Star Hobson verdict in

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Savannah Brockhill Guilty of murder. Frankie Smith Guilty of causing or allowing death.

Yes, and am I right in thinking that she shouldn't have been driving legally with a history of known seizures with an undiagnosed cause?

No she wouldn't be able to drive, tho I can't imagine she would give a shit about a minor thing like that

@Theythinkitsalloveritisnow

Small point but I have epilepsy and I have never heard of someone having an 80min seizure. 10 minutes is dangerous.

I thought it sounded odd where it says she was found collapsed for over an hour. I mean if she was found how do they know how long she had been collapsed, or did they mean she was found collapsed and didn't recover for over an hour?

Why is everyone talking of social workers scared of parents and how they should be backed up by police etc?
We all know what happened in both Arthur and Star's cases - social workers blindly believed every word from the abusers, and that's not because they feared them

@Somethingsnappy

Yes, and am I right in thinking that she shouldn't have been driving legally with a history of known seizures with an undiagnosed cause?

No she wouldn’t have. Considering she regularly drove whilst drunk, assaulted FS in the passenger seat whilst driving and tried to drive them both off a cliff she probably wasn’t too concerned about these kind of things though.

Is anyone else just really disturbed by Brockhill laughing and smiling in the dock?

@crochetmonkey74

Is anyone else just really disturbed by Brockhill laughing and smiling in the dock?

She's a callous bitch 😤

@crochetmonkey74

Is anyone else just really disturbed by Brockhill laughing and smiling in the dock?

Pretty much what you would expect from her TBH.

Minimum 15 hrs.

Years. Does that mean she really could be out in 15 years time??!

Or is that just the starting point and she can add to it? I hope so!!

@lupinlass

Or is that just the starting point and she can add to it? I hope so!!

Yes, just the starting point. Mitigating factors can reduce it and aggravating factors can increase it.

Minimum 25 years for SB

FS 2/3 of 8 years

Minus 443 days for both for time spent on remand.

SB minimum 25yrs
FS 8 yrs

FS only getting 8 years 😭 that bitch knew exactly what was going on, she didn't lift a finger herself, she had her Rottweiler do it instead

Glad SB got a minimum of 25 years. FS should have gotten much longer for what she did to Star.
Disgustingly lenient for the torture of that poor baby.

I can't believe she got 8 years.

Neither can I

Hmmmmph, so did the IQ mitigation make any difference? That'll open the floodgates for defence lawyers. Every Tom, Dick and Harriet'll now have a "low IQ" and couldn't possibly help their actions

8 years and they’ve said she only has to serve 2/3’s of that. Sickening.

@DottyHarmer

Hmmmmph, so did the IQ mitigation make any difference? That'll open the floodgates for defence lawyers. Every Tom, Dick and Harriet'll now have a "low IQ" and couldn't possibly help their actions

It won't open any floodgates it's already 'used' and it would need to be proven someone's IQ was low.

Poor little girl. I hope SB gets a long time in prison.

FS will serve around 4 more years before parole is considered. I'd imagine that SB will end up with time added because of her likely conduct in jail, but otherwise 24 years left.

I hope the family is looked after.