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Whyandwhenandwho · 02/11/2025 09:36

Stabbing turns out to be terror related or in a similar vein to incident to recent incidents that were related to immigration ? We don't know the identities yet of the perpetrators. But the fact the Home Secretary is brought in to comment in tabloids and the discussion on LK on BBC today makes me worried its a possibility. The poor people on the train - I cannot even imagine .. ..Starmer needs to tackle knife crime as its rife. What is the answer ? When is there a tipping point ? I don't know but something must be done - I've never paid as much attention other than feeling so terribly sorry for any victims and families. Now I'm starting to get angry when I see anything like this

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Gloriia · 02/11/2025 10:59

PreciousTatas · 02/11/2025 10:55

The nationality of Lee Rigby's attackers was black British.

I haven't seen any information about the attackers religion. Have you?

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Yes it is staggering the amount of 'they're British! eat your words' comments that we are seeing.

We don't know their motivation, I presume they'll be going no comment so until searches of their homes and social media are done we've no jdea what their ideology is.

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 10:59

elprup · 02/11/2025 10:55

Don’t gangs generally target other people in gangs (with innocent people sometimes getting caught in the crossfire)? I’ve never heard of an incident where random strangers have been targeted like this by a gang.

Yes they do. They feeding us a load of fibs

landlordhell · 02/11/2025 10:59

They caused terror on that train therefore it’s an act of terror.

SlothMama14 · 02/11/2025 10:59

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 10:57

What, why would county lines result in innocent train passengers being attacked en masse?

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From one eye witness report I've watched, other passengers were injured helping those who were stabbed first. It's not hard to see how innocents could get caught up in it.

childofthe607080s · 02/11/2025 11:00

Boohoo76 · 02/11/2025 10:59

I have Muslim friends…BUT I have only been told that women shouldn’t be educated by a Muslim man and I have only been told that white girls are slags by a Muslim man. Don’t pretend there isn’t a problem amongst some groups of Muslims.

There are problems amongst some groups of rich white men also

localnotail · 02/11/2025 11:00

Boohoo76 · 02/11/2025 10:59

I have Muslim friends…BUT I have only been told that women shouldn’t be educated by a Muslim man and I have only been told that white girls are slags by a Muslim man. Don’t pretend there isn’t a problem amongst some groups of Muslims.

Like I said before - one thing is saying crap like this, another is doing stuff.

GentleSheep · 02/11/2025 11:00

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 10:58

I think having sheep in your username is quite apt.

No decent answer, just an ad hominem. If you don't agree, give me reasons.

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 11:00

SlothMama14 · 02/11/2025 10:59

From one eye witness report I've watched, other passengers were injured helping those who were stabbed first. It's not hard to see how innocents could get caught up in it.

I wouldn’t spread your conclusion, it could be misinformation.

PastaAllaNorma · 02/11/2025 11:00

Boohoo76 · 02/11/2025 10:59

I have Muslim friends…BUT I have only been told that women shouldn’t be educated by a Muslim man and I have only been told that white girls are slags by a Muslim man. Don’t pretend there isn’t a problem amongst some groups of Muslims.

What the heck do some Muslim men's misogyny have to do with a massive stabbing by two Black British men in their 30s?

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 02/11/2025 11:01

The truth will come out eventually. It always does.

SlothMama14 · 02/11/2025 11:01

landlordhell · 02/11/2025 10:59

They caused terror on that train therefore it’s an act of terror.

You could say that of any situation where someone pulls a knife. Would it still be a terror attack if they were two white men?

Makeitstop2025 · 02/11/2025 11:01

Ihatetomatoes · 02/11/2025 10:54

What was their shared motivation?

Maybe they were both just violent twats?

MyNimbleBrickCritic · 02/11/2025 11:01

3peepsand4paws · 02/11/2025 10:55

Oooohhhhhhh, you seem like quite the expert now. Did lovely little chatgot help you write this🤓😁😂?

TBF, I'm not speculating on the motives of the perpetrators but you only need a basic understanding of history to know that being black does not exclude one from being Muslim.

Many African nations are Islamic.

And have you heard of the Nation of Islam? The Islamic and Black Nationalist movement that had it's genesis in the US a hundred years ago?

Have you heard of Malcolm X?

elprup · 02/11/2025 11:01

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 10:56

I don’t know. But the police have said they do not believe it is terror related. Why is that not enough for some people?

Because I just can’t fathom what the motive would be. Unless it was a psychotic episode, but other posters have said the fact there were two people suggests that is less likely. It just doesn’t make sense.

BluebellShmoobell · 02/11/2025 11:01

Boohoo76 · 02/11/2025 10:59

I have Muslim friends…BUT I have only been told that women shouldn’t be educated by a Muslim man and I have only been told that white girls are slags by a Muslim man. Don’t pretend there isn’t a problem amongst some groups of Muslims.

I think people have to wake up to culture and stop blaming everything on the melanin in your skin, not all cultures are the same. This ridiculous belief that men from cultures where women and gay people are of no value do not leave their views at the border and suddenly believe in equal rights.

landlordhell · 02/11/2025 11:01

PastaAllaNorma · 02/11/2025 11:00

What the heck do some Muslim men's misogyny have to do with a massive stabbing by two Black British men in their 30s?

Two black men in their 30s can be Muslim. Not saying they are but the faith is not limited to Asians.

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 11:01

PastaAllaNorma · 02/11/2025 11:00

What the heck do some Muslim men's misogyny have to do with a massive stabbing by two Black British men in their 30s?

How does anyone know their religion, do you?

winterbluess · 02/11/2025 11:01

PreciousTatas · 02/11/2025 10:58

Exactly.

I think we all remember the 'Welsh choirboy'. The repeated delaying of the statement also hasn't helped matters.

The UK public are waking up, and are listening to what isn't being said.

No one really believes two men with knives attacked random strangers in and it wasn't a terror attack do they?

Exactly

SlothMama14 · 02/11/2025 11:02

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 11:00

I wouldn’t spread your conclusion, it could be misinformation.

How is an eye witness account of someone who was on the train that's been broadcast on every TV station misinformation?

TheRedOrca · 02/11/2025 11:02

3peepsand4paws · 02/11/2025 10:55

Oooohhhhhhh, you seem like quite the expert now. Did lovely little chatgot help you write this🤓😁😂?

No need to be bitchy...its a genuine concern

PreciousTatas · 02/11/2025 11:02

EasternStandard · 02/11/2025 10:57

What, why would county lines result in innocent train passengers being attacked en masse?

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Yep.

Where are all these gangs attacking complete strangers en masse for no reason? Criminal gangs attack rival members, and sometimes innocent people are caught up.

They don't commit mass stabbings on a train car of complete strangers.

TruckDiver · 02/11/2025 11:02

WeCouldBeNiceToEachOther · 02/11/2025 10:56

I don’t know. But the police have said they do not believe it is terror related. Why is that not enough for some people?

Because those people are fucking awful racists who NEED the facts to fit their prejudice.

Whyandwhenandwho · 02/11/2025 11:02

PastaAllaNorma · 02/11/2025 10:46

Uninformed speculation about who and why when there's a dearth of verified facts just stokes panic.

Why can't we all just hold fire until we know what we're talking about. A lurch to the populist right only brings more division.

But current speculation is not far off the truth I am sure and never usually is - people can have opinions . If proven wrong- then that's a relief. There us heightened fear everywhere due to recent events and that doesn't help people sit back and wait before they wonder

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jlooy · 02/11/2025 11:02

deliberately not releasing names so the press can’t find out who they are and dig into their backgrounds, social media etc. Echoes of Southport.

localnotail · 02/11/2025 11:02

Its horrible but I can imagine how these men could have been pissed/ drugged up and maybe there was an argument etc. Who knows. Remember that nutter who killed two sisters in a park because he made a "deal with a demon"?

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