Thread 17:. Big Dog returns?

[Fladdermus]

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"I’ve never seen scenes like it at the entrance to a voting lobby. Tories on open warfare. Jostling and Rees Mogg shouting at his colleagues. Whips screaming at Tories.
They are done and should call a general election.
Two Tory whips dragging people in. Shocking."

twitter.com/ianmurraymp/status/1582797073401131009?s=46&t=xQwm8cv9ib2XnaLNkLcMfw

I'm struggling with the maths? Do we know how many Tory MPs rebelled?

I hope someone is on the ball enough to leak photos/video or do they take their phones off them?

Do none of these people ever look at themselves and see the little dictators they’ve become? At some point you have to accept that people just don’t agree with you on occasion.

Sorry to be so thick, but does this mean that fracking can be done now ?
Will areas have to oppose it ?
They pledged not to do this , but changes their minds?

Craig Whittaker has just come out of the lobby and said" I am fucking furious and I don’t give a fuck anymore”.'

https://twitter.com/isabelhardman/status/1582800202318368768?s=46&t=xQwm8cv9ib2XnaLNkLcMfw

^^ Deputy Chief Whip

Just seen Tory whips manhandling a crying Tory MP into their lobby for fracking. You couldn’t make this toxic stuff up, nasty to see the Tories at work, if this is how they treat their MPs spare a thought for the country.

twitter.com/lloyd_rm/status/1582796577831153664?s=46&t=xQwm8cv9ib2XnaLNkLcMfw

Funny sort of Victory.

We've found the next PM! Kerry from Sunderland wipes the floor with tory MP Paul Scully live on BBC News.

www.thepoke.co.uk/2022/10/19/kerry-from-sunderland-just-tore-tory-mp-paul-scully-a-new-one-and-its-a-fabulous-watch/?fbclid=IwAR1omlZ61qvxXy_8cTwdSv7dzh6K44hVoE-KqIehfKsk_w-W5cG4xiimaRg

God, if this is true this is the sort of thing I expect to hear from countries like Syria and Russia. It’s unbelievable what they’re doing.

This is just sinister.

It means that there won't be a debate in Parliament to ban fracking.

It leaves to the Government to implement their new fracking policy.

I bet that the crying MP may have been Harlow MP Robert Halfon ? I've no idea, but he seems the sort to be so upset about the whole thing and is opening critical of the new P M and policies.

Sir Charles Walker on Ch4 News also talking about younger MPs in tears. Dear God.

He sits on the 1922 committee though, that would seem like a daft move.

Thank you for that explanation
So, they have overturned part of their 2019 manifesto then!

Yes this is pretty dark stuff.

Has this happened before?

On Sky, they have just got a list of those who didn't vote. Kwasi Kwarteng is one and another seems to be..... Liz Truss.

Assuming it's an error.

I find myself in the really odd position of feeling very protective of MP’s. I’m not sure what to do with this.

Fracking is so controversial isn't it?
I remember the ones opposing it all a few years ago.

Wtf. Surely this is a coup by the tory party saying our democracy is dead.

Who the hell do Truss and her cabinet think they are?

The 1922 just need to completely dissolve the tories. Look at what they’ve become.

Bloody hell, is this really happening?

I make it 31 Tory MPs who didn’t vote actively for fracking - including Theresa May, Kwasi Kwarteng, Priti Patel and ex chief whip Wendy Morton

twitter.com/pickardje/status/1582803711344054272?s=46&t=xQwm8cv9ib2XnaLNkLcMfw

AND LIZ TRUSS

Excuse shouting.

Here is @RhonddaBryant explaining what he saw. A group of MPs, including cabinet ministers Therese Coffey and Jacob Rees-Mogg being very aggressive to a junior MP, a fracas which culminated in his being physically shoved into the lobby. ~AA

Worth watching the video.

twitter.com/sturdyalex/status/1582804115453014018?s=46&t=xQwm8cv9ib2XnaLNkLcMfw

So if it was a 3 line whip (it's still not known at the moment if thiscwas changed), does that mean she's just kicked herself out of the party?