Prince Andrews slip ups

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he said LOADS of things during that interview, where he was telling the truth, and forgetting his lie.

the only one I can remember now though is when talking about visiting JE house in (Bahamas?? not the NY one anyway). a witness had said he went 4 times a year. He said something like; 'you have to understand, when you go into one of those places...'

that's not how you talk about a friend's house. what are 'those places'?

I’m watching the channel 4 documentary. It’s interesting.

Pedophiles have used code words for many many years.

Some good research from Shaun Attwood with over 100 videos on the Epstein case:

www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPT_cCpNMvT73vjeimfkttju80FKKlH52

My DH was in royalty protection for 5 years until recently. He had to sign a confidentiality clause when he joined. He also said there will be clear records for PA's whereabouts on given days.
PA was/is universally hated by the police. He treats them with utter contempt. My Dh watched the interview shaking his head at the attitude he displayed.

We need to know the code words

The channel 4 documentary is hard to watch, I don’t think I’ll watch it all.

ihatethecold
My DH was in royalty protection for 5 years until recently. He had to sign a confidentiality clause when he joined. He also said there will be clear records for PA's whereabouts on given days.
PA was/is universally hated by the police. He treats them with utter contempt. My Dh watched the interview shaking his head at the attitude he displayed.

However, a court can issue an order to access confidential information, when there is a legal duty to do so

Please can someone explain the code words?

ihatethecold - I have a family member who worked for a very famous charity for decades, throughout the years he met many members of the RF. The Queen and Prince Philip, Princess Anne, Prince Charles and unfortunately on a few occasions Prince Andrew. Family member said he has nothing but the highest praise for how the RF comperted themselves and showed genuine interest and a willingness to do their bit -except Andrew. He was unfailingly rude and high-handed, he made it obvious that he thought he shouldn't have deal with any members of the public while the Queen herself was always lovely and down to earth.

I don’t think it is in the least bit suspicious though that he is able to pinpoint his location several years after the event. He will have very clear schedules and diaries, probably electronic by 2010, and probably archived for just this sort of scenario.

The code words I still don’t get. I don’t know any no1 and no2 who was he speaking to?

I personally think Epstein planned to have people involved who would never face justice. It’s an added layer of protection for him. If they won’t talk, they won’t incriminate him. Times are changing though, as we’ve seen, and people are being held more to account now.

Epstein and Trump and Prince Andy all seem very friendly in some photos.

IamPickle - I agree - he should know where he has been every day, or at least, the records would be available to show him. Wonder why they haven't been used to support him?

I am a Royalist - not a fan of Andrew - but prepared to give him the believe he was/is not part of this horror.

But DH and I have just been talking, and he said if I was being accused of such dreadful things, I would be on the first plane to the States to see the FBI, to tell them what I know, and prove my innocence. Why is he hiding behind lawyers?

Really saddens me - poor Queen (although Andrew is a product of his upbringing). And of course, poor victims.

but prepared to give him the believe he was/is not part of this horror.

You must be able to suspend your disbelief to ridiculous heights to really give this view the time of day.

For heavens sake. If he were completely innocent in all this you would at least expect to see empathy for Epstein's victims. But no, nothing but a psychopathic level of coldness - he couldn't care less about them.

As another poster says, 'what I, I mean what he was doing'.

There just isn't room to really seriously subscribe to the view that he wasn't complicit in what was going on.

Wonder why they haven't been used to support him?

Because everyone in his immediate circle will know that he's guilty as sin.

Prince Andrew has never said “I did not meet this lady” he has said “I have no recollection of meeting this lady”.
Subtle but important difference so that when video footage of him on the cctv inside JE’s house surfaces, he can say that he “forgot”...

It is clear how PA benefited from the relationship SF £££ - but what was JE getting from the relationship. I was just reading about PM ( Mandy's) relationship with JE apparently he was introduced by Maxwell too. For a bankrupt criminals daughter she moved in very well connected circles......

Kevin Maguire (MGN) made a comment on GMB yesterday morning saying EM question should have been: did PA have sex with "anyone" at JE mansions?

Does this lead us to believe that JE did not only supply girls ???

Here is a link to an interview with a MSM journalist, who backs herself up with evidencial tests.

I agree with her comments, that the general public are just not ready to accept the truth yet, about the 'establishment' because it rocks us to our foundations:

I always thought that PA “batted for the other side”, as it were.

What a vile creature he is and the RF not much better for supporting him.

Moomin8

I went on to say how I had changed my mind, if you read the full post.

Can someone please explain or leave a link to the code words? Do not want to google "pedophile code words" for obvious reasons!

What does a victim of abuse have to do in order to be given the same "innocent until proven guilty" treatment by those who are so quick to condemn them as a liar simply for speaking the truth of the terrible things done to them?

@lookatthebabypenguin beggars belief, it's as if people don't realise that the percentage of men who rape/sexually assault is many, many magnitudes larger than the percentage of women who'd lie about it happening to them.

How would he prove that he didn't have sex with her though?

Unless he could prove that he was elsewhere on the dates in question?

Even if he didn’t have sex with her - and I am pretty adamant he did - there are so many other morally questionable things he did do. Because if his position. Even if he hasn’t abused underage children, he has abused his privilege.

And I am pretty sure too that the reason he didn’t stay in a hotel when he went to see Epstein in 2010 was so that he wouldn’t be accountable for using he public purse for trips to see convicted paedophiles. It was dodging another bullet at best. Continuing to enjoy the spoils of his friend at worst.

And I were him, to put an end to the public interrogations, i would be presenting myself at the police station, having my diary scrutinised, having them speak to witnesses at the pizza express party (presumably his daughters friends) and allowing them access to my emails and phone to prove my innocence. Not just bleating “I didn’t swear at the time so a medical condition says I didn’t do it”. Show the police the medical file. Stand up and say “the police have spoken with me and there is no case to answer to” instead of feeding everyone shit lines about travelling clothes

Interesting that he has not done this in the 10 years it has dogged him.