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Labour isn't working - Thread 3

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TheNuthatch · 12/05/2025 15:45

A thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

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TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 13:41

We have a U turn! Or as Ed Davey described it (whilst calling for an apology from the government) "the world's longest u turn".

Thinking of your Dad @Boohoo76. Excellent news for him 😁

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Boohoo76 · 21/05/2025 13:45

TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 13:41

We have a U turn! Or as Ed Davey described it (whilst calling for an apology from the government) "the world's longest u turn".

Thinking of your Dad @Boohoo76. Excellent news for him 😁

Yes, good news for my dad. I presume he will be eligible under whatever means testing they introduce as he’s just above pension credit amount 🤞

EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 13:49

Boohoo76 · 21/05/2025 13:45

Yes, good news for my dad. I presume he will be eligible under whatever means testing they introduce as he’s just above pension credit amount 🤞

Amazing @Boohoo76 I’m so glad.

I think Labour have blown that particular area around WFA for them, but great if your dad gets it back.

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Mypinkchequebookholder · 21/05/2025 13:54

TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 13:41

We have a U turn! Or as Ed Davey described it (whilst calling for an apology from the government) "the world's longest u turn".

Thinking of your Dad @Boohoo76. Excellent news for him 😁

Hang on !
Let's not get over excited !
It's not over until the fat lady sings (as they say)

If I heard what Starmer said correctly it would "depend on the money available" and something would be announced in the Autumn.

TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 13:59

Mypinkchequebookholder · 21/05/2025 13:54

Hang on !
Let's not get over excited !
It's not over until the fat lady sings (as they say)

If I heard what Starmer said correctly it would "depend on the money available" and something would be announced in the Autumn.

Fair enough.
I don't think Starmer will have much choice but to at least increase the threshold now. It's good news for people like Boohoo's Dad.

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EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 14:05

I hope @Boohoo76dad gets it, we’re cheering that when it happens. Fair point on Starmer being slippery though @Mypinkchequebookholderpeople will keep pushing on this I reckon.

This whole thing has been an unforced error by Labour and I doubt they can do much about the political hit.

And this was post local elections, after all that the only thing that got them to shift.

Mypinkchequebookholder · 21/05/2025 14:31

EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 14:05

I hope @Boohoo76dad gets it, we’re cheering that when it happens. Fair point on Starmer being slippery though @Mypinkchequebookholderpeople will keep pushing on this I reckon.

This whole thing has been an unforced error by Labour and I doubt they can do much about the political hit.

And this was post local elections, after all that the only thing that got them to shift.

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I also think that losing the Runcorn & Helsby by-election to Reform gave them a real fright.
I know it was only 6 votes but previously it was a Labour seat with a 14,696 majority

TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 14:44

Leaked memo shows Rayner wanted tax rises, Reeves ignored. I'm not sure this has been leaked accidentally when you consider the timing, and the dismay coming from the left of the LP.
Could this be Rayner parking her tanks on Reeves and Starmer's lawn?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnv116qqqyjo

Angela Rayner steps out of a black car wearing a white dress. She carries a red folder and a black bag.

Leaked memo reveals Angela Rayner called for tax rises

The deputy prime minister's department sent the note before the Spring Statement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnv116qqqyjo

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EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 14:48

Mypinkchequebookholder · 21/05/2025 14:31

I also think that losing the Runcorn & Helsby by-election to Reform gave them a real fright.
I know it was only 6 votes but previously it was a Labour seat with a 14,696 majority

Yep you’re right it was more likely that. He’s on the back foot and panicky.

On Rayner yes probably leaking stuff. Always fun to watch the internal machinations start to fray.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/05/2025 14:58

If you are right about the leaks then the Sunday papers might be interesting, if there are some counter leaks.

TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 15:15

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/05/2025 14:58

If you are right about the leaks then the Sunday papers might be interesting, if there are some counter leaks.

Yes, its one to watch I think. She hasn't looked impressed with Starmer this past few weeks.
Rayner has far more political nous than Starmer or Reeves imo.

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EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 15:20

How do Rayner and Streeting get on? Just musing of course

TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 15:22

EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 15:20

How do Rayner and Streeting get on? Just musing of course

Ooh good question, I don't know but that's something else to watch out for.

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Mypinkchequebookholder · 21/05/2025 16:23

TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 15:22

Ooh good question, I don't know but that's something else to watch out for.

Streeting has just got engaged to his partner of 12 years while Rayner is back with her on/off boyfriend

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14527259/Angela-Rayner-soulmate-boyfriend-Labours-deputy-PM-makes-relationship-ex-MP-Sam-Tarry-official-sacked-Keir-Starmer.html

EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 16:46

😀 I meant as politicians eg as Chancellor and PM, maybe post GE. I think it’s hard for Reeves or Starmer to go separately and if one does they both do, but who knows. There’s probably some panic behind the scenes due to polling.

@Parsley1234I saw your post on the last thread. We’re over here 👋

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/05/2025 16:47

EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 15:20

How do Rayner and Streeting get on? Just musing of course

They appear to be quite chummy.

WS came in her defence last year, and she returned the favour later.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/05/2025 16:49

Which might not be worth much, minds

Parsley1234 · 21/05/2025 17:31

I’ve missed so much 😢😢😢
what about the salacious gossip that the arsonist is a rent boy 😜
and Rachel reeves still moaning further and faster 🤣🤣🤣

Bluebellwood129 · 21/05/2025 17:56

EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 15:20

How do Rayner and Streeting get on? Just musing of course

Surely Streeting is waiting in the wings rubbing his hands in glee as he watches Starmer self destruct

TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 19:03

@Parsley1234 welcome back. You have been missed. Back with a bang, as always 😂.

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twistyizzy · 21/05/2025 19:06

TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 14:44

Leaked memo shows Rayner wanted tax rises, Reeves ignored. I'm not sure this has been leaked accidentally when you consider the timing, and the dismay coming from the left of the LP.
Could this be Rayner parking her tanks on Reeves and Starmer's lawn?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnv116qqqyjo

I think that's #10+11 briefing against her as she is a direct threat to them

EasternStandard · 21/05/2025 19:09

@Parsley1234glad you’re back 😀

The briefing against each other can do more damage than outside a party, interesting if they’re ramping up.

TheNuthatch · 21/05/2025 19:15

twistyizzy · 21/05/2025 19:06

I think that's #10+11 briefing against her as she is a direct threat to them

I didn't think of that, good call.
If it is 10 and 11, I think it will backfire. Whatever this is, it certainly looks as if all is not well.

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Parsley1234 · 21/05/2025 19:31

Maybe I should join the Labour Party further and faster rhetoric more money in people’s pockets 🤣🤣 jeez what a back step today. I just love the idea of Rayner plotting anything and with whom her on off lover ? Mind you she’s a bloody liability but if she gets parachuted in by the unions on the back step of the two stooges departure that’ll be an upturn well downturn

placemats · 21/05/2025 22:15

Andrea Jenkyns said that she supports WFA being means tested.

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