So has WW3 just started?

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I can’t believe I’m not seeing more threads on this. Starmer back israel against Iran. Other Muslim countries are supporting Iran.

‘They came for the Palestinians but I did not speak out as I was not a Palestinian.…..then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me….’ to paraphrase…..

If you say so ! Maybe research the Iranian regime and you will see what real war crimes are and if you truly want to support it . I don’t anyone including lots if Iranian people who do .

Chillax

The majority, yes I feel comfortable that most countries have their weapons as a deterrent, and don’t intend to use them. There are of course exceptions, such as Russia. However, Iran once they have the weapons in situ, will not hesitate to use them against anyone they dislike. That’s the nature of the beast when talking about Iran.

I think Israel are winning in this particular axis of evil. Even Iran aren't committing genocide. They're on par with Israel in many ways but Israel definitely have the edge.

@Crazyworldmum real war crimes? You think Israel hasn’t committed real war crimes? Where have you been? What do you watch? Are you human?

Have you seen the beautiful children? Have you fucking seen them?

This thread is unbelievable. How can ANYONE still be suggesting that Israel is ok in the head?!

You think very wrong , Iran makes Israel look like angels in comparison

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2024/country-chapters/iran

Iran doesn’t violate international law and allows inspections. Guess who does the opposite??

There can’t be clear answers - we just don’t know

Matthew Syed's article is spot on. What most people fail to grasp is that Iran leadership (and Hamas and Hezbollah) want their people to die. Including children. They want as many of them to die as possible as long as it brings them closer to their goal of eliminating Israel. Iran have a history of sacrificing their own children.

Read the article: Israel knows what we won’t accept: the mullahs want nuclear war

You can't apply Western values to this situation . It's utterly shit for the population, of course, Syed says many Iranians welcome this attack.

"Religious fanatics are different. Radically different. They want to die. It’s why it is not just conceivable but probable that an ageing fundamentalist leader would launch a nuclear strike against Israel, and feel closer to Allah as the inevitable response loomed large on the radar screen. Do western commentators still not understand that this is precisely why so many sane Iranians (the majority) are thrilled by the Israeli attack? "

No. Why?

Because I think a lot of people on here now were born in the 90's so have no experience of this sort of situation.

I was born in the 70's.

Cold war, Iraq/Iran, The Troubles, The Falklands, etc. Then in the 90's Operation Desert Storm, war against terror etc. Having a long period of relative peace has actually been unusual to every previous generation than the current ones.

My great Grandmother was born in 1898 and died in the late 60's. She lived through two world wars, the Cuban missile crisis, the Korean war, the Spanish civil war..... She would be raisng her eyebrows in no small way at the panic being shown now.

Did you just imply that the crimes committed by Israel are not ‘real’ war crimes? Are you deluded? Shame on you! One day, not very far in the future you will try to hide your support of Israel but you won’t be able to hide it as you’ve published it in the internet!

I'm perfectly aware of what Iran is doing. If you can show me the evidence of genocide, I'll admit they're on par.

Iran aren't shooting starving people approaching food trucks.

Israel Doesn’t get girls aged 9 married , Israel doesn’t kill women for being raped or for not wearing a veil , Israel doesn’t rape and kill gay men . So again , Iran is 1000x worse in every way than Israel

No it’s rapping 9 year old girls and forging them to marriage… so much better

Uneducated and willfully ignorant alert!

I’m not bidding g my support for Israel . I will support them . Quite open about it .

It's a race to the bottom when you're comparing atrocities.

Personally, I’m happy to support Israel in defending themselves from the terrorists Hamas. Hamas should take full responsibility for the 55000 Palestinians killed since October 7th 2023. Had Hamas not kidnapped tortured and murdered Israelis, then the Palestinian deaths would not have happened. It’s important to allocate the blame to the right people - Hamas.

There are people in this thread saying “ I will support anyone but Israel “ well in this case I will support Israel and anyone else who supports the end of the Iranian regime .

Ignorance is bliss I suppose…..keep on trying to justify…after all they are all subhuman anyway right? It’s great you are showing us who you really are…..

I support neither. There's no debate to be had with people who support genocidal regimes.

Are you a bot? Or a real person? You keep fear mongering with no real evidence!

The main problems with nuclear weapons are, first, the very very big bang that removes an entire city from the map in an instant, and second, all the particulates that get swept up into the atmosphere, especially if there were to be a lot of them going off. (The one upside of a nuclear winter is that it would handily reverse global warming.) To that you can add the utter chaos to any society caused by the loss of a big city.

Radiation is very much a minor problem compared to that. In fact we are overly worried about ionising radiation in general as a risk. Only about 50 people died as a result of Chernobyl (official WHO figures), and I think I'm right in saying that nobody died of radiation as a result of Fukushima (versus 20,000 who were killed by the tsunami). Most of our attitude to radiation is still governed by the risk appraisals of the 1930s to 1950s, when we discovered that drinking radium wasn't in fact good for you.

This is not to say that you shouldn't try to avoid ionising radiation as much as possible, of course you should, but going for an X-ray is about the same risk as driving a mile without a seatbelt on, and a single nuclear bomb on Tel Aviv or Kyiv would kill hundreds of thousands in the blast and probably only a few hundred due to fallout.