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I was in prison in my early twenties, AMA

368 replies

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 06:53

I was in prison about 18 years ago, between the ages of 19-22. I now volunteer with charities supporting female prisoners. AMA

OP posts:
Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 09:03

Duvetdayneeded · Yesterday 08:58

You were convicted and putt in prison for possession of a firearm in a property that you were not living in, but you were illegally subletting, and you never handled that firearm? Not your first offence then I assume.

You clearly don’t believe OP and are at risk of getting more and more outrageous to get her to rise to your bait. Just leave it here, you’re not going to get what you want from the post.

either take it for what it is or bog off

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 09:04

QueenStevie · Yesterday 08:52

Thank you for your honesty. This is a fascinating thread.

I think my biggest issue of being inside (notwithstanding being away from family obviously) would be the shared facilities. I just can't imagine using a toilet in a tiny room with another person that I don't really know.

Someone once said that it isn't much different to the awkward poos you have to do in hotel rooms with a new partner. I think that is accurate in many ways.

You do find ways around it to offer some privacy. However, it is definitely one of the things things that is inhumane, and used to punish. Like the screen used to provide privacy suddenly going missing when you are out of your cell. Maybe directly after you pissed off a PO.

OP posts:
Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 09:05

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 09:03

You clearly don’t believe OP and are at risk of getting more and more outrageous to get her to rise to your bait. Just leave it here, you’re not going to get what you want from the post.

either take it for what it is or bog off

Oh is that the ex prison staff?

OP posts:
Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 09:05

I've got to go to work now. I shall return.

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NCForOneNightOnly · Yesterday 09:10

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:17

Probably drug addicts and the people who love them.

No damage whatsoever to communities then? Just the addicts and their immediate family?

floppybit · Yesterday 09:18

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 08:26

Wow, that poster is racist - two black hands around the gun. Having followed the link, l can’t quite believe it was produced in 2024.

I don’t see how this is racist. Perhaps they are aiming to realistically reflect the demographic of the areas they are working in.

worryingday · Yesterday 09:19

whattheneighboursthink · Yesterday 08:27

I think anyone who uses their criminal behaviour and prison experience to garner attention, favour or notoriety is deeply unpleasant. Those that use that experience as employment, paid or not, are not people I want anything to do with.

A company I worked for paid a large sum of money to a white collar crime ex con to lecture us about why we should ensure we stuck strictly to guidance and rules regarding client monies. A fucking ex con lecturing law abiding citizens and raking in cash doing so. Once a con, always a con. Convict to con artist.

Why do law abiding people fall for this shit?

Ex Prison Service

I have met many people who have been in prison who have gained employment in charities that aim to deter young people from crime. Their lived experience is invaluable. No way would someone like me for example (never been in a prison, no exposure to organised crime) talking to them about the consequences and reality of prison have the same impact as someone who has lived it.

Also what the hell is a 'white collar ex con'? You seem to think everyone who is in prison is some different species. The few acquaintances I know personally who have been in prison were actually all middle class, educated and successful people who made poor decisions (taking clients' money) out of complete desperation when their businesses were struggling, just to try and keep things afloat. I think any of us could be pushed into desperate circumstances where we might be tempted to break a law. So I can see why the talk you describe by an 'ex-con' would be worthwhile.

Redburnett · Yesterday 09:20

When I sat on a jury the judge advised us that just possessing something didn't make the defendant guilty, what was critical was whether they knew they possessed it. So i am surprised that your defence lawyers were not able to argue that you didn't know the gun was there in the flat, and use the fact you didn't live there, but were illegally subletting, to support your case.

ThatLilacTiger · Yesterday 09:24

How strongly do you feel about avoiding going back to prison? Is it like a desperate "I'm never going back, you can't take me alive" feeling or less dramatic than that?

2mumlife · Yesterday 09:26

What education / classes etc were you offered, and do you think they are of value?

FarmersWifeOf30Years · Yesterday 09:28

Did the man who hid the gun at the house ever get caught for anything else? Is he still in the same area and have you seen him since?

NCForOneNightOnly · Yesterday 09:29

Were you given another council property afterwards?

MajorProcrastination · Yesterday 09:31

What do you think could be done better for people coming out of prison so that they can get their lives on track and not reoffend?

I'm thinking of men I know who've been in, one wasn't allowed to live with his mum because she was bringing up his children and he couldn't go in the house, she felt this meant he was immediately influenced by the people who he'd been involved with to get him inside in the first place before he'd even had a chance to see any family or be kept in a safe and familiar place where he could better have motivation not to repeat his previous behaviour (trying not to give any details but it was drug related).

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 09:33

Redburnett · Yesterday 09:20

When I sat on a jury the judge advised us that just possessing something didn't make the defendant guilty, what was critical was whether they knew they possessed it. So i am surprised that your defence lawyers were not able to argue that you didn't know the gun was there in the flat, and use the fact you didn't live there, but were illegally subletting, to support your case.

Was that related to a gun though?

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 09:33

FarmersWifeOf30Years · Yesterday 09:28

Did the man who hid the gun at the house ever get caught for anything else? Is he still in the same area and have you seen him since?

This is such a great question- looking forward to the answer!

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 09:36

Redburnett · Yesterday 09:20

When I sat on a jury the judge advised us that just possessing something didn't make the defendant guilty, what was critical was whether they knew they possessed it. So i am surprised that your defence lawyers were not able to argue that you didn't know the gun was there in the flat, and use the fact you didn't live there, but were illegally subletting, to support your case.

It’s still OP’s name on the tenancy so she’s ultimately responsible for what goes on there. They couldn’t prove the girl she was subletting to knew that the gun was there, so they went for OP as the tenant instead.

researchers3 · Yesterday 09:42

Newstartplease24 · Yesterday 08:17

That poster is quite racist. Also it offers no reassurance that you will be protected for speaking up

do you still know your tenant?

Very racist!

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 09:52

I don't know if it was difficult to find other jobs, I just didnt want to have to work hours I don't choose myself

You said you were still dealing after leaving prison, so was "choosing your own hours" anything to do with regular hours interfering with this?

And are you still dealing, but being more careful not to get caught?

BountifulPantry · Yesterday 10:13

Such a great thread OP- thanks for this.

If one thing could change to prevent women going to prison, what do you think that would be?

TokyoTantrum · Yesterday 10:30

What was your access to learning materials/books like in prison? Like did you get 15 minutes once a week to go pick something out?

How many hours a day would just be in the cell? I've heard it's quite bad with a lot of UK prisons.

Did you have commissary like in US prisons where you can buy extra food or certain items?

What luxury or freedom did you miss the most?

itsanamething · Yesterday 10:32

worryingday · Yesterday 09:19

I have met many people who have been in prison who have gained employment in charities that aim to deter young people from crime. Their lived experience is invaluable. No way would someone like me for example (never been in a prison, no exposure to organised crime) talking to them about the consequences and reality of prison have the same impact as someone who has lived it.

Also what the hell is a 'white collar ex con'? You seem to think everyone who is in prison is some different species. The few acquaintances I know personally who have been in prison were actually all middle class, educated and successful people who made poor decisions (taking clients' money) out of complete desperation when their businesses were struggling, just to try and keep things afloat. I think any of us could be pushed into desperate circumstances where we might be tempted to break a law. So I can see why the talk you describe by an 'ex-con' would be worthwhile.

White collar -v- blue collar is a term to describe workers based on the type of shirt they'd wear. Blue collar tends to involve manual labour. White collar the opposite. Presumably a white collar crime would involve something like embezzlement.

Blondeshavemorefun · Yesterday 10:33

Seems a harsh sentence if you truly didn’t know a gun was there

someone I know has come out from prison. He held up a betting shop I think for money due to gambling issues - he got a much lesser sentence then you - think was in for a year ish and out early for good behaviour

tho he has struggled big time since coming out / he’s on probation but finding a job is very hard

no one wants to employ a convicted criminal it seems

what he did he had knowledge of and to me seems a more serious crime v you being the owner of a place and not knowing that a gun/illegal stuff going on

did you try and find a job employed work but relieses hard and why you went self employed

Datgal · Yesterday 10:34

TheyGrewUp · Yesterday 08:14

How did you get a council flat as a single, childless teenager in the first place?

I got one when I was 22. No kids and single. I'd had my name down for a while. My mum told me to do it, as private renting even then (20 odd years ago) was really hard on your own.

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 10:36

We have some of the strictest gun laws in the world, gun crime is heavily punished. Even using a replica gun to hold somewhere up is considered armed robbery

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 10:37

Datgal · Yesterday 10:34

I got one when I was 22. No kids and single. I'd had my name down for a while. My mum told me to do it, as private renting even then (20 odd years ago) was really hard on your own.

It was much much easier in the 90s to get a council flat

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