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To think the treatment of Camilla and Meghan Markle exposes a glaring double standard?

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ThatQuickLimePombear · 04/11/2026 20:30

If the Royal Family and the British public can find room for forgiveness, reinvention and a literal CROWN for Camilla, why does extending even a little grace to Meghan Markle seem to be such a controversial concept? I’m genuinely baffled as to why one woman can be rehabilitated to the point of becoming Queen while the other seems to be treated as irredeemable.

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Benjithedog · 05/11/2026 11:10

BusyGreySnail · 05/11/2026 10:04

My post was in response to that point exactly. If you are comparing the two and saying Camilla didn't not report known sexual abuse of children, then yes, yes she did.

What on earth are you talking about?

DuckFilledPlatitude · 05/11/2026 11:11

Benjithedog · 05/11/2026 11:09

Why on earth would you think they are being unfairly criticised? They are being criticised and held to account for their lies and behaviour. They are not beyond reproach.

I don't think anyone on the planet is 'beyond reproach'.

Benjithedog · 05/11/2026 11:11

montysmaw · 05/11/2026 09:13

Do we prefer people who maintain a lengthy affair with a married man?

Didn’t Diana also do this with Oliver Hore?

lljkk · 05/11/2026 11:13

Can I say the obvious, that MM ruined reputation of the (wildly) most popular Royal (Harry). That is no mean feat.

A lot of people with mixed race heritage don't look mixed race or even come across as multi-cultural (beyond a birth nationality not being British): that includes MM.

It's sad that she's estranged from her dad. That must be very tough. He was the stable rock in her childhood.

I reckon few of her critics care about her racial heritage. Her model of standing up for herself involves directly engaging and trying to manipulate her own public image, with the most news coverage when she drags royal names and the whole RF institution into the mud. This strategy backfires, MM comes across as attention-seeking and tedious. I'd be happy if she could just go back to being a successful actress. She must be good at something besides trying to be an influencer & dishing dirt on the RF, right?

Benjithedog · 05/11/2026 11:14

DuckFilledPlatitude · 05/11/2026 11:11

I don't think anyone on the planet is 'beyond reproach'.

Well considering you don’t watch a lot about her or read about her you will have no idea why people are criticising her and Harry’s behaviour . And it’s a little odd to me that you are calling people racist for having the options they do when you don’t know anything about it .

Topseyt123 · 05/11/2026 11:31

Benjithedog · 05/11/2026 11:11

Didn’t Diana also do this with Oliver Hore?

Yes, and James Hewitt.

Charles and Diana were a totally unsuitable match who should never have been pushed towards marriage, by either of their families.

EvieBB · 05/11/2026 11:32

ColdAsAWitches · 04/11/2026 20:35

It's not that baffling. She's a brown American,"not one of us". And people are idiots.

Nope that's not it
She's a shit stirring liar.
That's the reason

EvieBB · 05/11/2026 11:33

Flamingojune · 04/11/2026 20:39

Ah yes the world prefers quiet women

Nope
The world prefers people who don't lie and have integrity 🙄

LeftieRightsHoarder · 05/11/2026 11:53

Handbagsandoldcurtains · 04/11/2026 21:05

Last time I looked, Camilla didn’t tell quite so many whopping great lies and Hasn’t avoided reporting a relative for child sex abuse even though they claim to have known about it. Since 2018. Sorry 2019.

No, she just colluded for years with a married man to lie, cheat and gaslight the teenaged girl he married for his own convenience. This eventually sent Diana off the rails, which led to her death. She was a starry-eyed teenager who fell in love with a prince and thought he loved her.

How Charles had the cheek to act like a moral authority against Andrew amazes me. Charles lied when he made his marriage vows, and kept up his relationship with Camilla throughout his marriage. Camilla helped him ruin a naive teenager’s life. They are both shameless.

Benjithedog · 05/11/2026 11:58

LeftieRightsHoarder · 05/11/2026 11:53

No, she just colluded for years with a married man to lie, cheat and gaslight the teenaged girl he married for his own convenience. This eventually sent Diana off the rails, which led to her death. She was a starry-eyed teenager who fell in love with a prince and thought he loved her.

How Charles had the cheek to act like a moral authority against Andrew amazes me. Charles lied when he made his marriage vows, and kept up his relationship with Camilla throughout his marriage. Camilla helped him ruin a naive teenager’s life. They are both shameless.

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And Diana did the same to her lovers wives

LeftieRightsHoarder · 05/11/2026 12:07

Benjithedog · 05/11/2026 11:58

And Diana did the same to her lovers wives

Yes, as I said, Charles’s unfaithfulness and gaslighting sent her off the rails.

luckylavender · 05/11/2026 12:07

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · 04/11/2026 20:36

Because Camilla just went about life quietly.

I'm no fan of Camilla's but she hasn't put a foot wrong since she and Charles 'came out'. She seems good with people, has learned what to do and kept her opinions to herself. Meghan wanted to change everything as soon as she arrived and is not so discrete,

Mamma11818282 · 05/11/2026 12:18

Similarly, Charles had his scandals, cooperated with a biography and did an interview to get his side of the story out - I’m not surprised Harry feels justified in doing similar.

Springtimeinsunshine · 05/11/2026 12:20

One is a humongous liar...

Benjithedog · 05/11/2026 12:23

LeftieRightsHoarder · 05/11/2026 12:07

Yes, as I said, Charles’s unfaithfulness and gaslighting sent her off the rails.

Sorry but you can’t blame someone else for your own behaviour. It was several marriages that Diana got in the middle of.

BusyGreySnail · 05/11/2026 12:24

Benjithedog · 05/11/2026 11:10

What on earth are you talking about?

Read the quote history if you don't understand.

Benjithedog · 05/11/2026 12:25

BusyGreySnail · 05/11/2026 12:24

Read the quote history if you don't understand.

Still doesn’t make sense

MeghanAndTheSeals · 05/11/2026 12:28

ThatQuickLimePombear · 04/11/2026 20:30

If the Royal Family and the British public can find room for forgiveness, reinvention and a literal CROWN for Camilla, why does extending even a little grace to Meghan Markle seem to be such a controversial concept? I’m genuinely baffled as to why one woman can be rehabilitated to the point of becoming Queen while the other seems to be treated as irredeemable.

Hmm. So genuinely baffled that you decided to post re your bafflement - and then not bother engaging with the 100+ replies that you’ve had. Very rude not to engage with your own thread.

thisismeithinkorisit · 05/11/2026 12:31

LeftieRightsHoarder · 05/11/2026 12:07

Yes, as I said, Charles’s unfaithfulness and gaslighting sent her off the rails.

so it's Charles fault who Diana had sex with, even as an adult? why aren't you angry at her parents for not protecting her if she was so young and unable to make her own choices?

when you say that's what lead to her death do you mean it was planned, or that the path of her life meant she was in that car at that moment for it to happen? if you run a parallel life where he kept it in his pants and they stayed together, maybe they would both have been in a car at that moment in that place. maybe the marriage would have ended for other reasons and she'd have been in that time and place instead. there were a million decisions that lead to that moment, even down to shall we leave now, go there or stay in and have sex again / shall we not drive like idiots and pursue Diana's car / shall I stop the car or speed up?

Makeyourownmister · 05/11/2026 12:33

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · 04/11/2026 20:36

Because Camilla just went about life quietly.

It’s interesting you say this.

Having watched the Vintage Reads podcast on You Tube, I have been reading a book from the charity shop called “Battle of the Brothers” by Robert Lacey, which says on page 94 of the hardback;

“According to Stuart Higgins, a royal correspondent in the 1980s and later editor of the Sun, Camilla Parker Bowles provided him with regular off-the-record briefings about the state of the royal marriage from 1982 to 1992.

‘I talked to her once a week for ten years’ Higgins told Sally Bedale Smith in 1999.
´I talked to her about Diana and Charles. She guided me on things that were not true, or things that were off the beam. Everything was behind closed doors and I didn’t write about her, although I spoke to her all the time during that period. I didn’t sense that she and Charles were out of touch.’

So starting in 1982, the year following Charles and Diana’s wedding, the future Queen Camilla dispensed royal nudges and whispers to one of Britain’s top tabloid reporters in return for his keeping her name out of the papers.”

I can’t believe that more was not made of this when the book was published in 2020?

In fact I had already skim-read this book and failed to spot this passage!

Stuart Higgins is a named source and was the editor of the Sun, an experienced proven journalist, not some self promoting expert on a random podcast.

Diana was therefore only twenty when the briefings from Camilla began. And then she was pregnant twice in her early twenties. She just didn’t have a chance did she being briefed about as she was? She must have been so confused about where all of these stories in the papers were coming from. No wonder she felt the need to strike back with her own book and interview?

The book goes on to describe how Lady Colin Campbell rented an apartment in Cundy Street in the same block of flats in which Camilla and Lucia Santa Cruz had started off their London lives and where Charles had met Camilla.

And funnily enough, it was Stuart Higgins, acting editor of the Sun at that point, who serialised Lady Colin Campbell’s book, Diana in Private, which was markedly pro-Charles and very anti-Diana.

And we know now that Mark Bolland, the PR agent, who was paid a lot of money by Charles, to rehabilitate Camilla’s image, and who it has been speculated in the press, allegedly overstepped his brief and allegedly trashed other members of the RF in the process, according to him, is still in touch with Camilla and lunches with her a few times a year.

And Bolland and his husband Guy Black, now Baron Black of Brentwood, former head of the Press Complaints Commission and Deputy Chair of the Telegraph Media Group,
are apparently both close friends with Rebekah Brooks, who is is currently the CEO of News UK.

(RB has held this position since September 2015, managing the UK media division of Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, which publishes major national titles like The Sun, The Times, and The Sunday Times.)

Two prominent supporters of Rebekah Brooks following the criminal trial in 2014 In which she was found not guilty of conspiracy to hack voicemails, were funnily enough, I will leave you to possibly join the dots or not, were Camilla’s “friends” Piers Morgan and Jeremy Clarkson.

So I think Camilla may indeed have gone
about things “quietly” in public, but behind the scenes, it would appear, allegedly, that she has been pretty active and chummy with her media contacts?

Portakalkedi · 05/11/2026 12:36

What an idiotic comparison. And re the whole Megan being black/ UK are racist thing, I for one would not have known had she not loudly and repeatedly drawn attention to it, and had I not seen photos of her mum. Camilla has class, breeding and dignity, whatever her past, and fits in with the royals, whereas the other has none.

FaceIt · 05/11/2026 12:48

Meghan is a very damaged person and a megalomaniac. It’s got nothing to do with colour.

Andylion · 05/11/2026 12:52

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · 04/11/2026 20:36

Because Camilla just went about life quietly.

This.
Forget the shit about Meghan’s skin colour.

soupcondiment · 05/11/2026 12:56

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · 04/11/2026 20:36

Because Camilla just went about life quietly.

Recollections must vary because the affair & tampon gate were very noisy and constantly in the papers!

soupcondiment · 05/11/2026 12:58

Springtimeinsunshine · 05/11/2026 12:20

One is a humongous liar...

Does an affair usually not require lying?

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