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Ukraine Invasion: Part 55

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MagicFox · 01/03/2025 19:58

We're on 55. Slava Ukraini πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ That last one went quickly!

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blueshoes · 23/03/2025 19:37

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-22-2025

Key Takeaways:

  • US Special Envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff uncritically amplified a number of Russian demands, claims, and justifications regarding the war in Ukraine during an interview on March 21.
  • Vladislav Surkov, a former close adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin, recently reiterated a number of longstanding Kremlin claims and ambitions that directly contradict Witkoff's assertions in an interview with French media aimed at Western audiences.
  • Surkov's statements are consistent with those made by Putin and senior Russian officials, who have recently and repeatedly stated that Russia intends to bring Ukraine under Russian control and establish suzerainty over neighboring countries in order to weaken the West and strengthen Russia's global influence.
  • Witkoff uncritically repeated several inaccurate Russian claims regarding the status of the Ukrainian territories that Russia illegally occupies.
  • Witkoff's statements undermine US President Donald Trump's stated desired end state for the war in Ukraine that achieves an enduring peace and is in the best interests of the United States, Ukraine, and Europe.
  • Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Pokrovsk, and Russian forces recently advanced near Siversk and Pokrovsk and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
  • The Kremlin continues to innovate new ways to leverage conscripts to increase the pool of servicemembers eligible for military service in the future.
blueshoes · 24/03/2025 02:18

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-23-2025

Key Takeaways:

  • US and Ukrainian officials are meeting in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on the evening of March 23 to discuss the contours of the temporary moratorium on long-range strikes and a possible temporary maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea.
  • Unconfirmed reports suggest that there is tension between Russian Central Bank Chairperson Elvira Nabiullina and the Kremlin over Russia's high interest rate and wartime monetary policies.
  • Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Borova, and Russian forces recently advanced near Toretsk and Pokrovsk.
MagicFox · 24/03/2025 09:34

Jd Vance makes my skin crawl but this rhetoric….every time I hear it I’m honestly aghast. But I think it’s time this is taken seriously: https://bsky.app/profile/implausibleblog.bsky.social/post/3ll36ddonjc2w

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DuncinToffee · 24/03/2025 09:58

MagicFox · 24/03/2025 09:34

Jd Vance makes my skin crawl but this rhetoric….every time I hear it I’m honestly aghast. But I think it’s time this is taken seriously: https://bsky.app/profile/implausibleblog.bsky.social/post/3ll36ddonjc2w

His wife is visiting Greenland today

MagicFox · 24/03/2025 10:00

Yes I saw somebody on Twitter make the comment that it had the gross vibe of some sort of colonial visit by an aristocrat’s wife

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MagicFox · 24/03/2025 10:01

Meanwhile, on Russian state tv they’re talking about how they can align with Vance/Trump to carve up Europe between them. This is not the America I know!

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DuncinToffee · 24/03/2025 10:06

Peter Brookes cartoon

Ukraine Invasion: Part 55
Arayofcalm · 24/03/2025 10:16

Mr Egede told newspaper Sermitsiaq: "Every minute counts to ensure that the Americans' dream of annexing our country does not become a reality."
He said, "until recently" they could "safely trust" Washington, but "that time is over".
US leadership, he said, is "completely and utterly indifferent to what we have stood together on so far, because now it is only a matter of them taking over our country over our heads".
He told Greenland's international allies that "hiding in a small corner and almost whispering that they support us has no effect".
"If they do not speak out loudly about how the USA is treating Greenland, the situation will escalate day by day, and the American aggression will increase," he added.

I thought he was quite right about the allies whispering from a corner. They need more vocal and robust support.

notimagain · 24/03/2025 10:29

@Arayofcalm

US leadership, he said, is "completely and utterly indifferent to what we have stood together on so far, because now it is only a matter of them taking over our country over our heads".
He told Greenland's international allies that "hiding in a small corner and almost whispering that they support us has no effect

First they came for Greenland (β€˜cos β€œnational security”)…then they came for Iceland (cos β€œnational security,)………

Certainly some countries need to stop fence sitting and pretending under the surface it’s operations normals and they can still for example make trade deals with the US, thereby avoiding tariffs, etc.

I’ve heard a lot of rhetoric from US politicians over the year and I get how it works but the current administration are something else.

MagicFox · 24/03/2025 10:31

It’s shocking

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DesdamonasHandkerchief · 24/03/2025 10:35

Live:Ukraine

πŸ”Ή UK Prime Minister Was Pressured to Criticize Zelensky-Trump Dispute

β€œOn the day the Oval Office meeting between President Trump and President Zelensky didn’t go particularly well, we were pressured to respond very critically, using, you know, vivid adjectives to describe what others were feeling,” said UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer.

Starmer did not specify whether the pressure came from the American or Ukrainian side. Instead, he said he engaged with both parties to bring them back to a β€œcommon position” and sent his advisor to Kyiv with recommendations on improving relations.

At the same time, the British Prime Minister acknowledged that Trump’s policies had caused β€œsignificant disorientation” and stressed that the right response in such cases is β€œnot to fall for his provocations.”

⚑️ Ukraine Liberates the Village of Nadiya in Luhansk Region

The Third Army Corps has released the first footage of a 30-hour operation that led to the liberation of Nadiya. In total, Ukrainian forces have cleared 3 kmΒ² of Russian occupation.

The capture of Nadiya cost Russian forces two months of efforts and the destruction of two mechanised units.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ U.S. Aims for Ukraine Ceasefire by April 20β€”Easter, But It Remains Unlikely, Bloomberg Reports

The timeline for reaching an agreement may shift due to significant differences between Ukraine and Russia. Moscow is making maximalist demands, raising concerns in Europe that Washington could sacrifice Ukraine’s interests in the process.

European officials also believe that Putin is stalling to extract greater concessions from the U.S. while seeking further battlefield gains for Russia.

πŸ‡­πŸ‡Ί Hungary Vows to Block Ukraine’s EU Accession Until Rights of Transcarpathian Hungarians Are Restored

Hungarian Foreign Minister PΓ©ter SzijjΓ‘rtΓ³ has declared that Hungary will continue blocking Ukraine’s EU membership talks until the rights of the Hungarian minority in Zakarpattia, which were β€œtaken away in 2015,” are reinstated.

β€œThe Ukrainian governmentβ€”despite constant promises and fine wordsβ€”has yet to restore the minority rights stripped from the Hungarian community in 2015. This is unacceptable and completely contradicts European values and common rules. As long as this sad situation continues, there can be no progress in negotiations on Ukraine’s EU accession,” SzijjΓ‘rtΓ³ wrote.

Hungary has previously demanded the restoration of linguistic and political rights for Hungarians in Ukraine, including unrestricted use of the Hungarian language and political representation at both regional and national levels.

πŸ”Έ β€œI simply don’t see that Putin wants to take over all of Europe. I take him at his word. I think Europeans are also coming to this realization,” said Trump’s envoy, Witkoff.

❗️An explosion occurred at a police station in Biliaivka, Odesa region, killing a woman, – National Police.

Police officers and SBU personnel are working at the scene. Details are being clarified.

πŸ”Ή Ukraine has begun a meeting with the American team in Riyadh.

β€œOn the table are, among other things, proposals for the security of energy and infrastructure facilities. Today, we are working on a number of complex technical issuesβ€”our delegation includes energy specialists as well as military representatives from the naval and air components,” said Ukraine’s Defense Minister.

πŸ”Έ β€œThat’s Russia’s opinion.” Witkoff clarifies controversial statement on Putin’s β€œreferendums”

U.S. Special Representative Steve Witkoff has taken a more cautious stance today when discussing Ukraine’s occupied territories. According to him, it is within Russia itself that the belief exists that these areas became Russian after the so-called β€œreferendums.”

β€œI’m not taking any side,” he emphasized.

Previously, in an interview with Tucker Carlson, Witkoff had stated that β€œon Russian-speaking territories, the majority of people expressed their desire to be under Russia’s control.”

πŸ”Ή The U.S. will ask Russia to return Ukrainian children β€œas a confidence-building measure,” said Trump’s National Security Advisor, Michael Waltz.

β€œPresident Trump spoke with both leaders [of Ukraine and Russia] about a prisoner exchange. Both the Russians and Ukrainians exchanged around 200 prisoners immediately after their calls. And he also discussed the future of these children. So, of course, these are primarily confidence-building measures,” Waltz stated.

When asked for clarification on whether the U.S. is requesting the return of Ukrainian children as a trust-building step, Waltz replied, β€œWe are talking about a series of confidence-building measures. This is one of them.”

πŸ”Έ The meeting between the Ukrainian and American delegations in Riyadh has concluded

According to Ukraine’s Defense Minister, the discussion was constructive and substantive, covering key issues, particularly in the energy sector.

❗️Talks Between U.S. and Russian Delegations Begin in Saudi Arabia

The meeting will be closed to the press, as journalists have been asked to leave the premises of the hotel where the negotiations are taking place.

β–ͺ️The day before, a meeting between Ukrainian and U.S. delegations took place in Riyadh. According to Ukraine’s Defense Minister Rustem Umerov, the discussions were productive and focused, covering key issues, including energy.

πŸ”Ή Trump Frustrated by Mutual Attacks Between Russia and Ukraine Despite His β€œPeacekeeping” Efforts – The Telegraph

Citing sources close to the U.S. president, The Telegraph reports that Donald Trump is growing irritated by continued strikes between Russia and Ukraine, which persist despite his attempts to broker peace.

At the same time, some sources suggest that the White House remains calm and advises to β€œtrust the process.”

πŸ”Έ Trump is repeating Kremlin propaganda talking points about Ukraine word for word:
https://t.me/liveukraine_media/29973

notimagain · 24/03/2025 10:42

@DesdamonasHandkerchief

Starmer did not specify whether the pressure came from the American or Ukrainian side.

Colour/color me surprised.

It’s going to take quite some time for the UK PM to get all the splinters out of his backside after all this has calmed down (which hopefully it will).

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 24/03/2025 10:44

Yup, I think we all know where the β€˜pressure’ came from!

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 24/03/2025 10:50

United 24 Media:

πŸ”Ή Dutch Prime Minister Dick Schoof announced that he had spoken with UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer about Ukraine. They emphasized the importance of steadfast support for Ukraine and discussed security guarantees within the framework of the β€œcoalition of the willing.”

β€œReliable security guarantees are a key condition for lasting peace in Ukraine,” Schoof stated, noting the significance of last week’s meeting of military planners. He also highlighted the upcoming meeting in Paris on March 27, hosted by President Macron.

Schoof thanked Starmer for his leadership in recent weeks and underscored that their efforts aim to enhance not only Ukraine’s security but also that of Europe and the Netherlands.

πŸ”Έ Ukrainian teenagers in occupied territories are resisting Russian brainwashing by secretly running a Ukrainian book club, The Guardian reports.

Seventeen-year-old Mariyka (not her real name) and her friends gather in secret to discuss Ukrainian poetry and prose, taking extreme precautions to avoid detection. They close windows, check for eavesdroppers, and meet in small groups of no more than three to reduce the risk of being reported by collaborators.

In the occupied areas, Ukrainian textbooks are labeled β€œextremist,” and possessing them can lead to imprisonment. Parents risk losing custody of their children if they allow them to study the Ukrainian curriculum online. Teens caught speaking Ukrainian at school have even been subjected to intimidation and β€œinterrogations” in the forest by Russian forces.

Finding Ukrainian books is another challenge. After destroying nearly 200,000 Ukrainian publications from local libraries, the occupiers left Mariyka and her friends reliant on e-books, which they delete from their devices after reading to avoid detection during phone or computer checks.

Mariyka’s favorite author is Lesya Ukrainka, who also founded an underground book club in Kyiv in 1888, when Ukrainian culture was suppressed under the Russian Empire.

At school, Mariyka says, β€œThey don’t teach us knowledge, but hatred for other Ukrainians. They’ve removed all Ukrainian symbols and replaced them with portraits of Putin. History lessons focus only on β€˜Greater Russia’ and how it was always under attack.”

The book club, Mariyka explains, is more than a refuge for learningβ€”it’s a way to remind Ukrainians in free territories that some, even under occupation, are still fighting to stay connected to their Ukrainian identity.

πŸ”Ή Poland plans to strengthen its border with Belarus by deploying an additional 1,500 border guards, according to Interior and Administration Minister Tomasz Siemoniak, as reported by RMF24.

The additional forces will focus on areas deemed most vulnerable to illegal migration and hybrid threats. The first 500 guards are set to join patrols this year, with the remaining 1,000 scheduled to begin next year.

πŸ”Έ After his conversation with Defense Minister Umerov, President Zelenskyy mentioned that the meeting between the Ukrainian and US delegations in Saudi Arabia is ongoing.

The president urged the international community to increase pressure on Russia to achieve a genuine ceasefire.

β€œSince March 11, there has been a proposal for an unconditional ceasefire, and such strikes could have stopped by now. But it is Russia that continues all this. Every night, every day, it carries out the most cynical strikes. Without pressure on Russia, they will keep disregarding real diplomacy in Moscow and continue destroying life,” Zelenskyy said.

πŸ”Ή This could be our last peaceful summer. Russia could attack Lithuania as early as this fall, β€” military historian, professor at Potsdam University SΓΆnke Naitzel in an interview with Bild chief reporter Hans-JΓΆrg Felewald.

β€œWe see that the security situation in the world has changed. We see that Russia has announced large-scale exercises in Belarus. We see a strong fear in the Baltic states that during these exercises Russian troops may cross the border,” β€” says Naitzel.

πŸ”Έ β€œWould you go to war for Germany? None of us wants war, but we must prepare for it now,” the German magazine Stern urged in a recent publication.

A similar question was posed to Germans last year by journalists from Focus magazine. The survey yielded telling results: only a third of respondents (32%) said they would β€œtake up arms and actively participate in hostilities,” while the majority (57%) rejected the idea of personal involvement in a potential conflict. (Photo 1)

πŸ”Ή There are currently at least 40 private companies in Ukraine producing ammunition and explosives, said Mykhailo Fedorov, head of the Ministry of Digital Transformation.

He noted that the number of such manufacturers is increasing every month.

πŸ”Έ During the March 20 attack, Ukrainian Defense Forces destroyed infrastructure used for storing X-101 missiles at the Engels airbase, where Russian strategic aviation is stationed, OSINT analysts reported, referencing Maxar satellite images.

The satellite images reveal significant damage to buildings where missiles are prepared for loading onto strategic bombers.

Due to secondary detonations following the strike, analysts are currently unable to determine the exact number of Russian missiles destroyed.

πŸ”Ή Sweden and the Baltic countries believe that no single nation should dictate decisions for the entire EU. This follows Hungary’s recent statement about blocking Ukraine’s path to EU membership, citing alleged β€œoppression of Hungarians in Transcarpathia.”

In response, the Swedish Embassy in Ukraine issued a statement:
β€œHungary should not slow down negotiations on Ukraine’s EU membership. Our Minister for EU Affairs, together with her counterparts from the Northern Baltic countries, has appealed to the European Commission, requesting concrete proposals to advance Ukraine’s accession process.”

Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson also commented, saying, β€œIt is terrible, though not surprising, that Hungary, under Prime Minister Viktor OrbΓ‘n, is obstructing Ukraine’s negotiations with the EU.”

Hungary’s stance has already disrupted two recent EU summits, where it refused to support conclusions emphasizing unwavering EU support for Ukraine. While this impasse is not yet a full crisis, in the long term, it could significantly impact decisions requiring unanimityβ€”particularly on Ukraine’s EU membership.

β€œHungary has practically pledged to halt this process, and it’s terrible,” Kristersson remarked.

πŸ”Έ Special operations forces destroyed four enemy helicopters in Russia's Belgorod region with a HIMARS missile strike, according to a report from the press service. The targeted helicopters included two Ka-52 attack helicopters and two Mi-8 transport helicopters.

Ukraine Invasion: Part 55
Igotjelly · 24/03/2025 10:54

My thing is I appreciate that the US has supported us for years and been there when we’ve needed it but when are we going to rip the plaster off and accept that they are no longer our allies. We’re doing ourselves and our national security a disservice by continuing to fawn over them and over Trump. Even if he can be convinced to support NATO or to act somewhat like a β€œfriend” they’ve been showing to be fundamentally untrustworthy.

NB by they I do not mean decent normal Americans, I mean the administration, MAGA cult and all that support it.

notimagain · 24/03/2025 10:57

@Igotjelly

Regretfully, because I worked with/alongside many fine members of the US military in UK and Europe, albeit a while back, I have to say I agree entirely with your post.

PerkingFaintly · 24/03/2025 11:02

At the same time, the British Prime Minister acknowledged that Trump’s policies had caused β€œsignificant disorientation” and stressed that the right response in such cases is β€œnot to fall for his provocations.”

Blimey, that choice of language!

Shades of
If you can meet with Trump and Putin
And treat those two impostors just the same

Arayofcalm · 24/03/2025 11:23

Igotjelly · 24/03/2025 10:54

My thing is I appreciate that the US has supported us for years and been there when we’ve needed it but when are we going to rip the plaster off and accept that they are no longer our allies. We’re doing ourselves and our national security a disservice by continuing to fawn over them and over Trump. Even if he can be convinced to support NATO or to act somewhat like a β€œfriend” they’ve been showing to be fundamentally untrustworthy.

NB by they I do not mean decent normal Americans, I mean the administration, MAGA cult and all that support it.

I agree with this too.

MagicFox · 24/03/2025 11:23

So do I

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MagicFox · 24/03/2025 11:31

”The American and Russian right are aligning”, The Economist:

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2025.03.23-080821/www.economist.com/united-states/2025/03/20/the-american-and-russian-right-are-aligning" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2025.03.23-080821/www.economist.com/united-states/2025/03/20/the-american-and-russian-right-are-aligning

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Igotjelly · 24/03/2025 12:33

I’m not sure what to make of the rumours about an invasion of Lithuania in the autumn. Given the difficulties Russia has had in Ukraine and the fact that even now they’re only taking tiny amounts to of territory at great cost I just can’t see it. Alongside the fact that normalisation with the US appears to be on the cards, I just can’t see them rocking that particular boat at the moment. Naive of me maybe…

MagicFox · 24/03/2025 12:58

I’m not seeing that rumour. But surely we would be talking about a test of NATO and a proof that article 5 is kaput rather than an invasion. Russia doesn’t have the capacity for the latter, but it excels at the former

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MagicFox · 24/03/2025 12:58

A final reminder of our new thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5300219-ukraine-invasion-part-56?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

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MagicFox · 24/03/2025 12:59

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