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Thread 21. Sunak. How many more will be deserting the sinking ship?

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Roussette · 08/03/2023 09:10

Here we go. Previous thread.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4735780-thread-21-sunak-return-of-the-numpties?page=20&reply=124466839

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DuncinToffee · 22/03/2023 15:21

I haven't seen any details yet.

Notonthestairs · 22/03/2023 15:22

Here's all the Conservative MPs who voted with Boris Johnson against Rishi Sunak's new Brexit deal.

twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1638559732658057230?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

48 didn't record a vote.

Notonthestairs · 22/03/2023 15:24

A rather withered group.

Will be interesting to see the names of those that dodged committing themselves.

Roussette · 22/03/2023 15:26

Notonthestairs · 22/03/2023 15:22

Here's all the Conservative MPs who voted with Boris Johnson against Rishi Sunak's new Brexit deal.

twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1638559732658057230?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

48 didn't record a vote.

Do you know... I could've nearly written that list

So predictable

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Notonthestairs · 22/03/2023 15:28

Yesterday's men & women.

itsgettingweird · 22/03/2023 15:37

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 22/03/2023 10:38

The problem with the Windsor Agreement is that it doesn't come with the promised unicorns. Some are still not accepting the reality that leaving the EU means there has to be a border somewhere. You can't reason with people who are in total denial of reality.

Agree. That's presented very simply but gets to the route of the whole problem.

IClaudine · 22/03/2023 15:42

This is what Boris Johnson said to Sir Bernard Jenkin when Jenkin asked him what he would have said if he had been asked what he would say to any business that wanted to hold “unsocially distanced farewell gatherings” during lockdown.

Johnson replied:

I would have said it is up to organisations, as the guidance says, to decide how they are going to implement the guidance amongst them. Where they can’t do social distancing perfectly, they can’t maintain two metres or one metre, they are entitled to have mitigations. And we did indeed have plenty of mitigations.

🙄🙄🙄

IClaudine · 22/03/2023 15:44

Sorry, there is a partygate thread. I am getting everything wrong today!

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 22/03/2023 15:45

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 22/03/2023 10:38

The problem with the Windsor Agreement is that it doesn't come with the promised unicorns. Some are still not accepting the reality that leaving the EU means there has to be a border somewhere. You can't reason with people who are in total denial of reality.

That sums it up very well.

Notonthestairs · 22/03/2023 15:48

ERG suggesting that Government wouldn't have had a majority -

Break: ERG number crunching shows @RishiSunak needed opposition MPs to get his Northern Ireland deal passed. There were 48 Conservative abstentions which they say = 24 no votes. Add that to 22 actual No votes and you have 46 No votes which = loss of government majority

twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1638564372426420225?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

All a bit desperate on their part.

jgw1 · 22/03/2023 16:37

Roussette · 22/03/2023 15:26

Do you know... I could've nearly written that list

So predictable

Is it 2017 all over again with remoaners getting in the way of a true Brexit?

tobee · 22/03/2023 16:51

Sunak has released what he's paid in tax. As bbc news notes he's done so on a busy news day.

DuncinToffee · 22/03/2023 16:55

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1638583754988953611?s=20

Rishi Sunak has published a statement of how much tax he paid last year but I'm not sure it's a "tax return" per se

(see Nicola Sturgeon's actual tax return to spot the difference)

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1638583754988953611?s=20

Zonder · 22/03/2023 17:14

DuncinToffee · 22/03/2023 14:37

Speaker is useless

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1638531275798528002?s=20

Alison McGovern, "He says we are halving inflation on the very day we have found out that inflation is in fact rising. How can Prime Minister Rishi Sunak correct the record?"

Hoyle, "It's up to him."

Hoyle needs sacking. Bring back Bercow!

newnamethanks · 22/03/2023 17:56

Hoyle is bloody hopeless, very poor indeed.

DuncinToffee · 22/03/2023 23:40

Piggywaspushed · 21/03/2023 22:16

She was moaning about lecturer strikes last week!

Did you see the 'she wasn't that bad' when Jeff mentioned Truss Grin

DuncinToffee · 23/03/2023 08:59

Sunak’s tax returns

#KayBurley - Rishi Sunak's effective tax rate is 22%... I'm sure I pay more tax than that?

Dan Neidle(tax policy association) - "You probably pay twice as much as that... Sunak benefits from that low rate, but he's the man that has the power to change it."

#BBCBreakfast

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1638824230912393217?t=bKe5sypR--T-KyJ7L3kTxg&s=19

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1638824230912393217?s=19&t=bKe5sypR--T-KyJ7L3kTxg

Rosula · 23/03/2023 10:11

So what do Johnson and Truss claim they would have done instead of the Windsor Framework, and on what basis do they claim the other parties involved would have agreed?

Rosula · 23/03/2023 10:21

Notonthestairs · 22/03/2023 15:22

Here's all the Conservative MPs who voted with Boris Johnson against Rishi Sunak's new Brexit deal.

twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1638559732658057230?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

48 didn't record a vote.

Add Braverman and Dorries and you've got a list of the Tory party's nutters and idiots right there.

DuncinToffee · 23/03/2023 12:33

Bank of England increases base rate to 4.25%- 0.25% rise. Eleventh increase in a row.

L1ttledrummergirl · 23/03/2023 13:00

Something else to look forward to then. Hmm

jgw1 · 23/03/2023 13:14

DuncinToffee · 23/03/2023 08:59

Sunak’s tax returns

#KayBurley - Rishi Sunak's effective tax rate is 22%... I'm sure I pay more tax than that?

Dan Neidle(tax policy association) - "You probably pay twice as much as that... Sunak benefits from that low rate, but he's the man that has the power to change it."

#BBCBreakfast

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1638824230912393217?t=bKe5sypR--T-KyJ7L3kTxg&s=19

And yet when I point out that the rich pay a lower proportion of their income in tax than the poor, some posters get most upset.

DuncinToffee · 23/03/2023 14:51

https://twitter.com/BMA_JuniorDocs/status/1638864176649994241?s=20

11-15 April will be the next round of Junior Doctors strike action in England.

The Government is still refusing to make a credible offer - or any offer at all - to resolve our dispute.

https://twitter.com/BMA_JuniorDocs/status/1638864176649994241?s=20

DuncinToffee · 23/03/2023 15:29

jgw1 · 23/03/2023 13:14

And yet when I point out that the rich pay a lower proportion of their income in tax than the poor, some posters get most upset.

you probably just don't understand the nuances of tax or are jealous or a rich basher, take your pick

jgw1 · 23/03/2023 16:00

DuncinToffee · 23/03/2023 15:29

you probably just don't understand the nuances of tax or are jealous or a rich basher, take your pick

Correct.

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