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Christmas market attack in Germany tonight😄 article linked

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Treetops11 · 20/12/2024 20:23

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/20/germany-christmas-market-madgeburg
I have attended many Christmas markets over the years. They are so crowded especially at the moment as German children finished school for the Christmas holidays. Frightening, my prayers are with all the victim's šŸ™

One killed and scores reportedly injured after car drives into German Christmas market – latest updates

Driver arrested after incident in Magdeburg, west of Berlin, according to media reports

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/20/germany-christmas-market-madgeburg

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Scirocco · 23/12/2024 10:25

Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:22

So as he was ramming people with the car through he was shouting ' every thing ok with you?'

lol

That's not what I said. I've said what some words mean and what the voice shouting appears to be saying in the video.

Efacsen · 23/12/2024 10:27

Scirocco · 23/12/2024 10:13

As someone who speaks several languages including Arabic and German...

Aloo is potato.

Allahu Akbar means God is Great.

The voice shouting appears to be saying "Alles klar".

Does it not also have a wider colloquial meaning - like 'Thank God' in English?

Scirocco · 23/12/2024 10:28

Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:12

Wonderful bit of gas lighting there.

lets ignore the concrete bollards that have been placed around the Christmas markets - just art work...

We have concrete bollards around pedestrian areas for safety, not solely from terrorist attacks but from accidents too.

Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:32

PeasfullPerson · 23/12/2024 09:52

??

Do you need help?

Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:33

Scirocco · 23/12/2024 10:28

We have concrete bollards around pedestrian areas for safety, not solely from terrorist attacks but from accidents too.

No. No we do not.

Why the armed police then?

katter · 23/12/2024 10:34

Efacsen · 23/12/2024 10:27

Does it not also have a wider colloquial meaning - like 'Thank God' in English?

Not really no.

Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:34

The minimising and gas lighting on this thread is appalling.

This is exactly the reason why people are moving towards hard right political parties.

Scirocco · 23/12/2024 10:35

Efacsen · 23/12/2024 10:27

Does it not also have a wider colloquial meaning - like 'Thank God' in English?

Allahu Akbar is a widely used phrase in conversation, as are phrases like Alhamdulillah, JazakAllah, MashaAllah, SubhanAllah, etc. It can be used in multiple ways - as a celebration, at a time of grief or struggle, in a time of uncertainty... So, it can be used in the expression of a variety of concepts and emotions.

PeasfullPerson · 23/12/2024 10:40

Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:33

No. No we do not.

Why the armed police then?

It’s good to take sensible precautions, it’s good to look into why this happened and take action, that is not the same as using what happened to justify racism and spread hysteria.

Efacsen · 23/12/2024 10:40

We don't want facts here @DuncinToffee !! Give us more twitter spats!! And unhinged emoting on SM

Treetops11 · 23/12/2024 10:42

Efacsen · 23/12/2024 10:40

We don't want facts here @DuncinToffee !! Give us more twitter spats!! And unhinged emoting on SM

Well at the moment we are all supposed to believe alleged "twitter posts" from the mainstream media who always refer to twitter as a hotbed of misinformation!
The critical thinkers ain't buying it!

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pointythings · 23/12/2024 10:43

Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:33

No. No we do not.

Why the armed police then?

Police in Germany are always armed. It's pretty normal in much of Europe.

pointythings · 23/12/2024 10:45

Scirocco · 23/12/2024 10:35

Allahu Akbar is a widely used phrase in conversation, as are phrases like Alhamdulillah, JazakAllah, MashaAllah, SubhanAllah, etc. It can be used in multiple ways - as a celebration, at a time of grief or struggle, in a time of uncertainty... So, it can be used in the expression of a variety of concepts and emotions.

Much like its Christianity derived equivalents, in fact. And in any case it is not what the attacker said.

Treetops11 · 23/12/2024 10:46

katter · 23/12/2024 09:44

It's a different threat.
This guy wanted to go to a different christmas marked armes with knifes.
Bloddy weirdo!

Oh no Klatter, I'm sorry to hear that . Hopefully it is just a weirdo but I'm sure the German authorities will be taking it seriously.
I was just reading security is really tightening up ahead of New Yeas across Europe so I'm sure authorities will be following all leads.

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Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:46

Scirocco · 23/12/2024 10:35

Allahu Akbar is a widely used phrase in conversation, as are phrases like Alhamdulillah, JazakAllah, MashaAllah, SubhanAllah, etc. It can be used in multiple ways - as a celebration, at a time of grief or struggle, in a time of uncertainty... So, it can be used in the expression of a variety of concepts and emotions.

And usually shouted just before some one is about to murder several people

Efacsen · 23/12/2024 10:46

Treetops11 · 23/12/2024 10:42

Well at the moment we are all supposed to believe alleged "twitter posts" from the mainstream media who always refer to twitter as a hotbed of misinformation!
The critical thinkers ain't buying it!

Irony

Well you show us time and time again your 'lack of critical thinking'

Most recent example being you promoting a twitter spat as evidence of islamic terrorism

I rest my case

Treetops11 · 23/12/2024 10:47

Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 09:55

allahu akbar is now a slur? A slur to who? White liberals Lol

You know it means God is greater? It will never be a slur to Muslims

Yep this poster is so clueless & uninformed Allahu Akbar is a slur! Absolute ignorance.

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Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:47

pointythings · 23/12/2024 10:43

Police in Germany are always armed. It's pretty normal in much of Europe.

We are in the U.K where its not normal AT ALL.

Stop gaslighting

Treetops11 · 23/12/2024 10:51

Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:47

We are in the U.K where its not normal AT ALL.

Stop gaslighting

@pointythings is absolutely clueless. She said that Allahu Akbar is a slur! What ignorance towards Muslim people who consider it a very sacred blessing. Spreading misinformation.

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DuncinToffee · 23/12/2024 10:53

Treetops11 · 23/12/2024 10:51

@pointythings is absolutely clueless. She said that Allahu Akbar is a slur! What ignorance towards Muslim people who consider it a very sacred blessing. Spreading misinformation.

She didn't, she pointed out that using th word 'Aloo' instead of 'Allahu' was

Good to see you managed to google the right word, will be helpful with your asylum claim

katter · 23/12/2024 10:54

Einaldilastcup · 23/12/2024 10:34

The minimising and gas lighting on this thread is appalling.

This is exactly the reason why people are moving towards hard right political parties.

Oh FFS just because some people are trying to have a nuanced debate it doesn't mean we will be inviting pillaging hordes of muslim radicals into the country.
A known supporter of a right-wing party anti-muslim has claimed so many victims and the first thing people can come up with is spouting right-wing and anti-muslim rhetoric
That's insane.

Treetops11 · 23/12/2024 10:56

DuncinToffee · 23/12/2024 10:53

She didn't, she pointed out that using th word 'Aloo' instead of 'Allahu' was

Good to see you managed to google the right word, will be helpful with your asylum claim

No she snidely corrected the ops spelling & said the phrase was a slur! Stop trying to twist her ignorant , misinformed post. Let's hope the poster educated herself.

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Treetops11 · 23/12/2024 10:57

katter · 23/12/2024 10:54

Oh FFS just because some people are trying to have a nuanced debate it doesn't mean we will be inviting pillaging hordes of muslim radicals into the country.
A known supporter of a right-wing party anti-muslim has claimed so many victims and the first thing people can come up with is spouting right-wing and anti-muslim rhetoric
That's insane.

I have liked a number of posts & shared posts belonging to the Green Party , I am not a supporter but some of their proposals I approved of. The same with other political parties. Was this man a member of said party?

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cakeorwine · 23/12/2024 10:59

Treetops11 · 23/12/2024 08:56

No attempt to shut down debate. I completely understand how people become radicalised but don't say "their reasons".
There is no excuse for senseless killing . I think much more work needs to be done on a community level to report people of interest who may be linked to any extremist group or cause . What happened in Germany must not be allowed happen again.

Why not say "their reasons"

You got upset and accused people of trying to shut you down.
But then you try to tell others what to say.

The IRA had their reasons. ISIS have their reasons. Other terrorist groups have their reasons.

You may or may not agree with a terrorist groups reasons. And in some people's minds, they wouldn't describe these groups as terrorists.

People can justify any kind of awful action and can give themselves a reason why they did it.

Radicalisation is a massive part of that. I think that some of the posts on here could help build a picture in some people's minds of them and us, cause division and potentially help radicalise someone to hate another group.

We need to ask ourselves who can be radicalised, what does radicalisation look like and how are people radicalised - and what then leads them to commit acts of terror.

I think that there are people on many sides of debates being radicalised now, and they probably don't even know they are being radicalised.

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