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Director of Lived Experience role at NHS on £115K

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ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 16/12/2022 15:27

www.healthjobsuk.com/job/UK/Staffordshire/Stafford/Midlands_Partnership_NHS_Foundation_Trust/Director/Director-v4828381

What the absolute hell? Words fail me.

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ColonelOfTruth · 16/12/2022 15:29

Why do words fail you? It’s fantastic that the NHS values a role of this kind.

zippalippa · 16/12/2022 15:30

I guessed this would be MPFT. Absolute joke to work for, glad I quit.

lipstickwoman · 16/12/2022 15:31

More baloney. This is exactly why the nhs is on its knees. It doesn't need more funding. It needs a bloody overhaul

Am disgusted.

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ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 16/12/2022 15:31

It's high time the NHS axed the tiers of Trust positions and unnecessary, non medical advisors and administrators. There's a hierarchy of NHS fat cats milking the NHS and they need to be cleared out.

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lipstickwoman · 16/12/2022 15:32

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 16/12/2022 15:31

It's high time the NHS axed the tiers of Trust positions and unnecessary, non medical advisors and administrators. There's a hierarchy of NHS fat cats milking the NHS and they need to be cleared out.

100%

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 16/12/2022 15:34

What a meaningless word salad THAT was. Does the NHS run these through a Random Meaningless Jargon Generator before posting them?

MissHavershamReturns · 16/12/2022 15:34

What is lived experience?

MrsCarson · 16/12/2022 15:35

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 16/12/2022 15:31

It's high time the NHS axed the tiers of Trust positions and unnecessary, non medical advisors and administrators. There's a hierarchy of NHS fat cats milking the NHS and they need to be cleared out.

Yes this!

pursuedbyablackdog · 16/12/2022 15:35

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 16/12/2022 15:31

It's high time the NHS axed the tiers of Trust positions and unnecessary, non medical advisors and administrators. There's a hierarchy of NHS fat cats milking the NHS and they need to be cleared out.

Yes. Those of us who actually see patients, are well aware of the layers and layers of bureaucratic nonsense, and lack of funding at grassroots level.

Atmywitsend29 · 16/12/2022 15:36

Does that word salad correspond to an actual job role??

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 16/12/2022 15:38

MissHavershamReturns · 16/12/2022 15:34

What is lived experience?

I always wonder about that. It seems to be a new buzz-phrase, but of course, every experience is, and always has been, lived. So why the need for someone in a ridiculous role like this?

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Hayliebells · 16/12/2022 15:39

MissHavershamReturns · 16/12/2022 15:34

What is lived experience?

Yes, what is it? And why does being a director of it attract that kind of salary?

Cattenberg · 16/12/2022 15:39

MissHavershamReturns · 16/12/2022 15:34

What is lived experience?

Yes, we need to know this in order to work out what a “lived experience workforce”.

Experience of a life altering health condition, with significant use of secondary health services in which significant power imbalances have been experienced

My stay on an NHS postnatal ward immediately springs to mind.

AlisonDonut · 16/12/2022 15:39

I don't understand still what this means, someone who is alive would surely fit the bill?

SaturnaliaCalling · 16/12/2022 15:40

If you are interested in this post, please submit any questions to [email protected] by 14 December. A Q&A video, answering the questions will be sent to all who have requested this by 19 December and a transcript of the video will be attached to the advertisement, to assist all ahead of the application closing date, 8 January.

I imagine a fair few journalists have already done this.

lipstickwoman · 16/12/2022 15:40

How bloody tone deaf. When nurses are worn in to the ground actually doing what the nhs is there for.

Someone's head should roll over this.

MissHavershamReturns · 16/12/2022 15:40

So is just meaning - getting someone in who knows about patient experience in the nhs?!!!

pursuedbyablackdog · 16/12/2022 15:40

Actually the way it's written makes me think they already have someone in mind...

Hayliebells · 16/12/2022 15:40

I think I could do it. I have lived experience. Reckon I could be a director of it.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 16/12/2022 15:41

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 16/12/2022 15:31

It's high time the NHS axed the tiers of Trust positions and unnecessary, non medical advisors and administrators. There's a hierarchy of NHS fat cats milking the NHS and they need to be cleared out.

Completely agree

Thelnebriati · 16/12/2022 15:41

There's a hierarchy of NHS fat cats milking the NHS and they need to be cleared out.

This. And how surprised would anyone be if they already had someone in mind for the role?

Hayliebells · 16/12/2022 15:42

pursuedbyablackdog · 16/12/2022 15:40

Actually the way it's written makes me think they already have someone in mind...

Exactly what I thought when I read it. A non-job has been created for a favoured person.

SinnerBoy · 16/12/2022 15:42

Much learning has taken place during this time...

Oh please! Away and lie in your own piss.

NuttyinNotts · 16/12/2022 15:42

So is it the salary of NHS directors in general that you have an issue with? Because I think it's quite telling that it's only the director post that will be held by a disabled person that has it's salary being criticised.

This is the first role of its kind. Most NHS lived experience roles are band 3, with some being up to a band 5. There is a strong evidence base behind this kind of work and it is increasingly used within the NHS.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 16/12/2022 15:43

pursuedbyablackdog · 16/12/2022 15:40

Actually the way it's written makes me think they already have someone in mind...

For someone who needs to be or have, and I quote

Compassion and empathy

A desire to reduce power dynamics

Courageous

Awareness of the complex issues of working across organisations and disciplines

A desire to build and sustain a lived experience workforce

Ability to work with high degree of autonomy and use own initiative

Ability to work flexibly and adapt quickly to changes/managing competing priorities

Drive to achieve high quality of work with significant attention to detail

Ability to critically analyse and manage own work

Exercise tact and diplomacy

They're not leaving themselves a lot of time as applications close at the end of Jan. The last five are a given for pretty much any office job.