Christmas market attack in Germany tonight😥 article linked

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/20/germany-christmas-market-madgeburg
I have attended many Christmas markets over the years. They are so crowded especially at the moment as German children finished school for the Christmas holidays. Frightening, my prayers are with all the victim's 🙏

He didn't support Hamas, some tweet where he was basically telling someone if you love Hamas so much then go live in Gaza and see how they treat you has been misconstrued as him supporting Hamas.

About him being an AFD supporter.

Ah thank you - that's the one that made no sense to me

Shameful that some people are using this attack to further their political views, regardless of what the actual truth may be and with no regard to the victims.

Regardless of reported motivations, which basically "hearsay" the Police would be mad to just take on face value tweets etc
They need to look at all his relationships contacts and internet usage, with an open mind, something lacking on this thread!!

More worrying is the reports that the Saudi's told them of his extremism but the German Police didn't act.... lets hope these are incorrect.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people#:~:text=This%20study%20found%20that%20modern,greater%20degree%20of%20indigenous%20origin.
This explains English which is an ethnicity here. No idea why this is supposed to be racist. Of course Britain would be a totally different place if it was full of Chinese people or any other ethnicity. We are not US and until 50 years ago England was almost totally white and there was virtually no immigration or emigration, indeed that was the case when I was a child in the 70s.

you are very repetitive
and I repeat

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From your link, @Menopausalsourpuss :

A landmark 2022 study titled "The Anglo-Saxon migration and the formation of the early English gene pool", found the English to be of plurality Anglo-Saxon-like ancestry, with heavy native Celtic Briton, and newly confirmed medieval French admixture. Significant regional variation was also observed.[51]

So as far back as the Anglo-Saxons, the English were basically moggies with a diverse genetic and ethnic input. That hasn't changed, has it?

He attacked the country & citizens who gave him asylum & shelter when he needed it like many before him have attacked the innocent people who offered him asylum. End of .

If they have an English parent then they may say English ancestry. But if you don’t have English blood (as I do not) then you should refrain from calling yourself English and I find in fact most tend to call themselves British in this category

This is sophistry. You can deconstruct literally any ethnicity this way. Are you going to say Japanese aren’t a real identity, that they are just Koreans with a slight Jomon admixture?

Is this really where you want to go with this stuff?

Yes he did. I don't think anybody is disputing that?

Exactly . Like females in UK &other societies are forced to have males infiltrating their safe private spaces like our female only toilets, changing rooms, girls sports teams & prisons. Us female are oppressed by gender recognition acts where we are forced to accept males dominating our female only spaces during to their ideology.

Not in the least, I'm just pointing out that ethnicity is not as simple as a matter of who was born where, and that using it that way is deeply divisive because it leads to delusions of superiority.

It doesn't matter what he was or wasn't.

This man like many others who planned or carried out evil atrocities was seeking asylum in a country but attacked the very country and murdered & maimed hundreds of the civilians who offered him safety & shelter. He is no different from any of the others who savagely attacked those who gave them safety.

At the end of the day all extremism is dangerous.

Whether that is wanting a caliphate or to present Muslims in a way that suggests they are so different to us that they do not possess normal human emotions.

Promoting division and hate leads to death and violence every single time.

Like all the other hate filled extremists who attack the country & citizens who offer them refuge & a safe abode in their time of need. The exact same as all the others.

Best post on here in a nutshell. When you move to a country you must adapt to that countries lifestyle & way of life. You cannot expect a culture to change to accommodate your views.

So you are now saying that you do understand why someone might want to flee a rich, democratic country where most people feel safe because they don't feel safe themselves?

How do you know someone has English blood in them?

I think he adapted perfectly - the AfD ethos is about as nativist white German as you can get...

Well seeing as you mention Nigeria ,it's worth noting they have banned foreign models from their ads. I agree it's their country ,they are right to hire what they want.. if the UK did this there would be uproar saying the country is racist!

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/11/1122286865/nigeria-is-banning-foreign-actors-and-models-from-its-ads-as-of-oct-1

Well, it is dodgy. But given that Nigeria is a former colony, I can also see why they would want to do this. I don't think it's a great idea, I think it may cost them in terms of international contracts, but if they want to do something racist and misguided - well, sovereignty.

It does matter to state facts and to not state misinformation

It matters when people go on to use his actions to justify their hatred of and prejudice against Muslims. It matters because ordinary people who are Muslim or who are from other minorities experience real life consequences from this.