ADs trying to stay upright in a muddy park

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Another thousand posts filled and we're ploughing on through another weekend of squelching through parks before we hit the Long Dark Teatime of the Soul.

The AD chat continues...

I am trying to ignore all that kind of stuff it is horrible for mental health isn't it.

We have relatives who are terminally ill and will probably be their last Christmas, with or without covid. That kind of gets it into perspective really.

@Orangeblossom7777 I agree! Just been posting carefully worded messages to my siblings as they are full on Dementors. Is it worse to spoil what might be an elderly parents last Christmas (they had a stroke early this year and the chance of a second stroke in the second year increases to 80%) or risk passing on The Virus (capital letters used in jest)? If I was the elderly parent I would get everyone around to party but I'm still young (51!) and very healthy so perhaps in a different mindset to someone 20 years older.

I got called heartless earlier this year for saying that I would rather see my grandchildren every day and die quickly from Covid than Abide by lockdown rulings and have a longer death over several years slowly losing my marbles and abilities to function on a daily basis.

Sadly you don't die quickly from covid. It's bloody awful. And how would your grandchildren feel if they inadvertently passed it on to you ?

checking in.

feeling a bit better today

family are having a do we dont we xmas debate over whatsapp. i arent bothered anymore - im so used to not seeing them its starting to not bother me any more - how awful is that.

Roll on easter, or whenever we are finally free.

Totally with you @Blobby10.

My old dad is the same, he’s done anyway abc would rather see us than not.

Other elderly relatives are worried.

Schonerlebnis I don't actually have grandchildren (yet) but if I did, would rather see them than hide away from this virus. I was merely making the point that, albeit from the perspective of a fit and healthy 51 year old, I cannot envisage preferring to gradually lose my mind, my independence and all control over my bodily functions over a period of years before dying more than catching something like Covid (pneumonia maybe) when yes the suffering would be great (as dying in any form must be) but at least it would be over in weeks or at the most months.

TrustTheGeneGenie same here - not seen siblings and their families for many months but then I didn't see them that much before Covid, maybe birthdays and Christmas but otherwise they socialise between themselves and I'm not part of that. My parents live 15 miles away and I see them regularly anyway and will see them over the Christmas period just not Christmas Day

@TrustTheGeneGenie, so sorry to hear about your friends

@110APiccadilly, congratulations on your new arrival. I second the suggestion to get big comfy pants. Comfort not style after a CS 😁

Sprouts of just about edible if you roast them rather than boil them

Mince pies with icing on are a particular favourite in this house.

I hate Marzipan but my gran used to dislike the icing sugar so everytime we had Christmas cake I would give her my marzipan and she’d give me her icing and all was well with the world. That’s the sort of thing I miss around Christmas now.

I have to admit we are looking forward to a simple Christmas with just the 5 of us. While I love all my family, IL’s too, it’ll be nice to have a travel free Christmas. Also I know there will be lots of dementoring with dh being the main instigator and I’ve just had a enough of it already.

I now think “if you knew it was going to be your last ever Christmas, what would you do? Who would you spend it with?’

@Blobby10 - could you sound them out on the idea of all the adults going getting the 20 minute tests from boots on week of 21st, then locking down until seeing elderly family member? Lots of "its only a risk if one us has it, let's have the tests so everyone can relax a little".

Yes it can be so difficult to say anything with some people can't it. I end up saying nothing at all

@Worldgonecrazy

I now think “if you knew it was going to be your last ever Christmas, what would you do? Who would you spend it with?’

That's a very good way to think about it isn't it.

Well if I had a terminally ill relative the four horses of the apocalypse could not keep me away. If I was terminal I would want to keep seeing loved ones.

It's when you say things like oh well at least the shops are opening, or something and you get back some gloom about people dying or think pf others etc, can be very hard to take when you do in fact have relatives who are terminally ill.

Horrible for those who are very ill to hear it all as well.

It’s nit just those who are terminally ill. When my mums cancer returned we thought it would be her last Christmas. Turns out she is still here. It was my brother who died suddenly at the age of 52. We never thought for a second it would be his last Christmas. Now we take nothing for granted. And the Prime Minister can go fuck himself with his ridiculous rules.

@Worldgonecrazy

It’s nit just those who are terminally ill. When my mums cancer returned we thought it would be her last Christmas. Turns out she is still here. It was my brother who died suddenly at the age of 52. We never thought for a second it would be his last Christmas. Now we take nothing for granted. And the Prime Minister can go fuck himself with his ridiculous rules.

I hear you.

Does anyone know what happens to hotels in Tier 2?

It was rather like the way you would discuss germs with small children, I think being patronised and treated like a small child rather than an intelligent adult with full capacity to understand risk and make sensible decisions is one of the worst aspects of this crisis

Not to mention the football analogies at the press conferences , the assumption that we will all pass Covid to each other while pissed.

Thats how they see us. As a huge nation of irresponsible pissheads into football and Strictly

I don’t know what to think about the Christmas stuff. It’s like they are reluctantly telling us “ok you can get together but it’s your own fault when we have a 3rd wave in January!”. Like we are naughty kids.

My head is mashed.

And I love sprouts.

@MargosKaftan Its a good idea but tbh I don't think its worth it. Two of my household have had Covid recently. Two of us were in very close contact and didn't have any symptoms so either superspreaders or have excellent immune systems, the other 2 can't afford the tests and I can't afford to pay for them! We will see my parents, just outside - they are lucky enough to live in a house with a big garden and surrounded by fields so quite easy to achieve this.

Aztectrousers I love sprouts too but only if they are cooked properly and not boiled to mush. Had some stir fried the other night with chicken in a paprika flavoured white sauce! Looked like prawn cocktail but tasted divine

I just ventured off this thread. And am angry and sad now. This feels neverending. And seeing an uptick in mask wearing doesn't help. It felt like an uptick in hostility to me.

Fwiw, I think, if I understood correctly, if a mask causes severe distress, one is exempt. That might help fellow ND people.

On happier notes, I am going to introduce DD1 to Nancy Drew books. I got hooked on them. I hope she will like them.

Dying from anything is pretty fucking awful, unless you’re one of the lucky few who slip away in their sleep in their 90s after years of relatively good health. I’ve watched both of my parents die (not from COVID) and I’m pretty damn sure they suffered just as much .. but obviously their deaths weren’t sadly deaths so don’t count

And if my non-existent-as-yet grandchildren passed COVID onto me then I expect they’d feel just as innocent of any wrongdoing as I hope they would if they passed on flu or any other potentially fatal, contagious disease

It wasn't the visor thread was it?
I can usually tolerate the visor... although yesterday was a fail.
I know it's crap, but then so are most of the masks either by design or use.
But to pick at people who can wear them as a gesture of legal complience is a new low. It's doing no more harm than a lanyard.
And I do worry that as a small, young looking woman usually wearing sportswear, that I'm high risk of being easy pickings. At least a visor protects me from that.

I'm not going to fret about unwittingly spreading Covid any more than I worry about unwittingly spreading any illness.
Funny how deaths peak around Ianuary anyway...

No, it was a thread about a small person with school anxiety. Turns out the anxiety is caused by all her teachers masking up. But masks have no downsides, do they?