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Ukraine Invasion: Part 44

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MagicFox · 20/08/2023 12:43

44th thread, all the usual thanks and appreciation

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MissConductUS · 06/09/2023 00:26

The cauldron idea is a pipe dream. The Russians don't have the combat power available in that sector to do so, nor the ability to maneuver unobserved.

Their whole doctrine is based on having a massive advantage in artillery. They've lost that in this sector.

Errolwasahero · 06/09/2023 07:30

DancesWithDucks · 05/09/2023 22:43

@Errolwasahero But you're offduty here! :)

I am! Only bother with it if I’m being paid 😅

A big thank you to all of you (including @MissConducUS with or without a ‘t’) who are doing all this for us with no payment. You are amazing.

blueshoes · 06/09/2023 10:45

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-5-2023

Key Takeaways:

  • Ukrainian forces continue to advance in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
  • Russian sources continue to complain that Russian forces lack sufficient counterbattery capabilities and artillery munitions in the face of ongoing Ukrainian counteroffensive activities, which the Kremlin and the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) are reportedly attempting to combat.
  • Ukrainian counteroffensive operations in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area are likely succeeding in pinning elements of the 7th Guards Mountain Airborne (VDV) Division and preventing them from laterally redeploying to critical areas of the front in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
  • Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reiterated boilerplate rhetoric intended to dismiss recent Ukrainian advances and highlight the beginning of a new academic year for Russian military institutions during a meeting with Russian military leadership on September 5.
  • Russian President Vladimir Putin drew historical parallels between Soviet participation in the Second World War and the current war in Ukraine to set ideological expectations for a prolonged war effort.
  • The Armenian government appears to be seriously questioning its decades-long security relationship with Russia, amid reports of Armenian humanitarian aid to Ukraine and increasing public dissatisfaction with Russia’s security guarantees.
  • Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, in the western Donetsk-eastern Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and advanced in some areas on September 5.
  • Ukrainian forces conducted offensive operations in at least two sectors of the front and advanced near Bakhmut, in the western Donetsk-eastern Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast on September 5.
  • Russian sources continue to report on Russian efforts to recruit volunteers amid continued rumors of general mobilization.
  • The Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) reportedly attempted to assassinate a Russian occupation official in occupied Luhansk Oblast on September 5.
Ukraine Invasion: Part 44
BezMills · 06/09/2023 10:49

Reporting From Ukraine, linked above in my previous posts, has a detailed take on the Robotyne Vernove Novoprokopivka axis. Indicates the hill 1066 or whatnot was taken and is well defended by UAF

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2023 11:20

Looting of business being reported in Tokmak today. As are explosions.

DancesWithDucks · 06/09/2023 11:22

BezMills · 06/09/2023 10:49

Reporting From Ukraine, linked above in my previous posts, has a detailed take on the Robotyne Vernove Novoprokopivka axis. Indicates the hill 1066 or whatnot was taken and is well defended by UAF

Good!

There are more rumours of another Russian mobilization swirling more thickly now

DancesWithDucks · 06/09/2023 13:22

Kyiv Independent Telegram

⚡️ Commander: Russian forces preparing to 'take revenge' on eastern front.
https://kyivindependent.com/syrskyi/ The situation on the eastern front remains difficult as Russian forces seek to gain the initiative and "take revenge" on Ukrainian troops, General Oleksandr Syrskyi said on Sept. 6, as reported by the Military Media Center

⚡️ Ukraine's parliament approves https://kyivindependent.com/verkhovna-rada-dismisses-reznikov-as-defense-minister/ Reznikov's resignation as defense minister.

⚡️Zelensky nominates https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-requests-parliament-to-appoint-umerov-as-defense-minister/ Umerov as defense minister.

⚡️ Parliament approves Rustem Umerov as new defense minister. kyivindependent.com/parliament-approves-rustem-umerov-as-new-defense-minister/

U.S. State Secretary Antony Blinken has arrived in Kyiv on an official visit, Suspilne News reported on Sept. 6, citing sources in President Volodymyr Zelensky's office. https://kyivindependent.com/media-us-state-secretary-blinken-arrives-in-kyiv/

⚡️Germany sends https://kyivindependent.com/germany-delivers-new-batch-of-gepard-anti-aircraft-ammunition/ ammo for Gepard anti-aircraft guns to Ukraine.
Germany has delivered to Ukraine its first batch of ammunition for Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft guns out of a total of 300,000 rounds.

⚡️ Germany delivers https://kyivindependent.com/germany-delivers-ammunition-and-vehicles-to-ukraine-in-latest-military-aid-package/**ammunition and vehicles to Ukraine in latest military aid package.

President Volodymyr Zelensky on Sept. 5 issued a decree to fire Pavlo Kyrylenko, governor of Donetsk Oblast. https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-fires-governor-of-donetsk-oblast/

New research published by Ukraine's Center for Economic Strategy (CES) revealed that the number of Ukrainian refugees living abroad due to the war increased by around 500,000 people during the first half of 2023. https://kyivindependent.com/number-of-ukrainian-refugees-living-abroad-increased-by-500-000-during-first-half-of-2023/

U.K. Defense Secretary Grant Shapps confirmed for Sky News on Sept. 6 that a British-made Challenger 2 tank in service with the Ukrainian military had been destroyed by Russian artillery. London does not plan to replace the vehicle. https://kyivindependent.com/uk-defense-secretary-confirms-challenger-2-tank-destroyed-in-ukraine/

⚡️Deputy PM: Ukraine will be ready https://kyivindependent.com/deputy-pm-ukraine-will-be-ready-for-eu-membership-in-2-years/ for EU membership in 2 years.

Ukraine will be ready for European Union membership in two years and for NATO membership even earlier, Olha Stefanishyna, the deputy prime minister for European integration, said in a Sept. 5 interview with the Voice of America.

Ukraine's Defense Ministry has ordered 55 HAWK drones from a company partly owned by the wife of former MP Boryslav Rozenblat, despite the drones having clear defects, investigative outlet Bihus.info reported on Sept. 4. https://kyivindependent.com/media-defense-ministry-procured-substandard-drones-from-company-owned-by-former-mps-wife/

⚡️ Cuba uncovers https://kyivindependent.com/cuba-uncovers-war-trafficking-ring-for-russia-in-ukraine/ human trafficking ring for Russian military recruitment.
Cuba has uncovered a human trafficking ring aimed at recruiting Cuban citizens to fight for Russia, the Cuban Foreign Affairs Ministry said on Sept. 4.

⚡️Parliament approves restoring asset declarations for officials in second reading.
Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada on Sept. 5 approved the second reading of a bill to restore asset declarations for officials. However, the parliament failed to make such declarations public, which implies that they cannot be accessed by media and anti-corruption watchdogs.

⚡️Watchdogs, MPs say EU, IMF won't accept https://kyivindependent.com/parliament-approved-restoring-asset-declarations-for-officials-in-second-reading/ asset declaration bill.
Restoring asset declarations has been central to talks on Ukraine's accession to the European Union and borrowing money from the International Monetary Fund. Anti-corruption watchdogs and opposition MPs argue that the EU and IMF are unlikely to accept the bill in this form.

Ukrainians evading conscription abroad may be extradited "individually" but there will be no "mass extradition," Fedir Venislavsky, President Voldymyr Zelensky's representative in the Verkhovna Rada, said on Sept. 5. https://kyivindependent.com/official-there-will-be-no-mass-extradition-of-draft-evaders-from-abroad/

Ukraine Invasion: Part 44
notimagain · 06/09/2023 13:35

U.K. Defense Secretary Grant Shapps confirmed for Sky News on Sept. 6 that a British-made Challenger 2 tank in service with the Ukrainian military had been destroyed by Russian artillery. London does not plan to replace the vehicle

The good news is it seems the crew survived, the bad news for fans of detail and those that like Ministers to be on top of their brief is that the Secretary of State has made repeated claims (in the article and also on broadcast media that)

".....all six crew members have survived."

DancesWithDucks · 06/09/2023 13:44

UNITED24 Media Telegram

The Olympic and Paraolympic committees from Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Iceland have issued a joint statement, demanding the International Olympic Committee bans all Russian athletes from the Paris Olympics.

Denmark's Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen arrived in Kyiv, she is currently speaking in the Verkhovna Rada

Blinken noted that Washington sees the progress of the Ukrainian counteroffensive, and the United States will make sure that Ukraine has the necessary assistance both now and in the long term.

Putin's general Sergei Surovikin, detained after the mutiny of the Wagner PMC, was released a few days after the death of the Prigozhin, writes The New York Times, citing sources in American officials and a person close to the Russian MoD. According to the NYT's source, the general still retains his rank and formally still serves in the army, but he has "no more career prospects".

Mercedes-Benz donated 100 Zetros all-terrain vehicles to Ukraine and provided driver training

Britain will transfer Scimitar reconnaissance armored vehicles to Ukraine, — Rheinmetall BAE Systems Land

Belgium has decided not to supply Ukraine with decommissioned F-16 fighters because these aircraft are considered too worn out and would be in an unusable condition for service after their use in Belgium.

The European Defense Agency (EDA) has announced the signing of the first eight contracts with manufacturers for the joint procurement of 155-mm ammunition, according to the EDA press service.
These contracts are related to ammunition designed for the most widely used self-propelled howitzers that European Union member states have provided to Ukraine. These include the French Caesar, the Polish Krab, the German Panzerhaubitze 2000, and the Slovak Zuzana howitzers.

📞 A source in Ukrainian intelligence shared with Reuters interceptions of 17 phone calls from Russian soldiers.
The soldiers complain of heavy losses, lack of ammunition, proper training and equipment, and low morale. One soldier said that his unit was able to advance, but at a high cost. He said the second battalion was destroyed. Another soldier said that his comrades were thrown into the front lines without training. As a result, they died.

Armenia has announced plans to conduct joint military exercises with the United States in September. The Armenian Defense Ministry has indicated that these exercises, scheduled for September 11 to 20, will focus on the "implementation of stabilization tasks between the conflicting parties during a peacekeeping mission." The announcement has raised concerns from the Kremlin.

Ukraine has initiated the reexamination of the terrorist attack in Olenivka at the international level, according to the Coordination Headquarters for the Treatment of Prisoners of War.
The materials from Ukraine's extensive investigation have been presented to the UN Independent International Commission for the Investigation of Violations in Ukraine.

In the Pacific Ocean, sharks attacked the catamaran of the round-the-world expedition of the "Russian Geographical Society," Russian media reported.
The catamaran was damaged and sank, the crew managed to be saved by a vessel that was passing nearby.

🤦‍♀️ Putin said that President Zelenskyy is protecting those who "led the Holocaust" in Ukraine.
"Western curators put an ethnic Jew at the head of modern Ukraine, and in this way they cover up the anti-human essence, which is the basis of the modern Ukrainian state.
An ethnic Jew covers up the glorification of Nazism and those who led the Holocaust in (in) Ukraine," the war criminal and the president of the Russian Federation claims.

It has been reported that Maria Vorontsova, the daughter of Vladimir Putin, continues to publish articles in scientific journals in the United States and Switzerland despite Western sanctions, as detailed in the publication "We Can Explain."
Her articles primarily focus on endocrinology and medicine and have been published by reputable publishers such as The Endocrine Society and MDPI Publishing. The report states that between 2022 and 2023, four articles authored by Vorontsova were published.
It's important to note that Maria Vorontsova has been subject to sanctions imposed by the United States, the European Union, and the United Kingdom since April 2022.

PMC "Wagner" will be declared a terrorist organization in the country by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Great Britain

Like their peers in dozens of countries, Russian students go back to school in September, but this year they will deal with a new curriculum which is more about camo and guns.

A Ukrainian father with his son Bohdan

Ukraine created its own analogue of ATACMS and Taurus, — Newsweek.

It has been reported that 16 people were killed as a result of a Russian strike on Konstiantynivka, according to Radio Svoboda.

Ukraine Invasion: Part 44
Ukraine Invasion: Part 44
Ukraine Invasion: Part 44
MMBaranova · 06/09/2023 14:00

Elsewhere in Ukraine.

I asked an aunt if she could point me towards anyone in a different area of Ukraine to chat with. A friend of hers in Chernihiv was interested. NNE of Kyiv, keep going and you'll get to Belarus. Just above the Chernobyl level but on the other side from the water. Not somewhere I have been.

We got into what art and culture mean in wartime and then this (might need to click to expand):

Ukraine Invasion: Part 44
DancesWithDucks · 06/09/2023 14:04

Live: Ukraine Telegram

🇷🇴The wreckage of a Russian drone was found in the Plauru area of Tulcea county after the September 6 Russian attack on Odesa region
Romanian Defense Minister Angel Tilvar confirms (https://www.antena3.ro/) to CNN that the drone crashed in Romania

✍️ President Zelensky signed a law on changes to the administrative and territorial structure of Crimea.
The law provides for a new district division, according to which the Cabinet of Ministers will approve territorial communities and later establish military administrations there. The law also concerns the decommunization of the peninsula.

Pavlo Kyrylenko, former head of the Donetsk Regional Military Administration, was appointed head of the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine

🇦🇲 For the first time, Armenia has handed over humanitarian aid to Ukraine, Radio Azatutyun reports.
It is not yet known what kind of aid and in what amount. Yerevan will officially announce it in the near future. [They are also planning work with the US for the first time. The Kremlin is annoyed].

🤡Russophobia and neo-Nazism have become the norm in Ukraine and the Baltic states - Putin

On this day, exactly one year ago, the Kharkiv Counter-Offensive began, one of the best military operations in world history.
In less than a week, the Defense Forces liberated 6,000 square kilometers and liberated about 500 settlements.

Maxar satellite imagery from the Engels airbase shows Tu-95 strategic bombers with car tires on top of the fuselage. [excellent pic]

GeoConfirmed OSINT analysts have identified the location of the Russian drone detonation in Romania - a point in the field with coordinates 45.328864, 28.803601. The Romanian border village of Plauru is located less than one and a half kilometers from this location.

Perhaps car tires should be used to protect the Kremlin as well?

Ukraine Invasion: Part 44
Ukraine Invasion: Part 44
Ukraine Invasion: Part 44
DancesWithDucks · 06/09/2023 14:08

@MMBaranova God, life sounds impossibly hard. There must be people going hungry - and autumn is coming 😥

MMBaranova · 06/09/2023 14:18

Destruction taking things back to the 90s made me think. The long term scars, of all sorts, are not going to heal.

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 06/09/2023 14:29

Russophobia has become the norm in Ukraine and the Baltic states, has it? Yeah, raping, torturing and murdering men, women and children does tend to make people dislike you. I'd go further and say it's become the norm in the entire civilised world.

MagicFox · 06/09/2023 16:42

UK to declare Wagner a terrorise organisation and all trace of Surovikin removed from the RU MoD website: x.com/michaelh992/status/1699337692582953261?s=46&t=ZRiOqYBPJdwGCarjKNzCeQ

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MissConducUS · 06/09/2023 16:53

notimagain · 06/09/2023 13:35

U.K. Defense Secretary Grant Shapps confirmed for Sky News on Sept. 6 that a British-made Challenger 2 tank in service with the Ukrainian military had been destroyed by Russian artillery. London does not plan to replace the vehicle

The good news is it seems the crew survived, the bad news for fans of detail and those that like Ministers to be on top of their brief is that the Secretary of State has made repeated claims (in the article and also on broadcast media that)

".....all six crew members have survived."

Grant has them confused with the Leprechaun Cavalry. What a shame he never served in the military. If he had, he'd know that unit was decommissioned ages ago.

MagicFox · 06/09/2023 16:55

Grant makes me depressed, it's such a shame/shambles

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minsmum · 06/09/2023 17:35

Reading further down that thread Pashinyan has asked parliament to ratify the Rome statute if the international court which commits them to arresting Putin if he turns up there

MissConducUS · 06/09/2023 19:20

MagicFox · 06/09/2023 16:55

Grant makes me depressed, it's such a shame/shambles

It's embarrassing, init? There's an old saying in the army that the only thing that strikes fear in the heart of a good soldier is working for someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

Hopefully, this incident has convinced him of the wisdom of the Abraham Lincoln quote, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.".

PerkingFaintly · 06/09/2023 19:34

MissConducUS · 06/09/2023 19:20

It's embarrassing, init? There's an old saying in the army that the only thing that strikes fear in the heart of a good soldier is working for someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

Hopefully, this incident has convinced him of the wisdom of the Abraham Lincoln quote, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.".

You clearly haven't come across Shapps before, if you still harbour that hope... Sad

He's an idiot's idiot.

Seychal · 06/09/2023 20:23

The UK Cabinet is a reasonably sized social media presence with a very small government attached.

RedToothBrush · 06/09/2023 23:02

Ukrainian progress along the trench system near Verbove in both directions.

Russian sources are reporting heavy battles are reported in the NorthWest outskirts of Verbove itself.

DancesWithDucks · 06/09/2023 23:16

Reports that this is the latest US package following Anthony Blinkin's visit to Kyiv.

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DancesWithDucks · 06/09/2023 23:44

From

Peter Clifford Online

#Ukraine: Today’s newest updates from #UkraineWar: 1. UA continues to advance on the flanks of #Bakhmut & is reported to control 80% of #Klishchiivka with RU troops clinging to a few remaining houses in eastern sector.

  1. S of #Bakhmut UA forces destroyed several RU logistics vehicles & assault groups, as well as destroying an RU armoured car with an FPV drone.
  1. A large RU ammo depot storing 9K121 “Vikhr” guided missiles, was discovered & destroyed nr occupied #Myonivskyi, #Donetsk region, by UA forces using HIMARS missiles.
  1. UA have taken new positions nr #Verbove, clearing many sections of the RU trench system & advanced nr #Novoprokopivka S of #Robotyne. UA also annihilated this RU 240 self-propelled mortar, with kamikaze drones. https://twitter.com/alfaiomi/status/1699472651322794008?s=61&t=v3fF5uRBfgWayz6ECB-z9Q
  1. At least 49 RU VDV paratroopers of 7th Guards Mountain Airborne Division were reported killed in 1 day of fighting nr #Staromaiorske with RU Command failing to retrieve the bodies according to reports from RU sources.
  1. #UK government is proscribing Wagner group as a terrorist organisation on a par with ISIS & Al-Qaeda. It will be a criminal offence to belong, attend meetings, encourage or support Wagner & contravention can carry jail terms of up to 14 years.
  1. #US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken made his 4th visit to #Kyiv today, visiting Berkovets cemetery with UA Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba & announcing a new aid package for UA for arms worth $1 billion. He also met Patron the mine detecting dog!

The new #US aid package is to include HIMARS launchers, Abrams tanks, air defence systems & for the first time uranium depleted shells. [I think he means ammunition for HIMARS and the Abrams etc, not actual new HIMARs and tanks!]

  1. In a vicious attack on the town of #Kostyantynivka, 30km W of #Bakhmut, & mainly RU speaking, during market day, 17 were killed including 1 child & 32 injured at the last count.
  1. Mette Frederiksen, PM of #Denmark was also in #Kyiv today promising to provide $43 million for reconstruction & humanitarian aid.
  1. UA company Cosmolot has transferred 1st 15 “Punisher” drones to UA forces out of a total of 50 to come. The main feature of the drone is that it is resistant to RU electronic warfare. #France’s Delair also sending 150 drones to UA

12. #Germany has prosecuted a high-ranking German intelligence officer for treason & passing state secrets to Russia, including info on Wagner & Ukraine in return for 400,000 euros. He & another man face life sentences.

Ukraine Invasion: Part 44
Ukraine Invasion: Part 44