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Ukraine Invasion: Part 55

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MagicFox · 01/03/2025 19:58

We're on 55. Slava Ukraini πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ That last one went quickly!

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Igotjelly · 11/03/2025 18:13

Thank god:

We've now received a joint statement from the US and Ukraine after today's meeting in Saudi Arabia which lasted nine hours.
The US says it will immediately lift the pause on intelligence sharing and will resume its security assistance to Ukraine.
The two countries took "important steps towards restoring durable peace" for Ukraine during today's meeting, the US State Department added.
Ukraine has also expressed its readiness to accept the US proposal to enact an immediate, interim 30-day ceasefire.

DuncinToffee · 11/03/2025 18:21

Ukraine has agreed to a US proposal for an immediate 30 day ceasefire. Ball is now in Russia’s court. Trump is likely about to discover how uninterested in real peace Putin is, unless it’s entirely on his terms.

Llttledrummergirl · 11/03/2025 18:28

It's interesting, because Ukraines stance hasn't changed since before the Whitehouse ambush, they have always said they are open to negotiation. and yet the Americans are behaving as though there has been some major breakthrough that means America will now start sharing intelligence again.

The stock market is falling, Americans are beginning to see behind the curtain. I wonder if this has anything to do with normality being reasserted.

heldinadream · 11/03/2025 18:29

Putin could play the game for a month though, just to jerk everyone about.
I would not put it past him to be extremely devious in this scenario.
The whole thing makes me very nervous.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 11/03/2025 18:33

The US says it will immediately lift the pause on intelligence sharing and will resume its security assistance to Ukraine.

If it's as good as it seems then thank heavens.

Igotjelly · 11/03/2025 18:40

If it wasn’t for the fact that innocent people would die I honestly would hope the orange dictator wannabe would end up with egg on his face when the Russians flatly refuse the ceasefire proposal.

MissConductUS · 11/03/2025 18:50

Llttledrummergirl · 11/03/2025 18:28

It's interesting, because Ukraines stance hasn't changed since before the Whitehouse ambush, they have always said they are open to negotiation. and yet the Americans are behaving as though there has been some major breakthrough that means America will now start sharing intelligence again.

The stock market is falling, Americans are beginning to see behind the curtain. I wonder if this has anything to do with normality being reasserted.

The stock market is falling here because Trump said in TV interview that his trade wars could cause a recession in the US, and he's pretty much okay with that. It's not to do with Ukraine.

Trump says US will experience 'period of transition' when asked if economy could see a recession this year

So now we're looking at a recession. Stupid wanker.

Trump says US will experience 'period of transition' when asked if economy could see a recession this year

President Donald Trump predicted the U.S. economy will experience a "period of transition" while declining to explicitly predict whether the country could see a recession in 2025.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/trump-us-experience-period-transition-economy-see-recession-year

notimagain · 11/03/2025 19:04

Juts for info, update on a little spat that has been going on between Mark Kelly - US Navy veteran, former astronaut and current Democratic senator and….Big Biggly brave Elon of course..

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/11/mark-kelly-elon-musk-ukraine

DdraigGoch · 11/03/2025 19:13

Llttledrummergirl · 11/03/2025 18:28

It's interesting, because Ukraines stance hasn't changed since before the Whitehouse ambush, they have always said they are open to negotiation. and yet the Americans are behaving as though there has been some major breakthrough that means America will now start sharing intelligence again.

The stock market is falling, Americans are beginning to see behind the curtain. I wonder if this has anything to do with normality being reasserted.

It's a bit like with Canada and Mexico. Trump withdrawing from the brink and claiming victory for things that the Canadians and Mexicans had previously agreed with Biden.

Alexandra2001 · 11/03/2025 19:33

MissConductUS · 11/03/2025 18:50

The stock market is falling here because Trump said in TV interview that his trade wars could cause a recession in the US, and he's pretty much okay with that. It's not to do with Ukraine.

Trump says US will experience 'period of transition' when asked if economy could see a recession this year

So now we're looking at a recession. Stupid wanker.

What do they say?

"When America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold!"

It wont just be the USA in recession.

Wanker indeed!!!

Igotjelly · 11/03/2025 20:13

Trump has asked Zelenskyy to visit the White House again, he’s a fool if he does surely!

PerkingFaintly · 11/03/2025 20:35

The 30-day ceasefire has been put forward again, with Ukraine apparently having signed up to something – subject to Russian agreement.

Rubio is now saying out loud that the ball is in Russia's court.

PerkingFaintly · 11/03/2025 20:35

All breaking news and we need to see the details. And then we need to see what Russia will do.

Igotjelly · 11/03/2025 20:37

I suspect that Putin will tell Trump to go fuck himself. And if he doesn’t I wouldn’t trust Putin one iota! He’ll find a way to break any ceasefire and it to be Ukraine’s fault.

PerkingFaintly · 11/03/2025 20:39

Igotjelly · 11/03/2025 20:37

I suspect that Putin will tell Trump to go fuck himself. And if he doesn’t I wouldn’t trust Putin one iota! He’ll find a way to break any ceasefire and it to be Ukraine’s fault.

He’ll find a way to break any ceasefire and it to be Ukraine’s fault.

That's pretty much what would I expect, but let's see how it goes.

sleepwouldbenice · 11/03/2025 20:45

Igotjelly · 11/03/2025 20:13

Trump has asked Zelenskyy to visit the White House again, he’s a fool if he does surely!

I have seen it mentioned he could go with starmer and macron
Otherwise please no!

Igotjelly · 11/03/2025 21:00

Reading Sky News’ live feed and it says β€œThis was a diplomatic healing between both parties, a reset on relations that restores a military alliance.
Clearly, Ukraine will welcome the US lifting its pause on intelligence-sharing and weapons supply.
It will strengthen the ties between Washington and Kyiv, even if trust remains undermined.”

I had known intelligence sharing had been restored but had weapons supply too?

Igotjelly · 11/03/2025 21:05

Igotjelly · 11/03/2025 21:00

Reading Sky News’ live feed and it says β€œThis was a diplomatic healing between both parties, a reset on relations that restores a military alliance.
Clearly, Ukraine will welcome the US lifting its pause on intelligence-sharing and weapons supply.
It will strengthen the ties between Washington and Kyiv, even if trust remains undermined.”

I had known intelligence sharing had been restored but had weapons supply too?

Oh seems they are immediately lifting the block on military aid too, which is fantastic!

PerkingFaintly · 11/03/2025 21:16

Rubio has explicitly said the ball is in the Russians' court.

This is good.

DuncinToffee · 11/03/2025 22:14

Bloomberg: β€œThe UK was heavily involved behind the scenes ahead of the US-Ukraine talks in Saudi, British sources say.
Jonathan Powell worked with Mike Waltz and French and German counterparts on a plan for a truce to begin a peace process.” 1/

β€œAt the weekend Powell met Zelenskiy and Yermak in Kyiv. They produced a written proposal for a β€˜staged process’ to bridge the gap with the US.”2/

β€œIt’s based on:

  • a ceasefire
  • confidence building measures including for an exchange of POWs
  • the release of detained civilians
  • the return of children
  • then negotiations to bring about a just and lasting peace.” 3/

β€œA detailed text was agreed with both US and Ukrainian sides.

Rubio will debrief G7 foreign ministers in Canada. Powell will be in DC on Friday with European colleagues to meet Waltz. Starmer will convene European and Nato leaders on Saturday.” 4/

β€œThe ball is now in Russia’s court, a UK source says. β€œNow Ukraine has made a concrete offer of a ceasefire the ball is firmly in the Russian court. Will they reciprocate and stop the fighting to allow serious negotiations on a lasting peace or will they continue to slaughter innocent civilians?” 5.

https://bsky.app/profile/lauraphillips.bsky.social/post/3lk4ykpylwc2w

MMBaranova · 11/03/2025 22:16

Will just wait and see with this. To his credit Trump has put the ball in Putin's court. A ceasefire has never been something Russia has wanted, but who knows?

Big Ru push still around Sudzha. Still a lot of Trump on Ru social media.

1dayatatime · 11/03/2025 22:51

PerkingFaintly · 11/03/2025 21:16

Rubio has explicitly said the ball is in the Russians' court.

This is good.

I agree plus US intelligence and military support to Ukraine is back on.

Personally I see this as a win win for Ukraine. If Russia agrees to a ceasefire then the deaths of Ukrainian soldiers stops and if Russia refuses the ceasefire then it is clear to the US that Russia is the obstacle and US military aid to Ukraine starts up again

1dayatatime · 11/03/2025 22:55

@MMBaranova

"A ceasefire has never been something Russia has wanted, but who knows?"

Russia would be nuts not to agree to a ceasefire and it would simply turn back on the US military support at full flow.

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