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Can white people ever experience racism?

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LittleRedCourgettes · 05/02/2021 09:14

Following a discussion on this topic with some students, I was reading this article and am interested to hear your honest thoughts on this question.....

https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/wherediddwegetttheideaathatonlyywhitepeopleecanbeeracist

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Hettya · 08/02/2021 18:23

People like you are part of the problem

The problem being (for you) .... that I don't agree with you. Okaaay 😉

Summersummer22 · 08/02/2021 18:24

@Hettya

Just like critical race theory. It's a doctrine, not testable, not based in any scientific grounding. A manual that some people use to guide their lives, which is simply based on...opinion.
It’s not an opinion. Go and look up the word ethnic MINORITY because your clearly lacking knowledge.

What does MINORITY mean??

HmmSureJan · 08/02/2021 18:24

Please. You didn’t want to hear an opinion that you didn’t like. Because it doesn’t for YOUR narrative. How ignorant.

For the record my nan is WHITE and my Grandma is black I have NO narrative however I do know there is NO black privilege!! But you don’t want to hear that do you? Does it make you uncomfortable? I never asked you to agree you @ me first. If you can do what you like.... don’t be getting upset because your point looks rather bleak! “Saying you don’t care is rude” so please don’t act so full of morals when it’s suits.......

This makes no sense.

Summersummer22 · 08/02/2021 18:27

@Hettya

People like you are part of the problem

The problem being (for you) .... that I don't agree with you. Okaaay 😉

No. You tagged me first so you had the issue with what I put, it didn’t sit well with YOUR narrative like I said and your too ignorant to listen. Your part of the problem like I said. I have no problem because your argument is weak... “Black privilege” I have heard it all now....

MN never lets me down Grin

Hettya · 08/02/2021 18:27

What does MINORITY mean

Go and look it up in the dictionary. Whilst you're about it, look up the meaning of racism.

Summersummer22 · 08/02/2021 18:28

@HmmSureJan

Please. You didn’t want to hear an opinion that you didn’t like. Because it doesn’t for YOUR narrative. How ignorant.

For the record my nan is WHITE and my Grandma is black I have NO narrative however I do know there is NO black privilege!! But you don’t want to hear that do you? Does it make you uncomfortable? I never asked you to agree you @ me first. If you can do what you like.... don’t be getting upset because your point looks rather bleak! “Saying you don’t care is rude” so please don’t act so full of morals when it’s suits.......

This makes no sense.

Hahahha you will be the type to say “speak some English” If the shoe fits...
Hettya · 08/02/2021 18:30

Shouting in bold or writing in capitals does not make your opinion any more valid. Nor does name calling.

Summersummer22 · 08/02/2021 18:30

@Hettya

What does MINORITY mean

Go and look it up in the dictionary. Whilst you're about it, look up the meaning of racism.

Look up white privilege.... the fact your denying it is embarrassing.
Devlesko · 08/02/2021 18:30

Racism regarding white people doesn't even come close

Are you for real? The largest ethnic minority in the UK is white and I can promise you we have the same history as Black people.
go back a few centuries and you'd find us hung on sight.
Experiments and ethnic cleansing for centuries, (in the uk), Our children taken from us, laws passed to stop us continuing our culture.
And thse signs from the 60's No Blacks, Irish, travellers etc still apply to us. We experience racism in the country we were born, we are British citizens, not that that should matter, but true.
We experience racism going to buy clothes, we are refused in supermarkets, and restaurants/ pubs often deny us entrance.
There would be an uproar if Black people still experienced this and rightly so, but we still live with racism daily.
Look at our history and then come back and tell me that racism towards white people doean't come close.

Summersummer22 · 08/02/2021 18:31

@Hettya

Shouting in bold or writing in capitals does not make your opinion any more valid. Nor does name calling.
Neither does ignorance and only wanting to understand things from your own point of view because you are not directly affected..
HmmSureJan · 08/02/2021 18:32

Hahahha you will be the type to say “speak some English” If the shoe fits...

Again. This makes no sense.

Sittingonabench · 08/02/2021 18:32

@Summersummer22

“Hahahha you will be the type to say “speak some English” If the shoe fits...”

do you not see that you are attacking posters based on your own bias?? Do you not see the irony?

Summersummer22 · 08/02/2021 18:33

@Devlesko

Racism regarding white people doesn't even come close

Are you for real? The largest ethnic minority in the UK is white and I can promise you we have the same history as Black people.
go back a few centuries and you'd find us hung on sight.
Experiments and ethnic cleansing for centuries, (in the uk), Our children taken from us, laws passed to stop us continuing our culture.
And thse signs from the 60's No Blacks, Irish, travellers etc still apply to us. We experience racism in the country we were born, we are British citizens, not that that should matter, but true.
We experience racism going to buy clothes, we are refused in supermarkets, and restaurants/ pubs often deny us entrance.
There would be an uproar if Black people still experienced this and rightly so, but we still live with racism daily.
Look at our history and then come back and tell me that racism towards white people doean't come close.

UK is a white Country. Is it not? There are far less black people. Are you for real?
nicky7654 · 08/02/2021 18:33

Of course they can and have been just the same as black people.

Hettya · 08/02/2021 18:34

Neither does ignorance and only wanting to understand things from your own point of view because you are not directly affected..

Oh I understand your point of view. I just don't agree with you 😂

Hettya · 08/02/2021 18:36

UK is a white Country. Is it not? There are far less black people. Are you for real?

Do you have a spread sheet there of people's names, where they live, where they have lived, and what their experiences are?

Devlesko · 08/02/2021 18:52

UK is a white Country. Is it not? There are far less black people. Are you for real?

Sorry, I don't know what you mean.
I'm from a white minority race is the UK. Confused
We have experienced identical racism to Black people, not that it should be a competition.
This is why I didn't accept white privilage, tbh.
Some people are privilaged in life, it has nothing to do with colour.
Some races and ethnicities experience racism, also not always to do with colour.

Coldasfish · 08/02/2021 18:53

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HmmSureJan · 08/02/2021 18:55

@Devlesko

UK is a white Country. Is it not? There are far less black people. Are you for real?

Sorry, I don't know what you mean.
I'm from a white minority race is the UK. Confused
We have experienced identical racism to Black people, not that it should be a competition.
This is why I didn't accept white privilage, tbh.
Some people are privilaged in life, it has nothing to do with colour.
Some races and ethnicities experience racism, also not always to do with colour.

The worst racism I ever saw/heard was against travellers. I will not repeat it but it was about 15 years ago and I still think of it every time I see a traveller person or family and when I read your posts on here.
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PlanDeRaccordement · 08/02/2021 19:06

“White privilege” is a badly named term that really should be called “majority privilege” because this privilege does exist and benefits whoever is the majority ethnicity. It’s better to understand in that way than to call it White privilege in Europe or Asian privilege in China or Black privilege in Ethiopia. The terms white, black, Asian and so on also imply a monolith of race identity encompassing multiple ethnicities, which isn’t abided by in real life. The Rwanda genocide, the Armenian genocide, the Holocaust, the Roma genocide, the Pol Pot genocide, the Kulak genocide, the Sami genocide....history is littered with examples of ethnicities within white black asian where the differences were sufficient reason to some evil types to carry out genocide on another ethnicity that was also white, black, Asian but different.

It is important to note that majority privilege only applies to democratic countries. In countries with an aristocracy or ruling ethnic group, they are usually a minority numbers wise and hold power over an oppressed majority.

Blackberrycream · 08/02/2021 19:07

This thread is disgusting.
We look to America and laugh at some of the antics of Trump supporters. This really is not dissimilar. Say what you want and say it enough times that it becomes some kind of truth. Or truth to people who are not able to access tested information.
What’s the point.
@Hettya You seem very invested in this. I’m a mathematician and am quite clear on the data. Are you?
Also, I am quite clear on my own individual experience. It has been pretty overwhelming. Thankfully my own children have continually outperformed expectations. It’s quite gratifying actually. It’s still frankly disgusting that I have to monitor what is going on. I am aware of the issues and constantly act to counteract those issues. My sadness is that others are not able to act in the same way.

woodhill · 08/02/2021 19:08

Yes a better way to describe it. White privilege is a really irritating phrase

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