Of course. That's the nature of journalism. But when all you have is an irrelevant RW article not saying what you think to back you up then there's really no point continuing. I'll leave you to your racist hate.
Treetops11 ·
23/12/2024 08:31
And left, liberal newspapers will be pushing a different agenda which is why common sense & critical thinking is key. People make their own minds up.
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Zonder ·
23/12/2024 08:27
Right, so you post an article supposed to be saying one thing. I point out that it doesn't say anything of the sort and actually somehow I'm supposed to know that you posted a different article in a whole different post which really said what the previous article didn't? You're not very good at this debate thing, are you?
Why does it matter if the article is what you call right or left wing if it is reporting the truth?
My issue is that a right wing journal will be banging a right wing drum so is bound to be saying certain things. It doesn't mean it's the truth, or in this specific case it doesn't mean it's even relevant.
I've wasted enough time on your non sequiturs and misplaced articles.
Quoting Zonder
Treetops11 ·
23/12/2024 07:25
Yes that's right & directly underneath that article I posted an article regarding the Swedish prime minister who admits that immigration has not worked out in Sweden! Why does it matter if the article is what you call right or left wing if it is reporting the truth? Much of our media is very left wing with a clear agenda & tries to gloss over the truth.
Quoting Treetops11
Zonder ·
23/12/2024 06:27
Do you read your links before you post them or just the headline? It seems there's that little comprehension issues again. This article is about what a right wing media outlet quote a right wing politician from DENMARK says about Sweden. You know they're two different countries, right? Your links aren't exactly independent, reliable or even saying what you think.
Quoting Efacsen
Treetops11 ·
23/12/2024 00:12
I couldn't give a ballpark figure as I don't want to spread misinformation but there have been many attacks just like the Christmas market one . The Bataclan, the Moscow concert, Arianna Grande concert, the Dublin stabbings, 2018 Berlin Christmas market. 2024 Christmas markets to name but a few...
How many lives lost & changed forever in those atrocities?
Look at Sweden for instance they have admitted multiculturalism has not worked in their country.
https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/denmark-says-swedens-failed-migration-policy-is-to-blame-for-exported-crime/
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Efacsen ·
23/12/2024 00:03
Come on answer the question - what ballpark percentage or number constitutes the 'many' of which you have spoken several times
1% 5% 20% 50%
I'm curious too
Quoting BadgerInDungarees
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 23:58
I have no idea just how many but in my opinion one life lost is too many. I can link all the articles if you like. 5 children were stabbed last Christmas in Dublin ,did you know that ?
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BadgerInDungarees ·
22/12/2024 23:47
Many others? What is many? What percentage of asylum seekers do you think are committing atrocities that you would label it as 'many of the others'. More than 1million asylum seekers applied for asylum for the first time in Europe last year, what percentage of them have gone to on to commit atrocities like this Afd sympathiser? This is why people think you are coming across as racist.
Quoting Zonder
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 23:39
Racist ? Show me my racist views. Stating the obvious & common denominator is not racist. It is the hard facts.
The man who committed these heinous, evil atrocities is exactly the same as many of the others who sought asylum then repaid their host country by murdering & injuring them. It's fact. It's truth. Don't called me racist , I have not brought race into this. The men who carried out the attacks were all from different nationalities who happened to be seeking asylum.
You can't try & silence people pointing out the facts by calling them racist.
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Zonder ·
22/12/2024 23:34
Right. You're the boss. You and your dodgy racist views.
Quoting Zonder
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 23:25
It most certainly is you! Your comprehension has been very selective.
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Zonder ·
22/12/2024 23:22
I didn't ask a direct question in that post. It's not me with the comprehension issues.
Quoting Zonder
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 23:19
Yes English is my mother tongue. I could ask the same about you as your comprehension seems to be a bit vague at times which adds an idiotic element to your posts!
Also @zonder don't forget to add your question mark when asking a question. Punctuation is very important in our English language!
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Zonder ·
22/12/2024 23:16
On the subject of not replying to someone, you didn't reply to my question of whether English is your mother tongue. It doesn't always appear so and that would add an interesting element to your posts.
Quoting BadgerInDungarees
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 23:11
Can you please quote me where I called him a "brown man" as you alleged up thread? This is misinformation you know. I have already asked you. Please find where I said this!
Fact is not anti immigration you know. We should be able to state facts.
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BadgerInDungarees ·
22/12/2024 23:09
It's been a lot more than that over the course of this thread. If you can't see that then maybe you have spent too much time around the type of people this terrorist seemed desperate to belong to and that kind of thing has become normalised to you.
Quoting BadgerInDungarees
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 22:56
It's not anti immigration rhetoric it's pointing out the obvious that many of those who have carried out awful atrocities have been seeking asylum in that country . It is a fact.
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BadgerInDungarees ·
22/12/2024 22:52
Your posts have been riddled with anti immigration rhetoric that the afd and this terrorists mutual tommy robinson would be proud of.
Quoting BadgerInDungarees
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 22:50
I agree that there is many men & women who live very peaceful lives & contribute to their new home countries.
But the man in question like many, many others turned on those & the country who offered him asylum in his time of need. Its not anti immigration rhetoric. It's a fact!
Quoting Treetops11
BadgerInDungarees ·
22/12/2024 22:47
Strange how it doesn't matter who he supports when it is afd, far right anti Muslim terrorists.
Why do all these men who are seeking asylum attack & murder those who welcomed them
There are lots of men who seek asylum who don't hurt anybody. They live peaceful lives contributing greatly to society. There are lots of men who have never claimed asylum anywhere who hurt people and contribute nothing. Perhaps your problem is men in general and you should cool off on the same type of anti immigration rhetoric that the afd use at this sensitive time.
Quoting BadgerInDungarees
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 22:35
Where did I once refer to him as a "brown man"!??? You really are clutching at straws.
It doesn't matter who he supports . He is yet another man who is seeking asylum in a country who attacks, murders & injures hundreds of innocent citizens. Why do all these men who are seeking asylum attack & murder those who welcomed them?
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BadgerInDungarees ·
22/12/2024 22:25
Of course it isn't ridiculous. What's ridiculous is that you cannot move past the fact that the man was a brown man from Saudi Arabia and ditch all of your preconceived notions of what that means. The man supports Afd, he supports the far right, he is anti Muslim and he also carried out a grave terror attack. He is not the first member of the far right to do so.
Quoting BadgerInDungarees
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 22:01
No . So it's ridiculous saying he supported one group. His other predecessors who carried out atrocities are linked to ISIS.
At the end of the day they all have the common denominator of being given shelter & asylum in a country who protected them in their time in need, they repaid their new country & it's citizens by carrying out grave terror attacks murdering & injuring the very ones who welcomed them
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BadgerInDungarees ·
22/12/2024 19:00
Yes he did. I don't think anybody is disputing that?
Quoting BadgerInDungarees
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 18:52
He attacked the country & citizens who gave him asylum & shelter when he needed it like many before him have attacked the innocent people who offered him asylum. End of .
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BadgerInDungarees ·
22/12/2024 09:48
He is anti Muslim. Anti Muslim society like Saudi. He wanted to save women from what he sees as the evil Saudi Muslim country.
How is this so hard for you to grasp?
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Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 09:44
So if he was so anti immigrant why had a website assisting Saudis gain asylum in Germany š¤£š¤£
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BadgerInDungarees ·
22/12/2024 09:42
He was anti Muslim, he against what he saw as the islamaphication of Germany/Europe, he is one of those people who thought Muslims were trying to take over Europe, who thinks Muslims all want Europe to be under Sharia law. His tweets indicated that he wanted to punish Germany for being complicit in what he say as the Islamaphication of Germany.
I understand that some people are having a really hard time wrapping their heads around the fact that their biases instantly went to this is an Islamic terror attack and it appear to be more of a far right anti Muslim attack(he seems to have attacked Germans because he was angry that he thought they were allowing the islamification of Germany, that's why he didn't attack a mosque or another Muslim place). Time will tell if first appearances are true or not but the desperate twisting some people are doing to try and make it fit their biases is really showing them up.
Quoting Workingclasslass
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 09:31
I think with elections coming up in February the media are trying to very quickly paint an image of him as far right & anti immigration .
This absolutely does not add up as he was an immigrant himself & actively helping Saudis gain asylum in Germany , he even had a website to assist them. Doesn't sound very anti immigrants to me.
The media have their own agenda.
Quoting Treetops11
Workingclasslass ·
22/12/2024 09:28
So you know everything before the experts then because they havenāt said that they donāt know the motivations yet and they also said he wasnāt even a Muslim he was an ex Muslim so ended there youāre assuming a lot of stuff because of your narrative
Treetops11 ·
22/12/2024 09:27
Cake with all due respect , you are very repetitive & behaving slightly erratically with your questioning. And I repeat I believe Christians were targeted are he attacked a Christmas market.
3000 Christmas markets take place across Germany annually during the 4 weeks of advent prior to Christmas day on which Christians will celebrate the birth of Christ.
Many , many posters have already told you why they "think' this. Your constant questioning won't sway them towards thinking otherwise. It was a direct attack on Christmas, at Christmas time , at a Christmas market. It could not be more obvious.