Or aren't? Nothing was said.

Cultural awareness?

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 10:52

elprup · 02/11/2025 10:51

It sounds like it wasn’t terror-related. So what on earth could the motive be to randomly attack strangers on a train?

It certainly stokes terror

jasflowers · 02/11/2025 10:52

localnotail · 02/11/2025 10:50

I think police presence needs to massively increase with stop and search allowed based on police instinct/ knowledge, not on some quotas.

Would also say metal detectors at train stations but its probably unrealistic.

We don't want higher taxes, see what has happened to Labour when there is the merest suggestion of this.

We want world class services but lower & lower taxes.

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