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I was in prison in my early twenties, AMA

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Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 06:53

I was in prison about 18 years ago, between the ages of 19-22. I now volunteer with charities supporting female prisoners. AMA

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Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:27

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 08:26

Wow, that poster is racist - two black hands around the gun. Having followed the link, l can’t quite believe it was produced in 2024.

I don't think it was as it is Trident. I think the site put it there in 2024.

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whattheneighboursthink · Yesterday 08:27

I think anyone who uses their criminal behaviour and prison experience to garner attention, favour or notoriety is deeply unpleasant. Those that use that experience as employment, paid or not, are not people I want anything to do with.

A company I worked for paid a large sum of money to a white collar crime ex con to lecture us about why we should ensure we stuck strictly to guidance and rules regarding client monies. A fucking ex con lecturing law abiding citizens and raking in cash doing so. Once a con, always a con. Convict to con artist.

Why do law abiding people fall for this shit?

Ex Prison Service

ForeverNowWithin · Yesterday 08:29

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:48

No, because I was the tenant of a home where a gun was found after a planned police raid for drugs and guns.

So what crime or crimes were you actually convicted of?

And have you ever had any convictions or police cautions since?

allthingsinmoderation · Yesterday 08:29

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:25

Possession of a firearm

Seems harsh as you didn't reside at the flat and the firearm wasn't yours.
Did you feel you had good legal advice/representation?

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:29

whattheneighboursthink · Yesterday 08:27

I think anyone who uses their criminal behaviour and prison experience to garner attention, favour or notoriety is deeply unpleasant. Those that use that experience as employment, paid or not, are not people I want anything to do with.

A company I worked for paid a large sum of money to a white collar crime ex con to lecture us about why we should ensure we stuck strictly to guidance and rules regarding client monies. A fucking ex con lecturing law abiding citizens and raking in cash doing so. Once a con, always a con. Convict to con artist.

Why do law abiding people fall for this shit?

Ex Prison Service

Were you a screw?

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Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 08:30

whattheneighboursthink · Yesterday 08:27

I think anyone who uses their criminal behaviour and prison experience to garner attention, favour or notoriety is deeply unpleasant. Those that use that experience as employment, paid or not, are not people I want anything to do with.

A company I worked for paid a large sum of money to a white collar crime ex con to lecture us about why we should ensure we stuck strictly to guidance and rules regarding client monies. A fucking ex con lecturing law abiding citizens and raking in cash doing so. Once a con, always a con. Convict to con artist.

Why do law abiding people fall for this shit?

Ex Prison Service

This is such a weird post to make

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:30

allthingsinmoderation · Yesterday 08:29

Seems harsh as you didn't reside at the flat and the firearm wasn't yours.
Did you feel you had good legal advice/representation?

Yeah. I just think it was at a time where they wanted to make an example of this type of thing and they were mad because they couldn't catch him and they'd been trying for ages.

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Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:31

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 08:30

This is such a weird post to make

Experience tells me that it is almost definitely a screw..I believe they were too. No lies told.

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dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 08:31

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:55

I think most of the answer lies in eradicating inequality in society. If you think most women in prison are women from a unstable background, history of abuse, dependency, survival sex work and then crime when that becomes less of an option, then social interventions could change their course.

Then you have people who are a danger to others and should be isolated for that reason. They probably need something closer to a hospital and should never have "free reign" in society again. I don't just mean murderers either. Some people are just cruel and/or violent.

That‘s interesting! That has been my viewpoint for a long time. I think as a country the underinvestment in helping young families, youth clubs and schools has been a big mistake and has ended up costing us more money than we have saved. Good foundations are vital! I know a young woman who was brought up by her lovely grandmother until she was 5 or 6 (because her mother was ill). She then went to her mum who was cruel and abusive and at age 12 was fostered by a family who kept her safe but were very stingy and spent no time with her. She came out of that in one piece, I think because she had a very good start in life (with her grandmother).

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:31

ForeverNowWithin · Yesterday 08:29

So what crime or crimes were you actually convicted of?

And have you ever had any convictions or police cautions since?

Edited

Possession of a firearm.

No.

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Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 08:31

Newstartplease24 · Yesterday 08:17

That poster is quite racist. Also it offers no reassurance that you will be protected for speaking up

do you still know your tenant?

Trident did target black gang members.

it was the 90s/ 00s- there was no protection for speaking up, it was less sophisticated then and they just relied on threatening you

allthingsinmoderation · Yesterday 08:34

whattheneighboursthink · Yesterday 08:27

I think anyone who uses their criminal behaviour and prison experience to garner attention, favour or notoriety is deeply unpleasant. Those that use that experience as employment, paid or not, are not people I want anything to do with.

A company I worked for paid a large sum of money to a white collar crime ex con to lecture us about why we should ensure we stuck strictly to guidance and rules regarding client monies. A fucking ex con lecturing law abiding citizens and raking in cash doing so. Once a con, always a con. Convict to con artist.

Why do law abiding people fall for this shit?

Ex Prison Service

Do you think those with a criminal past can be rehabilitated at all?
Do you think the experience of those who have a criminal past/prison can ever be used positively as a learning experience/deterrant?

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:34

Newstartplease24 · Yesterday 08:17

That poster is quite racist. Also it offers no reassurance that you will be protected for speaking up

do you still know your tenant?

She is in my "people you may know" on Facebook. She's fine. But not in contact.

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Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:36

mulberrymilk · Yesterday 08:18

This is a very interesting thread. Thank you for your frankness.

Did you have to share a cell? I think that would be difficult. How big are the cells in the prison you were in?

Yes most of the time. It's about as big as a box room in houses with box rooms! That's how it felt anyway. I actually don't know the dimensions but I know we don't have a set size in the UK..

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Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:37

Or England at least.

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ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 08:41

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:27

Oh, I'd go as far too say the majority of women in prison fit this bill. Especially those who are in and out.

Yes, it did seem to be mainly women in these situations. It’s a fact that many people with MH and cognitive difficulties end up in prison because they have been failed by inadequate services until they cross into criminality, and at that point there is simply nowhere else for them to go. If so many are also repeat offenders then it’s clear that prison doesn’t offer any help in addressing the reasons they are there in the first place. So depressing.

mulberrymilk · Yesterday 08:42

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:36

Yes most of the time. It's about as big as a box room in houses with box rooms! That's how it felt anyway. I actually don't know the dimensions but I know we don't have a set size in the UK..

The timetable sounded quite nice to me, but then I remembered going back into the cell and the sharing a space aspect, which would be a nightmare for me (aside from any hostile or violent inmates and prison officers, etc). It's good you came out of your experiences so well.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 08:46

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:27

I don't think it was as it is Trident. I think the site put it there in 2024.

Ah, that’ll be why, thanks.

Cherrytree86 · Yesterday 08:48

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:00

Close family. Lots of shared, strong values. I think the polite way of saying it would be that we are a hustling family but many of us have legit businesses at this point and that's our only income.

@Lexibletheflexible

what is a “hustling family”?

saraclara · Yesterday 08:48

Did your tenant ever express any guilt or remorse for you going to prison and her going free?

cantpullthetrigger · Yesterday 08:50

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:24

Yes, most of the time I shared.

Lots of relationships. Lots of unethical relationships. Lots of sexual exploitation, too.

Can you share more about what you observed on this theme?

QueenStevie · Yesterday 08:52

Thank you for your honesty. This is a fascinating thread.

I think my biggest issue of being inside (notwithstanding being away from family obviously) would be the shared facilities. I just can't imagine using a toilet in a tiny room with another person that I don't really know.

Duvetdayneeded · Yesterday 08:58

You were convicted and putt in prison for possession of a firearm in a property that you were not living in, but you were illegally subletting, and you never handled that firearm? Not your first offence then I assume.

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 08:59

saraclara · Yesterday 08:48

Did your tenant ever express any guilt or remorse for you going to prison and her going free?

No. She felt as if she was a total victim in it all. I dint blame her though, it's how she was raised. I should have been smarter. I thought she was an ideal candidate because she was who she was. Someone with a different background would not have ingratiated themselves with the "locals".

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Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 09:00

Duvetdayneeded · Yesterday 08:58

You were convicted and putt in prison for possession of a firearm in a property that you were not living in, but you were illegally subletting, and you never handled that firearm? Not your first offence then I assume.

It was.

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