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I was in prison in my early twenties, AMA

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Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 06:53

I was in prison about 18 years ago, between the ages of 19-22. I now volunteer with charities supporting female prisoners. AMA

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09s · Yesterday 07:17

We’re you scared in prison when you first arrived, of the other women?

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:17

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 07:03

Who did you damage or hurt by your continued actions?

Probably drug addicts and the people who love them.

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Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:18

09s · Yesterday 07:17

We’re you scared in prison when you first arrived, of the other women?

Yes but mostly the ones who shouldn't be in a "normal" prison because they are mentally ill or impaired.

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Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 07:20

are there any ways the record still affects your day to day life? Getting credit, taking roles (you say you volunteer?) etc?

6ate9 · Yesterday 07:21

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:18

Yes but mostly the ones who shouldn't be in a "normal" prison because they are mentally ill or impaired.

That must’ve been incredibly scary. Were you ever attacked by another inmate?

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 07:21

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 07:03

Who did you damage or hurt by your continued actions?

“Continued”??

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:22

09s · Yesterday 07:16

God I did much worse than that. You didn’t deserve to go to prison for any of that

Yeah. That's the thing. What occurred to me is that this is totally unfair to many women who are completely hoodwinked by a guy through their own naivety.

The young woman I subletted to had no idea this guy was in a gang and a high level drug dealer with firearms because he didnt have his jeans sagging and was generally polite and well socialised.

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09s · Yesterday 07:22

Did you share a cell? And were there many relationships going on in there?

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:23

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 07:21

“Continued”??

They were referring to what I said about only changing my criminal behaviour when I had children opposed to when I went to jail. That was probably because I never got caught for what I actually did.

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allthingsinmoderation · Yesterday 07:23

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:12

I had a council properry in London which I illegally subletted to someone I didn't know that well but thought I could trust. It was a middle classed female uni student. I lived with my boyfriend elsewhere and would stay at at the flat occasionally. Store clothes there etc. Nothing illegal. The subletting was illegal.

She met someone local and he was keeping drugs and guns in the flat. She didn't know. The police were watching him and raided the house on a day where we were both there and he was not (they thought he was).

Long story short, it was at a time where they were making an example of women and girls who they felt were holding drugs and firearms for gang members. There were actual posters that highlighted this made by the Met. I was the tenant of the property and on paper, seemed more like I'd know the guy than she would. After the case against him didn't go very far, they came for me and her. And then just me. They had very little forensic evidence to say who had interacted with the things they found. Most of it got dropped, a firearms charge remained.

I don't want to make out there wasnt things I was doing where I could have got similar time but I wasnt caught for that.

Were you aware he was keeping guns and drugs at the flat?
What was the offence you were convicted of and how long was your sentence /did you serve in prison?
Was this your first offence?
what was the worst thing about being imprisone and what surprised you?

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:24

09s · Yesterday 07:22

Did you share a cell? And were there many relationships going on in there?

Yes, most of the time I shared.

Lots of relationships. Lots of unethical relationships. Lots of sexual exploitation, too.

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Maomee · Yesterday 07:24

While you were in there did you do much reflection, and did they offer anything to help with that or education opportunities etc?

MyDarlingRose · Yesterday 07:25

Are you OK? I can’t imagine the trauma

TepidBathwater · Yesterday 07:26

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:12

I had a council properry in London which I illegally subletted to someone I didn't know that well but thought I could trust. It was a middle classed female uni student. I lived with my boyfriend elsewhere and would stay at at the flat occasionally. Store clothes there etc. Nothing illegal. The subletting was illegal.

She met someone local and he was keeping drugs and guns in the flat. She didn't know. The police were watching him and raided the house on a day where we were both there and he was not (they thought he was).

Long story short, it was at a time where they were making an example of women and girls who they felt were holding drugs and firearms for gang members. There were actual posters that highlighted this made by the Met. I was the tenant of the property and on paper, seemed more like I'd know the guy than she would. After the case against him didn't go very far, they came for me and her. And then just me. They had very little forensic evidence to say who had interacted with the things they found. Most of it got dropped, a firearms charge remained.

I don't want to make out there wasnt things I was doing where I could have got similar time but I wasnt caught for that.

So are you saying you got three years wrongly, because the CPS didn’t believe you didn’t know the male tenant was a criminal stashing weapons and drugs at your illegal sublet, but that you were also knowingly committing criminal acts that could, if you’d been caught, got you a similar sentence?

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 07:27

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:23

They were referring to what I said about only changing my criminal behaviour when I had children opposed to when I went to jail. That was probably because I never got caught for what I actually did.

I’m confused by this- you said you went to prison for indirectly subletting to a gang member- but then after you came out you continued some criminal behaviour up until you had children?

thats not really come across in your posts

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:27

allthingsinmoderation · Yesterday 07:23

Were you aware he was keeping guns and drugs at the flat?
What was the offence you were convicted of and how long was your sentence /did you serve in prison?
Was this your first offence?
what was the worst thing about being imprisone and what surprised you?

I didnt even know he was staying there. I thought she bought weed off of him and his friends and that was it. Had no idea she would start sleeping with him. Didnt think he would be her type TBH but I didnt get that she didnt see exactly what he was.

Just under 5 years was the sentence. I did 3.5. Yes first offence. I think i had a caution as s youth for a school fight but it wasnt on my record.

Worst thing is not being with family. I was surprised at how many women with cognitive impairment, severe mental illness and a very low IQ are in jail. It's the same in men's prisons.

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MyDarlingRose · Yesterday 07:28

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 07:20

are there any ways the record still affects your day to day life? Getting credit, taking roles (you say you volunteer?) etc?

Well she won’t be allowed in lots of countries with a gun charge. Can never emigrate etc.

TepidBathwater · Yesterday 07:28

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:22

Yeah. That's the thing. What occurred to me is that this is totally unfair to many women who are completely hoodwinked by a guy through their own naivety.

The young woman I subletted to had no idea this guy was in a gang and a high level drug dealer with firearms because he didnt have his jeans sagging and was generally polite and well socialised.

I find that hard to believe. She was clearly similarly overlooking the presence of guns and drugs, presumably in amounts designed for more than personal use, in a flat that can’t have been the size of Chatsworth.

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:29

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 07:27

I’m confused by this- you said you went to prison for indirectly subletting to a gang member- but then after you came out you continued some criminal behaviour up until you had children?

thats not really come across in your posts

I was already doing criminal stuff like selling drugs and other stuff associated with that lifestyle. I just never got caught for any of that. I didn't stop when I came out of prison initially, either.

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ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 07:30

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:23

They were referring to what I said about only changing my criminal behaviour when I had children opposed to when I went to jail. That was probably because I never got caught for what I actually did.

So where you actually dealing yourself?

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 07:32

MyDarlingRose · Yesterday 07:28

Well she won’t be allowed in lots of countries with a gun charge. Can never emigrate etc.

obviously I can google the actual implications. I wanted to know from the poster what affects her.

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 07:33

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:29

I was already doing criminal stuff like selling drugs and other stuff associated with that lifestyle. I just never got caught for any of that. I didn't stop when I came out of prison initially, either.

I can totally understand thinking you’ll never get caught. I’ve experienced that before too.

Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:34

TepidBathwater · Yesterday 07:28

I find that hard to believe. She was clearly similarly overlooking the presence of guns and drugs, presumably in amounts designed for more than personal use, in a flat that can’t have been the size of Chatsworth.

He kept some bags of what she thought were clothes. This girl really had no idea at all. She romanticised the whole thing. I assumed that everyone close to my age had the same "Street smarts" as me. Especially if they took drugs themselves and bought them off people like him.

They couldn't prove she did know and it wasnt her flat, it was mine. Easier to make it stick against me, especially when it appears as if I won't help them get him. I didnt have the info to help them get him even if I would have done that.

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Lexibletheflexible · Yesterday 07:35

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 07:33

I can totally understand thinking you’ll never get caught. I’ve experienced that before too.

It wasnt that I thought I'd never get caught, I had never been caught. Before kids, the risk of being caught seemed worthwhile. That changed after kids.

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Blondeshavemorefun · Yesterday 07:35

So you got 5yrs for something you didnt actually do /have knowledge of - apart from subletting illegally

yet was doing other illegal stuff you didn’t get caught for

and once out , you still carried on misbehaving but didn’t get caught again

did the friend get a sentence and do you tell people in real life you have been to prison but ‘wrongly’

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