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Thread 31 Starmer - September Rain

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DuncinToffee · 01/09/2025 12:08

Pull up a chair for some friendly chit chat about politics and beyond

Taxes optional but greatly appreciated.

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5399546-thread-30-starmer-magic-roundabouts?page=40&reply=146834602

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Piggywaspushed · 04/09/2025 10:41

SerendipityJane · 04/09/2025 10:20

Not on the BBC

And that is such brilliant news, too, especially the last bit which contains the highest risk group.

SerendipityJane · 04/09/2025 10:42

Piggywaspushed · 04/09/2025 10:41

And that is such brilliant news, too, especially the last bit which contains the highest risk group.

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Good thing MN and the BBC aren't my only news sources then.

PandoraSocks · 04/09/2025 10:47

DuncinToffee · 04/09/2025 10:40

I disagree Pandora, yes Labour has to hold itself to much higher standards (although those standards should be that high across all political parties, especially since Johnson) but Rayner has to hold herself to impossible high standards.

Misogyny and snobbism

As for the other thread, I don't give a shiny fuck about them

I do agree that it is driven by misogyny and snobbism.

PandoraSocks · 04/09/2025 10:56

Graffiti calling Angela Rayner a “tax evader” has appeared at her Hove flat, PA Media reports. PA says:

The word “bitch” along with a much larger sign saying “tax evader!” have been pictured on a white wall on the outside of the property.

Across the road, “Tax evader Rayner” and “Rayner tax avoidance” have been graffitied on construction chipboard. a “tax evader” has appeared at her Hove flat, PA Media reports. PA says:

The word “bitch” along with a much larger sign saying “tax evader!” have been pictured on a white wall on the outside of the property.

Across the road, “Tax evader Rayner” and “Rayner tax avoidance” have been graffitied on construction chipboard.

I have no words.

BIossomtoes · 04/09/2025 11:14

Stupid move if ever I saw one. I hope whoever did that is convicted and sentenced to a substantial period of graffiti cleaning.

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DuncinToffee · 04/09/2025 11:17

That's what happens when the media starts a witch hunt and people run with it.

Hope those anti Rayner posters are proud of themselves.

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Absentmindedsmile · 04/09/2025 11:20

PandoraSocks · 04/09/2025 10:34

BBC reports she had advice from an experienced conveyancer and two experts in trust laws.

@DuncinToffee but the sad fact is that Rayner and Labour as a whole can't afford to make the sort of mistakes or "errors of judgement" that the Tories did and got away with.

Just look at what the we hate Labour thread is saying about Rayner(and us, btw. We are all awful, apparently) and the Rayner must go thread. It is absolutely vicious.

Labour has to hold itself to much higher standards. Any prominent Labour politician needs to check every financial transaction from every angle. Unfair, but that is the way it is.

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‘Labour has to hold itself to much higher standards. Any prominent Labour politician needs to check every financial transaction from every angle. Unfair, but that is the way it is.’

You’ve got it in one @PandoraSocks . The Labour Party held themselves up as paragons of virtue / non sleaze / no corruption/ no lies party. Vs the ‘orrible Tory party ‘SCUM’ (I quote AR’).

Sadly for them they’re not doing that. Time and time again.

Although I don’t like Labour these days, and I do love the we don’t like Labour thread very much, I’m sad that Labour have fallen so dramatically below the expectations of people like my siblings and parents. They’re so disillusioned and disappointed in Labour.

I did tell them..

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DuncinToffee · 04/09/2025 11:21

BestIsWest · 04/09/2025 10:26

Completely agree with that @DuncinToffee. And I’m not buying it.

I did buy into it with being disappointed with her.

Now, I am just angry on her behalf (in case nobody noticed that )

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Lalgarh · 04/09/2025 11:23

PandoraSocks · 04/09/2025 10:56

Graffiti calling Angela Rayner a “tax evader” has appeared at her Hove flat, PA Media reports. PA says:

The word “bitch” along with a much larger sign saying “tax evader!” have been pictured on a white wall on the outside of the property.

Across the road, “Tax evader Rayner” and “Rayner tax avoidance” have been graffitied on construction chipboard. a “tax evader” has appeared at her Hove flat, PA Media reports. PA says:

The word “bitch” along with a much larger sign saying “tax evader!” have been pictured on a white wall on the outside of the property.

Across the road, “Tax evader Rayner” and “Rayner tax avoidance” have been graffitied on construction chipboard.

I have no words.

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"tax evader Rayner" sounds like something Tory party hq are trying to make fly. If it was yer ordinary VOLK who isn't currently seething outside and asylum seeker hotel, they'd surely write "tax cheat", or "crook"

Where was jenrick last night

Notonthestairs · 04/09/2025 11:23

The same people that were outraged at the Greenpeace demonstration at Sunak's constituency home will be cheering those that set fire to Starmers home and graffiting Rayners.

Personally I think all MPs homes should be off limits.

Absentmindedsmile · 04/09/2025 11:24

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pointythings · 04/09/2025 11:27

Nobody should be harassed like that. Especially not when the investigation isn't complete. Labour politicians don't even get innocent until proven guilty. The blind hatred is astonishing.

placemats · 04/09/2025 11:30

PandoraSocks · 04/09/2025 10:56

Graffiti calling Angela Rayner a “tax evader” has appeared at her Hove flat, PA Media reports. PA says:

The word “bitch” along with a much larger sign saying “tax evader!” have been pictured on a white wall on the outside of the property.

Across the road, “Tax evader Rayner” and “Rayner tax avoidance” have been graffitied on construction chipboard. a “tax evader” has appeared at her Hove flat, PA Media reports. PA says:

The word “bitch” along with a much larger sign saying “tax evader!” have been pictured on a white wall on the outside of the property.

Across the road, “Tax evader Rayner” and “Rayner tax avoidance” have been graffitied on construction chipboard.

I have no words.

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Every political party should condemn that abhorrent action.

Notonthestairs · 04/09/2025 11:41

Paul Marshall - owner of GB News and the Spectator - asking the MAGAs to ‘save’ the UK.

PandoraSocks · 04/09/2025 11:43

DuncinToffee · 04/09/2025 11:17

That's what happens when the media starts a witch hunt and people run with it.

Hope those anti Rayner posters are proud of themselves.

I doubt they will care. Their hatred of her runs very deep.

PandoraSocks · 04/09/2025 11:46

Lalgarh · 04/09/2025 11:23

Where was jenrick last night

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They even spelled all the words right.

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DuncinToffee · 04/09/2025 11:50

Badenoch has banned Bylines from the Tory Conference

Free speech latest

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SerendipityJane · 04/09/2025 12:00

Notonthestairs · 04/09/2025 11:41

Paul Marshall - owner of GB News and the Spectator - asking the MAGAs to ‘save’ the UK.

The US is too busy saving itself ..

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DuncinToffee · 04/09/2025 12:02

Brexiteers and their sovereignty

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Lalgarh · 04/09/2025 12:02

PandoraSocks · 04/09/2025 11:46

They even spelled all the words right.

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Oh look they had time to spray it in red AND with yellow shadow effects

placemats · 04/09/2025 12:05

Notonthestairs · 04/09/2025 11:41

Paul Marshall - owner of GB News and the Spectator - asking the MAGAs to ‘save’ the UK.

Calling for foreign interference is treason.

Lalgarh · 04/09/2025 12:08

Across the road, “Tax evader Rayner” and “Rayner tax avoidance” have been graffitied on construction chipboard.

Which Aspiring banksy would actually spray out "avoidance"? Mind you. Slight curve ball but Rayner got chucked out of Unite, and there is currently a nasty industrial dispute with bins going on in nearby Brighton involving slashed tyres and bomb threats allegedly perp by GMB members so this could be an attack from the left. They loathe those seen as class traitors

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/may/29/brighton-bins-dispute-council-gmb-union-missed-collections

Death threats and slashed tyres as Brighton’s battle of the bins turns toxic

Decades-long dispute between council and GMB union resurfaces after report shows 140% rise in missed collections

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/may/29/brighton-bins-dispute-council-gmb-union-missed-collections

Notonthestairs · 04/09/2025 12:08

Lot of money to be made getting MAGA involved in UK politics.
Heritage/Koch Foundations etc have splash to cash.

Why do you think Farage is dangling the fracking carrot!

PandoraSocks · 04/09/2025 12:09

Lalgarh · 04/09/2025 12:02

Oh look they had time to spray it in red AND with yellow shadow effects

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Yes, it looks as though they took some time and care, doesn't it?

Notonthestairs · 04/09/2025 12:09

Notonthestairs · 04/09/2025 12:08

Lot of money to be made getting MAGA involved in UK politics.
Heritage/Koch Foundations etc have splash to cash.

Why do you think Farage is dangling the fracking carrot!

or even cash to splash! 😂

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