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An unholy trinity or just a seedy threesome: Trump, Musk and Putin? - Trump thread #138

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Spandauer · 15/02/2025 20:11

With a side order of Vance, Zuckerberg and Netanyahu.*
(*Other flavours are available)

Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible.
George Orwell

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5258416-trumpmusk-folie-a-deux-trump-thread-137

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notthisoldlineagain · 21/02/2025 20:39

Lalgarh · 21/02/2025 20:04

Wowsers.

There is that saying that everything Trump does makes sense if you think of him as a Russian asset.

And the link to Czech security services via 1st wife Ivana. Remember that the Czechs recruited John Stonehouse MP and are the lot featured in Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy by. John Le Carré

It makes sense.

Nigel Farage appeared on Russia Today

bylinetimes.com/2024/06/19/the-five-questions-nigel-farage-is-never-asked-about-brexit-trump-and-russia/

pentangles · 21/02/2025 20:54

Didn't Farage finally pipe up yesterday, that 'Russia invaded Ukraine'? (BBC).
Concerned about his image in the UK?

Glad he set us straight on that Grin

notthisoldlineagain · 21/02/2025 21:02

pentangles · 21/02/2025 20:54

Didn't Farage finally pipe up yesterday, that 'Russia invaded Ukraine'? (BBC).
Concerned about his image in the UK?

Glad he set us straight on that Grin

He knows the UK won't buy Trump's line on it

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TopPocketFind · 21/02/2025 21:14

The stock market is now below where it was when Joe Biden left office

Spandauer · 21/02/2025 22:22

Some green shoots of discontent and pushback?

talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/inflection-the-backlash-begins-as-elon-goes-wild

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RafaistheKingofClay · 22/02/2025 05:39

He seems to have fired a number of the Joint Chiefs. Including the Chair. That can’t be leading to anything good.

Spandauer · 22/02/2025 08:45

Backing down on the Gaza Riviera? Now it's just his "advice/feels"... not the fact that everyone said NO!

From NYT:

President Trump on Friday appeared to back off his demand that some two million Palestinians be permanently relocated from the Gaza Strip to nearby countries in the Middle East so the United States could take over the territory and develop it into “the Riviera of the Middle East.”

At the time, Mr. Trump said that he would be able to persuade the leaders of those two countries — and potentially others in the region — to accept the Palestinians through the force of his will.
“They say they’re not going to accept,” Mr. Trump said. “I say they will.”
But in a telephone interview with a Fox News host on Friday, Mr. Trump seemed to concede that his efforts at persuasion had failed and the refusal by Egypt and Jordan to accept displaced Gazans would make the idea unworkable.

“Well, we pay Jordan and Egypt billions of dollars a year. And I was a little surprised they’d say that, but they did,” Mr. Trump told the Fox News host Brian Kilmeade before adding: “I’ll tell you, the way to do it is my plan. I think that’s the plan that really works. But I’m not forcing it. I’m just going to sit back and recommend it.”

The comments were a striking reversal for one of the most brazen foreign policy proposals ever made by a sitting president. And they came after weeks of back-and-forth that included several high-ranking Trump administration officials trying to downplay the proposal, followed by the president insisting that he was serious.

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BustingBaoBun · 22/02/2025 09:00

As we know Trump just thinks he has to shout something and it will happen.
I'm stopping the war in Ukraine
I'm going to build a beautiful waterfront real estate in Gaza
Canada will become the 51st state
Gulf of America
Greenland wants to be American
We're taking the Panama Canal

He has no idea what the word diplomacy means and is just opening the door to China and Russia. And he is backtracking on all this shouting
The man's a fool

Igotjelly · 22/02/2025 09:01

RafaistheKingofClay · 22/02/2025 05:39

He seems to have fired a number of the Joint Chiefs. Including the Chair. That can’t be leading to anything good.

This was rumoured for a while to be his plan. Speculation was he’d do it late on a Friday to avoid the media attention.

Spandauer · 22/02/2025 09:35

Igotjelly · 22/02/2025 09:01

This was rumoured for a while to be his plan. Speculation was he’d do it late on a Friday to avoid the media attention.

And not done face to face but by a weasley phone call from Hegseth whilst Brown was away in El Paso.

Fired because of his “woke” focus on diversity, equity and inclusion programs in the military...

Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr., a four-star fighter pilot known as C.Q. who became only the second African American to hold the chairman’s job, is to be replaced by a little-known retired three-star Air Force general, Dan Caine, who endeared himself to the president when they met in Iraq six years ago.

It was a significant reversal for Mr. Trump from 2020, when he nominated General Brown to be the Air Force’s chief of staff. At the time, the president noted the historic significance of his decision to appoint the “first-ever African American military service chief,” writing on social media that the general was “a Patriot and Great Leader.”

From Hegseth
“First of all, you’ve got to fire the chairman of the Joint Chiefs,” Mr. Hegseth said in an appearance on the “Shawn Ryan Show” in November. He added that any general involved with D.E.I. efforts should be fired. “Either you’re in for warfighting, and that’s it,” he said. “That’s the only litmus test we care about."

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SerendipityJane · 22/02/2025 09:50

https://www.rawstory.com/cybertruck-2671168816/

An Atlanta roofer says he's been losing business because of his Cybertruck.
Yoni Menaker, who owns Blue Angel Roofing, claims he lost $70,000 in business last month and has been flooded with bad reviews online due to his electric truck as fallout from Tesla CEO Elon Musk's role in Donald Trump's administration, reported Torque News.

SerendipityJane · 22/02/2025 09:57

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-maine-governor-clash-over-transgender-athletes-2025-02-21/

Why is it always women that stand up to bullies ? Where are the menz?

(In "I never thought it would happen" corner, I find myself missing Mrs. Thatcher.. It's impossible to picture the woman who told Reagan to fuck himself would tolerate a microsecond of Trumps nonsense).

Igotjelly · 22/02/2025 10:00

SerendipityJane · 22/02/2025 09:57

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-maine-governor-clash-over-transgender-athletes-2025-02-21/

Why is it always women that stand up to bullies ? Where are the menz?

(In "I never thought it would happen" corner, I find myself missing Mrs. Thatcher.. It's impossible to picture the woman who told Reagan to fuck himself would tolerate a microsecond of Trumps nonsense).

She was wonderful!

Wallaw · 22/02/2025 10:04

SerendipityJane · 22/02/2025 09:57

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-maine-governor-clash-over-transgender-athletes-2025-02-21/

Why is it always women that stand up to bullies ? Where are the menz?

(In "I never thought it would happen" corner, I find myself missing Mrs. Thatcher.. It's impossible to picture the woman who told Reagan to fuck himself would tolerate a microsecond of Trumps nonsense).

Poor Janet Mills. She has to balance out Susan Collins. No easy task

Spandauer · 22/02/2025 10:07

SerendipityJane · 22/02/2025 09:57

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-maine-governor-clash-over-transgender-athletes-2025-02-21/

Why is it always women that stand up to bullies ? Where are the menz?

(In "I never thought it would happen" corner, I find myself missing Mrs. Thatcher.. It's impossible to picture the woman who told Reagan to fuck himself would tolerate a microsecond of Trumps nonsense).

We may need her (wash my mouth out with soap and water 🤮) if Leon goes after the Falklands.

An unholy trinity or just a seedy threesome: Trump, Musk and Putin? - Trump thread #138
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SerendipityJane · 22/02/2025 10:16

Spandauer · 22/02/2025 10:07

We may need her (wash my mouth out with soap and water 🤮) if Leon goes after the Falklands.

Presumably the Tice and Reform policy is to give them up to "stop the war" ?

Poor old Nige. Imagine going from hero to zero so quickly. One of the reasons why it can be so dangerous difficult and ultimately pointless to meddle in the affairs of countries you know nothing about. Whilst the majority of the UK are unlikely to be sympathetic to returning the Falklands, they are totemic to the extreme right wing for the nostalgia of when (other people in) the UK fought and died for it.

Again, this is an open goal for St. Kemi. One powerhouse blustering speech where she commits the Tories to fighting on this (remember the rules, there doesn't need to have been a threat in order to respond). More blue water between them and a rapidly shaky Reform.

TopPocketFind · 22/02/2025 10:45

https://kyivindependent.com/us-threatens-to-shut-off-starlink-if-ukraine-wont-sign-minerals-deal-sources-tell-reuters/

US threatens to shut off Starlink if Ukraine won't sign minerals deal, sources tell Reuters

Wallaw · 22/02/2025 10:46

TopPocketFind · 22/02/2025 10:45

https://kyivindependent.com/us-threatens-to-shut-off-starlink-if-ukraine-wont-sign-minerals-deal-sources-tell-reuters/

US threatens to shut off Starlink if Ukraine won't sign minerals deal, sources tell Reuters

There is no bottom for this administration. Literally none.

pentangles · 22/02/2025 11:05

Personally I can't quite gaslight myself hard enough to perceive Thatcher or Badenoch as women representative of strong, inclusive values and diversity.

Edit to add, not a partisan comment, I can't believe Labour haven't offered us any suitable women leaders so far, and don't get me started on Reeves, aaagh.

BustingBaoBun · 22/02/2025 11:15

Wallaw · 22/02/2025 10:46

There is no bottom for this administration. Literally none.

This administration seem to think that blackmail and threats are the only way to run a country.

RafaistheKingofClay · 22/02/2025 11:32

BustingBaoBun · 22/02/2025 11:15

This administration seem to think that blackmail and threats are the only way to run a country.

Well when it’s got you this far in life, why not try to run the country that way.

In answer to why it’s always women, it’s probably because they are used to dealing with this kind of behaviour and know how to stand up to it.

Llttledrummergirl · 22/02/2025 11:44

If I was Ukraine, I wouldn't be too concerned about the threat to turn off starlink, I mean Russia seem to have been using it for years despite no access.

It is an utterly despicable way to behave though. ThecTrump administration is abhorrent.

TopPocketFind · 22/02/2025 12:09

Spandauer · 22/02/2025 09:35

And not done face to face but by a weasley phone call from Hegseth whilst Brown was away in El Paso.

Fired because of his “woke” focus on diversity, equity and inclusion programs in the military...

Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr., a four-star fighter pilot known as C.Q. who became only the second African American to hold the chairman’s job, is to be replaced by a little-known retired three-star Air Force general, Dan Caine, who endeared himself to the president when they met in Iraq six years ago.

It was a significant reversal for Mr. Trump from 2020, when he nominated General Brown to be the Air Force’s chief of staff. At the time, the president noted the historic significance of his decision to appoint the “first-ever African American military service chief,” writing on social media that the general was “a Patriot and Great Leader.”

From Hegseth
“First of all, you’ve got to fire the chairman of the Joint Chiefs,” Mr. Hegseth said in an appearance on the “Shawn Ryan Show” in November. He added that any general involved with D.E.I. efforts should be fired. “Either you’re in for warfighting, and that’s it,” he said. “That’s the only litmus test we care about."

As said in a SM post

Side note. There are eight members of the joint chiefs. the chair is black. the CNO (navy) is a woman. the other six are white guys. chair and the cno got fired tonight.

Lalgarh · 22/02/2025 12:56

For all his alleged tough guy positioning, Trump sure does seem naive

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-shades-musk-what-the-f-is-wrong-with-him/

This was a man who used to frequent Studio 54 and who shunned his brother for developing an alcohol problem. And he's not sure why Elon seems so hyperactive?

BustingBaoBun · 22/02/2025 14:46

The Trumper is now shutting down all 8,000 EV charging points at federal buildings.
Why?
They're set up, so it's just pathetic and means both government owned and privately owned EVs are unable to be charged starting next week. I hope this affects Tesla

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