Thread 23 Starmer - Reflux Remedy

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Oh no, pet passports. Does that mean we will have European pets coming over here? Dogs are bad enough but French dogs will be the worst.

The scale of the drama llama-ry is off the charts.
It cant be nostalgia if the time they long for didn't exist.

I hope, in time, the VAT rules & import duties change, i've lost a fortune on cycle parts as i can no longer buy anything from the EU over £135, without costly delays and potential duties.

Of course not just bicycle bits.

Aside, can defo see why Labour said very little about the EU pre election, to do so, would have made the GE a Brexit campaign mk2, to the delight of the Tories & Reform.

Well, I think it should help the UK food and to a lesser degree, the farming sector. Permanently.

Could it be further improved? Yes. And a lot of this looks like agreements to agree.

In terms of what Labour have done however, the matters on SPS and quota negotiations are not very different from the last Conservative governments wishes - to me it looks like another howl that Starmer has done something that the Conservatives knew should happen but did not want to take the political risk. Starmer has taken that risk.

It should pay off for the economy; politically…? Wait and see

Politically? i think that will all hinge on X channel migration, not dealt with directly in these talks but the rise of Reform, is directly associated with small boats/hotels etc.

Labour are now saying Reform is the opposition for the next GE, not the Tories, the Cons need to wake and recognise this too, they seem stuck in the past, yet again, focusing only on Labour.

This is the kind of business that could have benefitted from the changes announced. Since Brexit he has gone bust, because of this anti business deal done by Johnson

www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/20/uk-cheesemaker-welcomes-new-eu-deal-but-says-it-comes-four-years-too-late

I heard him interviewed on the radio last night. It was a very sad story.

Yes this deal on SPS was on offer years ago and would have saved businesses like Spurrell's, but the Conservatives were too busy worrying about optics rather than the economy. 'Fuck business'.

I agree with all of that. It’s pretty obvious to me that Labour (Starmer) are occupying old Conservative policy territory which the Conservatives did not feel they could do due to the threat of Brexit/Reform politics.

This leaves Badenoch with almost nowhere to go, except into apeing Reform politics across the board. It will lead to a collapse in Conservative support.

Labour is interesting because I don’t see this radical domestic agenda they promised yet, housing, energy, employment and training. This is the hard stuff (harder than concluding international agreements) but at least they are trying to grow the economy.

The Tories are cooked. Remains to be seen for Labour

John Crace was on form with his Brexit derangement syndrome if it helps flummoxing the reflux all good in my book.

I’m desperately hoping that if the economy does grow then Labour will be brave embark on a massive social housing building programme/energy/training & employment, lift the two child benefit cap.

Labour should reverse the winter fuel allowance decision and say its because of the money this deal will bring

Labour will not have any time to embark on a social hose building program now, by the time land bought, planning sought, people skilled up, it'll be too late for the next GE, 4 years will fly by!!!

What they could do is give councils the money to buy the ones built or waiting for funding but are laying empty because HA's have no money & buy up private housing and then rent out... Plymouth Council is doing this on a limited scale as are others, such is the cost of temp housing.

They could improve the road network too, pot holes are still be only temporally repaired or not at all, and the assessments on what is repaired is daft, a pot repaired but one next to it which is 3mm deep but not 40mm is left, sections of the A386 nr Tavistock.... weeks later, they are back again to repair the 39mm one which is now 41mm.....

These are things the electorate will notice but ultimately, i believe the next GE will be all about migration, Labour need to get a handle on this by whatever means or lose to Reform.

Good thing popcorn businesses are happy with the red tape cutting, the meltdown is real 🍿

Alexander no doubt you are correct, I think I get all misty eyed 15minutes from me is one of the largest post war LA estates built in Europe

Looking at private school pupil numbers in the ISC census and they've fallen back to where they were in..... 2022. Not exactly the disaster many predicted....

https://bsky.app/profile/samfr.bsky.social/post/3lplsirkf462w

She usually is. Have you ever considered an active political role @Alexandra2001? I reckon you’d be a cracking MP. Incidentally, according to some posters this morning Reform won’t need policies to gain power.

Reform have policies.

They just dont want to talk about them (for reasons that are obvious)

I know but apparently they won’t need them.

they wont need them?

Do they mean Reform will govern without policies, just making it up as they go?

Or do they mean Reform wont dare publish their policies before the election because they are likely to result in what the Economist describes as 'fiscal recklessness that rivals, and may well exceed, the disastrous 49 day, hair-raising, maket tanking premiership of Liz Truss in 2022.'

It's laughable that Reform won't need policies. Are they forgetting the gains in the recent 2025 elections?

Making it up as they go along as far as I can tell. The phrase “Business as usual” was used.

They don't even seem worried about the collapse of the Conservative Party, glory hunters in football terms.

My view is a lot of them want a Tardis to go back in time.

A time that never existed.

This can't be stressed enough. That time was infested with all sorts of discrimination - overt and covert. It was built on inequality and inequity, It was never a golden age for 80% of the population. Admittedly it was a time when you didn't need to worry what your wife or servants were reading. However, from close observation, reading isn't really a Brexiteer thing.

Meanwhile, I am content that (as predicted on here, if not universally) Brexit has killed the Tory party.

Boo fucking hoo.

And Dubai Dick as chancellor