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Thread 20 Starmer - Spring Statement

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DuncinToffee · 20/03/2025 14:03

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pointythings · 25/03/2025 10:10

cardibach · 25/03/2025 09:53

Why does the fact Starmer’s voice is a bit nasal upset you so much? You seem to feel having a nasal voice makes you weak. I couldn’t care less personally - what he looks like or what he sounds like.

I agree. It's a symptom of the shallow style over substance mindset that pervades UK politics. See also the obsession with school uniform.

Rummly · 25/03/2025 10:21

cardibach · 25/03/2025 09:56

I don’t get a sense of lurching. I think things seem to come ‘out of the blue’ because they aren’t constantly leaking and trailing stuff in the press, but are just doing things in their plan. I don’t like all of it but it doesn’t feel unplanned to me.

…because they aren’t constantly leaking and trailing stuff in the press…

You have got to be kidding.

itsgettingweird · 25/03/2025 12:00

Notonthestairs · 25/03/2025 08:50

I hope that the Signal leak pushes the Government further towards the EU.

Vance is far more interested in cosying up to Middle Eastern leaders, Turkey etc and clearly has a strong antipathy towards Europe. All that money laundering and tax legislation getting in their way...

I imagine he also fancies himself as POTUS on the next ticket. So potentially this may signal(!) a long term break.

Any deal made with Trump - however unlikely that seems - would be undermined by Vance at every turn and he does appear to wield significantly more influence than Pence ever did.

I assume the Government is also re-evaluating what security information they can safely share with the US administration. They are chatting on unsecure networks. We must assume Russia is listening in.

I would hope that the Labour government also learnt from previous Conservative cockups regarding use of WAs (I bet they haven't).

My exact initial thought was
the Tory and what’s app scandal of old.

I couldn’t believe it when I heard someone talking in R4 earlier basically saying the journo is shit and discredited so we
shouldn't pay any attention to what they are reporting.

itsgettingweird · 25/03/2025 12:03

Just listening again “thisnisbthe guy that pedals in hoaxes. No one was texting war plans”.

wonder if he was told they were going to come clean before he did that announcement!

DuncinToffee · 25/03/2025 12:06

There are receipts

Even when phones go missing

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Notonthestairs · 25/03/2025 12:55

I thought they’d already acknowledged the authenticity of the messages?

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SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 14:39

Meanwhile, back on planet UK, following the email I posted upthread to my MP, a weighty 2 page/3 side reply hit* my doormat today from my MP in her role as MP on HoC stationary.

Nothing to see so lets move on. However the speed, length and sheer weight** of reply suggests the party is very sensitive to this.

*Given the weight of the paper, a small child could have been hurt had they been beneath the letterbox.

**Seriously. It must be 120g/sqm paper. HoC headed. The ink probably weighed a gramme or two.

DuncinToffee · 25/03/2025 14:41

Hand written?

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SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 14:45

DuncinToffee · 25/03/2025 14:41

Hand written?

No. And cyclostyled signature.

DuncinToffee · 25/03/2025 15:25

tut tut

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Notonthestairs · 25/03/2025 16:12

I saw that about Fox. What on earth possessed him to share such a picture?

Also saw that Ant Middleton - prospective Reform Mayoral candidate - has been banned from being a company director because he has £1 million unpaid tax. He's buggered off to Dubai. As Nick Candy said the Reform-ers really do love that ex pat lifestyle.

Farage must be feeling chipper - the KC has found credible evidence that Lowe and friends unlawfully harrassed two women.
That does leave Lowe free for another populist party. Presumably he's on the phone to Musk as I type.

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 16:19

I saw that about Fox. What on earth possessed him to share such a picture?

These people really aren't that bright.

The paradox of being wealthy, is you don't need to be clever.

The corollary of that is that qualifications aren't a reflection of intelligence. (But we all knew that anyway).

DuncinToffee · 25/03/2025 16:26

The invite to the WH is in the post

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PickAChew · 25/03/2025 16:27

Repugnant men are repugnant. Part 13927.

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 16:45

Fun fact: Liz Truss spent such a short time as prime minister that the government website now has "past prime ministers" in the wrong order:
https://www.gov.uk/government/history/past-prime-ministers

One assumes this is because the people who wrote the (otherwise very good) website didn't anticipate that you would ever have two prime ministers starting the job in the same year as one another

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PickAChew · 25/03/2025 17:07

Voluntary extra tax. I've just spotted our first blossom of the Spring, about 3 gardens over, so here is a blurry, heavily cropped pic of it 🌸

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itsgettingweird · 25/03/2025 19:33

I live a bit of blossom. Its so pretty and truely means better weather is on the way ☀️

BIossomtoes · 25/03/2025 20:36

itsgettingweird · 25/03/2025 19:33

I live a bit of blossom. Its so pretty and truely means better weather is on the way ☀️

So do I. This is my favourite time of the year - blossom, daffodils, spring lambs - it’s lovely watching the world come back to life after the winter.

cardibach · 25/03/2025 21:18

Rummly · 25/03/2025 10:21

…because they aren’t constantly leaking and trailing stuff in the press…

You have got to be kidding.

Nope. You said before you thought they were and I believe events showed they probably weren’t. Papers are gossiping. That’s not the same thing.

cardibach · 25/03/2025 21:22

this is…umm…interesting regarding the journalist in the war WhatsApp

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MaybeNotBob · 25/03/2025 21:23

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He drinks a whiskey drink
He drinks a vodka drink
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DuncinToffee · 26/03/2025 12:47

PMQ's over, time for the Spring Statement

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PickAChew · 26/03/2025 13:36

Summarised as nothing, nothing, nothing, oh, we're going to cut UC for disabled people by more than we let on, last week. 😡

This, from the BBC, did tickle me. Clearly for the benefit of those people who like to forget that England has a northern bit.

"She confirms plans for investment in Barrow - a town in north-west England where the UK's nuclear submarines are maintained - in order to create thousands of jobs in the area."

DuncinToffee · 26/03/2025 13:39

Good summary

Still ignoring brexit and now the 🍊as well

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