Anyone watching the leadership debate ?

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Or is it just me being a saddo ?

Yes I was wondering if she had to trawl specialist vintage websites to unearth that ‘80’s pussy bow blouse - she looked like she was in fancy dress as Thatcher - desperate tactics.

I wasn't impressed with any of them. Tom was good to say he thought Johnson was dishonest but he completely dodged the NHS question. Kemi came across well but I don't like her policies and she seemed conniving. I hadn't seen much of Penny before and I thought she was awful - clearly not up to the job. Truss and Sunak are too scarred by their association with Johnson.

Is the media enthusiasm for Penny based on the fact that she’s an easy on the eye woman?? I can’t see any substance to her at all. Her trans views are dangerous. “A woman like me doesn’t have a penis” - ie. but other women do have penises. That comment alone should keep her out of govt for a very long time.

TBH I wouldn’t trust any of them. But I feel the same way (and more so) about the Labour lot.

I suppose it’s always the wrong sort of egotists who want to be prime minister. Decent people don’t want the hassle.

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That's interesting that Kemi didn't appeal more in that survey . Maybe she appeals more to women. And I imagine the Tory membership is skewed to men

I was extremely hopeful for Liz Truss before this, but she was just insipid.

Its Kemi for me, Rishi for DH.

My father is a longterm Tory party member and I'm quite sure he would vote against a young black woman on principle. I'm sure he's not alone.

(Don't shoot the messenger. We're no contact. I 100% disagree with him.)

Twitter is hilarious about Liz Truss. I think she's toast

That's interesting that Kemi didn't appeal more in that survey . Maybe she appeals more to women. And I imagine the Tory membership is skewed to men

It is. Male, white, over the age of 60, living in the South East.

But that poll was the result of asking 'voters in general' not party members.

So Kemi doesn't appeal full stop, I guess. I agree, tbh.

Tory membership age and sex is an interesting one.

It is always assumed they are older but on the Jeremy Vine show today it was said that there is only about 6 month difference between the average age of Tory and Labour members.

It shocked me.

Ok I'm rooting for Tom. He'd appeal to that electorate and although a bit insipid he seems fairly honest

I hope so

But then PM has high numbers and I’m not convinced on her either

over the age of 60

Not according to Jeremy Vine show today. Mid 50s and similar average age to Labour member

Interesting that you think Tom T lacks substance. As an army officer he will have run a group of very young men, and have been expected to deliver them to do their work. Probably only a year older than his squad, but with much higher expectations of performance. Regardless of the useless Rupert trope MN believes, the services are unforgiving of failure to deliver. People's lives depend on competence.

Tom I just can’t stand but I get people react well to him so I’d just deal with the dislike and put him above Truss and PM

Snap Opinium poll
Tugendhat 36%
Sunak 25%
Mordaunt 12%
Badenoch 12%
Truss 6%

He lead operations in a war zone. He is used to being calm and collected (on the outside at least)

I thought Tom did well but his slick style plus the big doe eyes at the doctor combined to channel shades of the opening monologue of Love Actually. It was a bit odd.

Kemi seemed straight talking and made Penny's long evasive answers look especially slippery. But I accept that may be my bias. Liz was disappointing, you can't just do big arms and hope decent content will fall out of your mouth. Rishi did fine but I don't think he exceeded anyone's expectations there.

Interesting

Like PP have said, Kemi needs to sort the eye rolling out. It became more obvious as the debate went on.

It doesn't adhere you to the public.

you can't just do big arms and hope decent content will fall out of your mouth

Yes!!!!

Angela Rayner nooo

I don’t want that to happen

Source?

I can't believe anyone would rank Penny the same as Kemi

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