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Trump+Musk; the DOGE and Pony show continues -Trump thread #140

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Spandauer · 18/03/2025 17:41

Trump, as out of control as a faulty Tesla, takes an ICE pick to the Constitution.

Thanks to @AcrossthePond55 and @Jaichangecentfoisdenom for the thread title and sub-title 😊

Photocollage: Cold War Steve
Map illustration: Barry Blitt

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5286872-the-orange-man-and-the-state-of-his-union-trump-thread-139

Trump+Musk; the DOGE and Pony show continues -Trump thread #140
Trump+Musk; the DOGE and Pony show continues -Trump thread #140
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Talkinpeace · 25/03/2025 14:19

Spandauer · 25/03/2025 13:19

Script as predicted- Leavitt never fails to disappoint.

Goldberg should threaten suggest that if nothing untoward was disclosed then it's OK for him to publish all the texts/info from the Signal thread.

Lots of the screenshots are out there.
If he publishes it all, it exposes a CIA bod
AND details what weapon capabilities the US can put on each jet
so it won't happen

AcrossthePond55 · 25/03/2025 14:20

Yeah, remember that Alien Enemies Act Proclamation that resulted in deportation of Venezuelan migrants and who the fuck knows who else without due process of law via the illegal flights to an El Salvadoran prison? You know, the thing that's resulted in a court order to turn the planes around? The the violation of which is now working its way through the courts?

Yeah, well Scrotus doesn't know anything about it. Nothing at all. He didn't sign anything, doesn't know who did. Despite the proclamation appearing in the Federal Register with Trump’s signature at the bottom. It's Lil Marco's fault. He's in charge of all that.

Obviously when he says he didn't sign it, he was referring to the original AEA. You know, the one that was signed in 1798.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/21/politics/trump-signature-alien-enemies-act-proclamation/index.html

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-03-20/pdf/2025-04865.pdf

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 14:32

Igotjelly · 25/03/2025 13:26

It’s the blatant lies that still get me, we can literally all see with our own eyes what was discussed and still she’s up there like the good little lap dog arguing that the sky is green.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8205321-the-party-told-you-to-reject-the-evidence-of-your

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

(cf. Boris Johnson "There are no cameras here" as caught on 1,000 cameras)

A quote from 1984

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8205321-the-party-told-you-to-reject-the-evidence-of-your

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SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 14:34

Talkinpeace · 25/03/2025 14:19

Lots of the screenshots are out there.
If he publishes it all, it exposes a CIA bod
AND details what weapon capabilities the US can put on each jet
so it won't happen

I think Russia are already well aware of US capabilities. If Trump knows, they do.

Wallaw · 25/03/2025 14:38

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 14:34

I think Russia are already well aware of US capabilities. If Trump knows, they do.

Yeah, I think you can add Tulsi to the 'if she knows, they know' list, and quite likely China to the knowers.

But there are others, say Iran, who might not. At least, not yet.

Talkinpeace · 25/03/2025 14:54

Turns out Witkoff was in Moscow when he was added to the group - so Russia has ALL of the screenshots

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 14:58

Wallaw · 25/03/2025 14:38

Yeah, I think you can add Tulsi to the 'if she knows, they know' list, and quite likely China to the knowers.

But there are others, say Iran, who might not. At least, not yet.

The problem Russia now face, is because the whole world knows that the fastest way to call Putin is to ask Trump, then any intelligence the Russians now obtain must be viewed as tainted and false. So good luck to them wading through petabytes of "intelligence" only to emerge with last weeks biscuit list.

If the British security forces haven't setup a firehose of absolute tosh to flood the Russians with, then we deserve to be annihilated. Even my cat could have worked that out. And I don't have a cat.

Similarly, the US can no longer trust the intelligence it is passed by it's "allies".

Sometimes you can be just that little bit too clever ....

Wallaw · 25/03/2025 15:00

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 14:58

The problem Russia now face, is because the whole world knows that the fastest way to call Putin is to ask Trump, then any intelligence the Russians now obtain must be viewed as tainted and false. So good luck to them wading through petabytes of "intelligence" only to emerge with last weeks biscuit list.

If the British security forces haven't setup a firehose of absolute tosh to flood the Russians with, then we deserve to be annihilated. Even my cat could have worked that out. And I don't have a cat.

Similarly, the US can no longer trust the intelligence it is passed by it's "allies".

Sometimes you can be just that little bit too clever ....

Sometimes you can be just that little bit too clever ....

None of the administration is in much danger of that 😀

Their chess playing gets more and more multi-dimensional by the day

DuncinToffee · 25/03/2025 15:12

Senate Intel hearing

Gabbard says that anybody who Trump wants to get a security clearance can get one

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ll7kbt2bxx2s

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 15:16

Wallaw · 25/03/2025 15:00

Sometimes you can be just that little bit too clever ....

None of the administration is in much danger of that 😀

Their chess playing gets more and more multi-dimensional by the day

I was referring to Russia ...

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 15:17

DuncinToffee · 25/03/2025 15:12

Senate Intel hearing

Gabbard says that anybody who Trump wants to get a security clearance can get one

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ll7kbt2bxx2s

It would break my heart if he isn't mentising that.

Wallaw · 25/03/2025 15:17

DuncinToffee · 25/03/2025 15:12

Senate Intel hearing

Gabbard says that anybody who Trump wants to get a security clearance can get one

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ll7kbt2bxx2s

That's a fact. If a President has the applicant kneel before him (or her) and taps each shoulder with a tube of bronzer, saying, 'I clear thee' with each tap, they're cleared.

BustingBaoBun · 25/03/2025 16:00

Will Trump even bother with the Easter Egg roll? It seems to me his administration are not doing anything nice, normal or traditional. They are just bulldozing through all the norms. Why would he even think of doing it... he doesn't like children (not even his own), he would rather be golfing, he doesn't want to be spending any time doing anything that benefits anyone else and in this term, he can be as unpleasant as he wants.

Spandauer · 25/03/2025 16:43

BustingBaoBun · 25/03/2025 16:00

Will Trump even bother with the Easter Egg roll? It seems to me his administration are not doing anything nice, normal or traditional. They are just bulldozing through all the norms. Why would he even think of doing it... he doesn't like children (not even his own), he would rather be golfing, he doesn't want to be spending any time doing anything that benefits anyone else and in this term, he can be as unpleasant as he wants.

And will Melania turn up for it? She's been very quiet since the inauguration - Working on her tv special for Amazon?

Maybe they'll rope in the normal Vance and Musk families to lead the hunt for eggs? Musk lives at the WH now doesn't he?

Trump+Musk; the DOGE and Pony show continues -Trump thread #140
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BustingBaoBun · 25/03/2025 17:00

Spandauer · 25/03/2025 16:43

And will Melania turn up for it? She's been very quiet since the inauguration - Working on her tv special for Amazon?

Maybe they'll rope in the normal Vance and Musk families to lead the hunt for eggs? Musk lives at the WH now doesn't he?

Ha, yes! Melania spends most of her time in NY. Apparently

MrTiddlesTheCat · 25/03/2025 17:01

Is this really what the MAGA lot want? Child labour?

Igotjelly · 25/03/2025 17:08

MrTiddlesTheCat · 25/03/2025 17:01

Is this really what the MAGA lot want? Child labour?

So long as it’s not their children….

Wallaw · 25/03/2025 17:16

MrTiddlesTheCat · 25/03/2025 17:01

Is this really what the MAGA lot want? Child labour?

Combined with the closing of the department of education it could solve the aging work force problem

@Igotjelly

So long as it’s not their children….

I don't know. Suspect there are quite a few MAGAs who think it's never too soon to get them saving up for that first AR15

Errolwasahero · 25/03/2025 17:16

I’m finally reading 1984, having always intended to. Bloody hell I didn’t realise it was actually their instruction manual!

SerendipityJane · 25/03/2025 17:35

MrTiddlesTheCat · 25/03/2025 17:01

Is this really what the MAGA lot want? Child labour?

For some, it can't come fast enough.

AcrossthePond55 · 25/03/2025 18:58

MrTiddlesTheCat · 25/03/2025 17:01

Is this really what the MAGA lot want? Child labour?

Well, what else are we going to do with all the children after we deport their parents to El Salvador? They gotta earn their keep somehow, right?

AcrossthePond55 · 25/03/2025 18:59

Errolwasahero · 25/03/2025 17:16

I’m finally reading 1984, having always intended to. Bloody hell I didn’t realise it was actually their instruction manual!

I was considering re-reading it since it's been decades. But then I thought why bother? I'm living it.

BustingBaoBun · 25/03/2025 19:37

Trumpy is now saying that Goldberg hacked into the system "The person that was on just happens to be a sleazebag, so maybe that's just coincidence. I don't know ... he's basically bad for the country."

This is what he always does. Jus attacks people when he's wrong.

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