Director of Lived Experience role at NHS on £115K

[ImJustMadAboutSaffron]

www.healthjobsuk.com/job/UK/Staffordshire/Stafford/Midlands_Partnership_NHS_Foundation_Trust/Director/Director-v4828381

What the absolute hell? Words fail me.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this post, its a red herring for the issues the NHS has, its also a complete one off job.

These isn't enough people in the UK of a suitable standard of education to staff the NHS (it also lacks buildings and equipment) and many that do have, go into far better paid sectors.

A 115k job isn't going to fix or make worse any of this.

You are joking aren’t you!

It would pay 3 or 4 nurses

No, I’m not.

A single person cannot embody the lived experience of all NHS users. It’s ridiculous. Trained facilitators could do a better job, more cheaply of working with randomly sampled focus groups from the population. Every citizen in the UK has lived experience of the NHS.

There is a very clear divide on his thread. Those with their head in the clouds and those with common sense.

The problem with the NHS is the former don't listen to the latter, out power them and are bleeding the nhs dry.

That's exactly what is going wrong @Fleurdaisy it's the lipservice...
"Oh we really want to listen to the voices of patients and their lived experience... but the voices we pick and want to hear, so not actually you, thanks but no thanks, we've already planned who to hear"....

Where are these 3 or 4 nurses waiting around to be employed?

I don't agree with this appointment but all this faux rage when everyday 1000s of people suffer because the NHS hasn't enough beds, nurses doctors and most importantly, no social care planning.

Get angry about this and a Govt making it worse by seeking a strike with HCP's.

I put a thread up about the Govt not having talks about pay with the RCN (and halting strikes) all you people complaining about this job, didn't raise a squeak.

Its like Angry from Tonbridge Wells.

How do you make sure something is done with the feedback from the trained facilitators though?

The nurses are leaving because there aren’t enough front line staff because the NHS spends money on roles like this instead of paying staff so there are not enough staff so staff are dressed and leave.

Stressed not dressed, obs!

The jargon IS the problem. If you called this "Director of Patient Advocacy/Support" and gave the explanations posters have been giving in this thread, then "normal" people who have had mental health / disability treatment and want to help others in the same boat would apply.

"Lived experience", "imbalanced power dynamics and structures" etc are the language of Twitter disability activists, so it's not surprising that people's immediate reaction is that this is a grift.

Sorry, no. It's still bollocks no matter how you dress it up.

More staff on the ground doing the real nhs work. Not over paid pie in the sky thinkers. Thanks.

But most people doing lived experience work are frontline workers? The biggest example of this is Peer support workers?

lived experience work is a complete career pathway within mental health services