Thread 25 Starmer - Cheers for a falling out among thieves

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Honestly you can get knotted with that accusation.

I was the one who posted the UNICEF study about child poverty which very specifically affects those towns and cities. Did you read it? Do you have anything to add or contribute.

I spend every day in a rage about wealth inequalities.

I do also want to ask frugalit whether you have been to Hemel Hempstead?? I'm not convinced 'nice town' would be the first description. Did you choose it for sonorous effect??

https://www.standard.co.uk/business/business-news/union-membership-increases-in-reformled-councils-b1231910.html

Reform UK is increasing Union membership. Particularly in Northern areas.

Good. At last there’s some positive news about them.

@Piggywaspushed Ah yes, the thread for civilised discussion. Nice one. Life long labour voter, remainer and would never ever consider Reform. That’s me told ever trying to put a nuanced view forward.

What is your problem ? Oh I’m a thick racist, why would I understand the word sonorous ?

I don't understand how your post follows on from mine frugalit, tbh.

Did you read the UNICEF report? I linked it a few pages back.

I care deeply about the treatment and experiences of people in deprived communities . You seem to think that is your preserve and that only you understand. That isn't awfully nuanced.

Not sure the relevance of your voting patterns. I didn't assume you were a Reform/Tory voter. I just assumed you think you know more.

I was brought up in Red Clydeside FWIW.

Ermmm. I didn't call anyone thick or racist and couldn't think of a better word. Why did you pick Hemel ??

You've lost me there, are we talking about the 1000+ that came over recently because someone on here mentioned only 4 French officers against 100 migrants trying to get in one boat and I said there should be more officers.

No one has called you thick or racist on this thread.

Especially not me, miss!

@Frugalit are you new to Mumsnet?

Why are you so aggressive. I never said I knew more than anyone, entirely in your head. And if you care so much about people in deprived communities, get over the superior attitude. It really won’t go down well.
I guess you didn’t read the article I posted from the Bolton news either. If you knew anything you’d be aware that certain northern towns were hit hardest by austerity already, they were already struggling to carry out basic public services because of a historical imbalance of funds from central government, more so than the south.

Everyone can breathe a sigh of relief now

🔴The ‘Millionaire Exodus’ the UK Media Told You About Never Actually Happened

The equivalent of 30 stories a day were published about an exodus of wealthy people that a new study finds was “non existent”

bylinetimes.com/2025/06/10/the-millionaire-exodus-the-uk-media-told-you-about-never-actually-happened/

I did actually frugal. I always read links!

It was you who asked whether anyone on this thread had been to any of the deprived Northern towns and claimed an insider expertise.

I really don't want to argue with you. I am not an arguer. I just don't like your implication that we are all soft southerners from apparently lovely places like Hemel. And there was absolutely nothing aggressive about my post which you called aggressive.

I'll stop wondering about Hemel. It has a crazy roundabout to keep intruders in a state of alarm as they enter. And leave it. And enter again.

It's been a few weeks since we have been accused of something

Is that the Dutch style one?

I also read the really interesting post about why some councils end up with disproportionate numbers of migrant residents. That was food for thought.

No, this is quite old.

It's infamous.

BRB

Here it is.

The sign is a thing of legend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Hemel_Hempstead)

It’s the Magic roundabout. I nearly shat myself the first time I drove round it.

Legend/horror.
I’ve spent a lot of time in Hemel and dread the bastard roundabout.

I nearly stopped at the 5th roundabout just to have a cry.

The someone who mentioned there were only 4 officers was obviously not posting in good faith. Most of us realised that.

In terms of the Austria school shooting - it is no coincidence that Austria has some of the most lax gun laws in the EU.