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Why Are So Many Survivors Supporting Johnny Depp?

238 replies

CaptSkippy · 26/05/2022 21:51

Why Are So Many Survivors Supporting Johnny Depp?

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VeniVidiWeeWee · 26/05/2022 22:44

Because they believe his version of events?

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 26/05/2022 22:46

CaptSkippy · 26/05/2022 21:51

Probably because they believe that he’s telling the truth, something that they are more likely to do given the whoppers that Amber Heard has been caught telling under oath.

And based on her doing a shit in their bed and trying to blame the dogs.

Buzzer3555 · 26/05/2022 22:47

Because not all women tell the truth and not all men are abusive

Rupertgrintismyguiltypleasure · 26/05/2022 22:48

why can’t they? Just because people are survivors doesn’t mean they all have to believe the same thing... it isn’t a cult.

fucketyfuckwit · 26/05/2022 22:56

He comes across as a classic narcissist. His behaviour in the court room gives it away.

User3568975431146 · 26/05/2022 22:56

Men can be survivors of DV too. He's not perfect, but she comes across as a tidal nightmare. Not all women are nice people and not all men are bad.

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CaptSkippy · 26/05/2022 22:57

Maybe you should all read the article rather than getting defensive. It's a short article. You'll be done in a few minutes.

OP posts:
SlightlyGeordieJohn · 26/05/2022 22:58

fucketyfuckwit · 26/05/2022 22:56

He comes across as a classic narcissist. His behaviour in the court room gives it away.

That’s interesting. Is that your professional opinion as a clinical psychologist, or do you just not like him?

fucketyfuckwit · 26/05/2022 23:01

That's my non professional opinion.

I don't either like or dislike him to be fair.

They are both as bad as each other, I think he's just better at keeping his cool in public.

Rathmobhaile · 26/05/2022 23:01

Because she badly acts a victim of trauma. Trauma victims don't keep reoeating their trauma. They may be able to repeat it once. They can't keep repeating it as psychologically it may re traumatise them. So seeing Amber Herd getting emotional and revisiting trauma in such an emotionally emersed way repeatedly doesn't ring true. The way Johhny Depp describes his trauma of abuse both in childhood and as an adult is much more typical of abused people. Theres a detachment and matter of fact quietness to it that reflects the only way most trauma victims can talk of their trauma without revisiting and retraumatising. Its not an immersive experience for johnny depp as he can't let himself go there. Its not psychologically safe. Amber goes there because her trauma isn't real.

Just because shes female and hes male doesn't mean he has to be the abuser.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 26/05/2022 23:02

fucketyfuckwit · 26/05/2022 23:01

That's my non professional opinion.

I don't either like or dislike him to be fair.

They are both as bad as each other, I think he's just better at keeping his cool in public.

Possibly in private too, given the shit in the bed incident.

Freddiefox · 26/05/2022 23:04

Because lots of women like to put other women down, they want to be better then than.
sexism doesn’t just come form men, it comes from women too.

Oswin · 26/05/2022 23:05

Rathmobhaile · 26/05/2022 23:01

Because she badly acts a victim of trauma. Trauma victims don't keep reoeating their trauma. They may be able to repeat it once. They can't keep repeating it as psychologically it may re traumatise them. So seeing Amber Herd getting emotional and revisiting trauma in such an emotionally emersed way repeatedly doesn't ring true. The way Johhny Depp describes his trauma of abuse both in childhood and as an adult is much more typical of abused people. Theres a detachment and matter of fact quietness to it that reflects the only way most trauma victims can talk of their trauma without revisiting and retraumatising. Its not an immersive experience for johnny depp as he can't let himself go there. Its not psychologically safe. Amber goes there because her trauma isn't real.

Just because shes female and hes male doesn't mean he has to be the abuser.

Where do you get the confidence to state this like it's a fact. Fucks sake.
Do you people know the damage you are doing? Its sickening.

Polyanne · 26/05/2022 23:08

I believe him. Especially since Kate Moss gave evidence that proved Amber was lying under oath. I mean they’ve both been horrible to each other, but she’s nuts and is lying through her teeth.

Iwasfeelingepic · 26/05/2022 23:09

Rathmobhaile · 26/05/2022 23:01

Because she badly acts a victim of trauma. Trauma victims don't keep reoeating their trauma. They may be able to repeat it once. They can't keep repeating it as psychologically it may re traumatise them. So seeing Amber Herd getting emotional and revisiting trauma in such an emotionally emersed way repeatedly doesn't ring true. The way Johhny Depp describes his trauma of abuse both in childhood and as an adult is much more typical of abused people. Theres a detachment and matter of fact quietness to it that reflects the only way most trauma victims can talk of their trauma without revisiting and retraumatising. Its not an immersive experience for johnny depp as he can't let himself go there. Its not psychologically safe. Amber goes there because her trauma isn't real.

Just because shes female and hes male doesn't mean he has to be the abuser.

I can talk about the trauma I went through as a child, I have spoken to different people about it, sometimes in great detail, without it affecting me. So I don't think it's fair to say she's lying based on how she talks about her trauma. Everyone reacts differently

Rathmobhaile · 26/05/2022 23:10

My confidence cones from a professional not a personal opinion. You can take it or leave it. I don't care either way.

Freddiefox · 26/05/2022 23:10

Rathmobhaile · 26/05/2022 23:01

Because she badly acts a victim of trauma. Trauma victims don't keep reoeating their trauma. They may be able to repeat it once. They can't keep repeating it as psychologically it may re traumatise them. So seeing Amber Herd getting emotional and revisiting trauma in such an emotionally emersed way repeatedly doesn't ring true. The way Johhny Depp describes his trauma of abuse both in childhood and as an adult is much more typical of abused people. Theres a detachment and matter of fact quietness to it that reflects the only way most trauma victims can talk of their trauma without revisiting and retraumatising. Its not an immersive experience for johnny depp as he can't let himself go there. Its not psychologically safe. Amber goes there because her trauma isn't real.

Just because shes female and hes male doesn't mean he has to be the abuser.

Here you go a classic example. She’s not doing
what I think she should be doing, she’s not doing it in the right way. My way is right her way is wrong, therefore she is lying.

victim blaming.

women are handed out roles, and expectations and I’d they not show enough/too much emotion they are liars.

we’ve seen it time and again. And the ones pointing the finger are women.

Oswin · 26/05/2022 23:17

Rathmobhaileb what is it you do then?
Because surely anyone who is trauma informed knows that trauma is individual?

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 26/05/2022 23:18

Freddiefox · 26/05/2022 23:04

Because lots of women like to put other women down, they want to be better then than.
sexism doesn’t just come form men, it comes from women too.

Indeed, as we’ve seen from some posters on here who assume heard is the victim based on her being female.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 26/05/2022 23:21

Polyanne · 26/05/2022 23:08

I believe him. Especially since Kate Moss gave evidence that proved Amber was lying under oath. I mean they’ve both been horrible to each other, but she’s nuts and is lying through her teeth.

Lying under oath, which she has definitely done, is not helpful to her case.

It shows that she is willing to tell serious lies, when in the witness box, if she thinks it will benefit her.

That doesn’t mean that she’s not telling the truth in other areas, but it means that anything else she says can be treated as suspect unless corroborated.

Freddiefox · 26/05/2022 23:23

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 26/05/2022 23:18

Indeed, as we’ve seen from some posters on here who assume heard is the victim based on her being female.

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Oh please! Read the article, it’s really interesting. My comment is about women putting women down because they haven’t acted as other women think they should have acted.

This comment doesn’t mention either depp or heard. But is about sexism from women to women.

chiickenandmayosandwich · 26/05/2022 23:24

For me, I simply believe his side of the story. Something doesn't sit right with her and the way she recalls her side.

They were both clearly terrible to each other, heavy drug and alcohol abusers and not in the right head space to be in a relationship.

She's admitted to hitting him on record, throwing things at him and being verbally abusive. There was an incident that resulted in him losing the top of his finger.
He was recorded begging her to stop, saying he couldn't take the physical violence any longer.

She was not an innocent victim.

That's not to say he didn't do anything wrong, neither of them are coming out of this looking good, but how the fuck can she claim to be an advocate of domestic violence survivors after behaving like that?

He more than likely would have divorced, kept his head down and moved on with his life and career but she kept picking away at the bones and badmouthing him to the point it affected his life and work.

I believe he just wants to set the record straight.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 26/05/2022 23:25

Freddiefox · 26/05/2022 23:23

Oh please! Read the article, it’s really interesting. My comment is about women putting women down because they haven’t acted as other women think they should have acted.

This comment doesn’t mention either depp or heard. But is about sexism from women to women.

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I read the article, it is utter shit, from start to end, written for idiots.

It is working backwards from the assumption that she’s telling the truth, despite us now having proof that she lied under oath.

VeniVidiWeeWee · 26/05/2022 23:26

CaptSkippy · 26/05/2022 22:57

Maybe you should all read the article rather than getting defensive. It's a short article. You'll be done in a few minutes.

No. You asked a question, I answered it. Do you have a problem with standard English?

AdamRyan · 26/05/2022 23:28

That's a great article OP and it's very illuminating how many people have jumped on to comment without reading it