Yes but interesting all the same because Lowe had some very specific ideas about Reform and what changes he wanted them to put forward. Which was basically repealing about 95 per cent on anti discrimination legislation, the HRA, racial and religious hatred laws, the stuff that underpins current society. That would basically be pre Blair.
Hr sounded utterly like a throw back a man of a certain era who has had a life where he had a guarantee that he would be taken account of, and conducted the interview that way. To modern ears he might sound barmy. But I thought it very familiar. He would have been in the Tory Party 30 years ago, no problem, and his views accepted.