To think the treatment of Camilla and Meghan Markle exposes a glaring double standard?

In this instance the preference is for discretion, nothing to do with being a woman or ethnicity.

Actually they would prefer she was loud mean and made headlines she doesn't she is boring and mainly insignificant keeping her head down she hasnt "been forgiven" (not that the situation was anything to do with us so not ours to forgive) she is just there like a sandwich on a plate part of a picture but ultimately just "there"

Camilla campaigns for victims of sexual and domestic violence, and is a survivor herself. She does not make that survivorship all about her and her "ohmigawd lived truth", she listens, supports and advocates for the charity and cause she supports. For the benefit of said charity.

Did her arrival co-incide with the break up of the C, W and H relationship or did her arrival cause it?

Personally don't find either of them likeable.

I'm always a bit baffled that everyone pins the dislike of MM on her colour when she was lauded when she first became known to the British public.

Remember that beautiful (spectacle) wedding where everyone lined the streets?
She was loved.
I think it's quite racist to say it's to do with her colour.
I don't think Harry or Meghan are likeable people and are both proven liars.

It isn't because Meghan is black, or American.

I feel the majority of the public were happy when they married and looked forward to the fab four in action.

But then she and Harry stropped off to the USA then repeatedly bad mouthed the Royal family. They aren't trusted.

It will take considerable time and effort on their part to rebuild the trust, if they even want to.

William and Co are right to be wary.

I certainly prefer someone who is discreet, professional and good mannered to someone who demands to be the centre of attention, constantly whining complaining, and criticising the UK.

I have huge respect for Camilla but it seems that she had a huge royal PR machine working in her favour for years to address public opinion, whereas the contrary seems to be true for Meghan.

Whether that is due to the actions of either woman, their position in the hierarchy, their willingness or not to follow advice or other factors such as xenophobia or racism, I have no idea.

'Everyone' didn't love Diana, even before she died, I for one thought she was totally wrong for Charles, they were two very different people and not just because of the age difference.

All this stuff about racism because Meghan is “black” is nonsense. When Harry first got together with her, the British public were happy for Harry and prepared to give her a chance. She got the great big white wedding she wanted (at vast expense) despite being a divorcee, but she got the hump because she couldn’t bend a traditional institution to her will, was always going to be married to the “spare” and thus increasingly unimportant as time went on, and declared that she couldn’t believe she was doing royal engagements “without being paid”. She thought it would be all glitz and glamour, whereas Camilla understands that there is a lot of tedium involved in State Dinners, hospital visiting and cutting ribbons. Camilla has never belittled the family into which she married, nor sought to monetise the Royal Family, nor has she said she wants privacy while doing everything in her power to court publicity, particularly when other members of the Royal family are on public engagements. Meghan simply does not understand the institution into which she has married; Camilla does.

Very lazy thinking, brick.

Many of her detractors are themselves black - both on the RF board here, and four of my friends IRL. They criticize her for the same things as have been raised here, but mostly and most vehemently for her disingenuous and casual use of the race card. It’s so dishonest and cheap, when there’s real racism around, to shout “they’re racists” at every perceived slight. And that goes for you, too.

Oh, and she’s a lot less intelligent than she’d have you think!

Why or why does anyone care about any of the Royals? Why?

But further more Harry and Meghan left the RF work affairs long time ago and made a song and dance of it. They want to be private citizens, out of public sight. Or so they said. So why are they still on magazines? I am really fed up of it by now. Let them live their lives in their privacy. End of it, please!

I also remember Kate got a hard time before Meghan arrived. She was kind of depicted as a door mat and a bit lazy to the job. Even scrutinised her having one grey hair! But the level Meghan has been picked apart is unprecedented. They say she tried to destroy the royal family. What is more of a threat to the royal family than a mistress to the future king tempting him away from his duties! Could you imagine ifnshe had? We would have Andrew as the King right now!!! But yes Meghan whose influence on Harry made him more socially aware, become a father, wear a tie and stand up to the media that have been harassing the RF for decades has done the worst!.
There is a double standard and aside from biases around race and nationality, I think who you are in the royal family determines the type of pr your other half gets. Harry was loved by the royals but not very respected as he is not the heir so anyone he brings in would get second rate pr compared to William or Charles I think. I actually think Meghan will somehow turn it around if she stays with Harry I think we will see the tides change in around a decade though in terms of the type of press she receives.

There always seems to be an “inside the tent/outside the tent” element at play, doesn’t there? I remember the snotty media stories about the Middletons (doors to manual and all that) when the Princess of Wales was “Waity Katie,” the commoner who didn’t REALLY belong.

It took decades for Camilla's public profile to be rehabilitated. She kept quiet and put the work in.

Can't stand Camilla personally.
Charles as next in line to the throne wanted to marry her and got his way. They were affair partners. Mucky start but all quiet since then.

Harry married Meghan, as he wished, at a lavish expensive ceremony and the pair of them have been pains in the arses ever since.

Like comparing apples and oranges.

So no one is ever allowed to dislike a person if they arw black? All black people are perfect saints and never ever do anything wrong or dislikeable ever?

How patronising at best

But she has a black mother and a white father so why is only one part of her spoken of?

She has never said the rf are racist. She gave an anecdote of what happened whilst she was living in the institution. The public and the press then claimed what she said proved the rf were racist. She said the Queen was wonderful. She said Kate was fundamentally a good person. Her issue was with the institution (the rf don't call themselves the Firm for nothing btw) and the unique way the uk tabloid press report on her was biased. Harry said some social media commentary was blatantly racist which is truly was and is. They never said the wanted to be away from the public eyes they said they want to earn their own money but still serve the queen which many of the rf actually do!. I do see why they were not allowed to do that as they were in another country and that wouldn't have worked so best to relegate them to private citizens all round. But what they were asking for was NOT unusual.

And so what that many of her detractors are black? That doesn't negate Racism at all so that is an irrelevant point to make. The media headlines were dogwhistle racist, the social media commentary was blatantly explicitly racist and commentators like piers morgan literally said he met her and she was a lovely person but he was annoyed he never got invited to the wedding. That was his beef deep down.
Ultimately Meghan do3snt talk much. Since being back in the UK she wasn't seen in public or spoken in public for several weeks yet the papers had a story multiple times every single day. So it their obsession with her that keeps her relevant. If they just stopped printing stories about her she would go away in everyone's minds because she isn't actually in public very much.

You guys are all a lot younger than me. All the horrible things about Camilla have already been said. The media is now bored and looking for fresh blood.

Kate had her turn as well. They hounded her out of her job at Jigsaw and when her parents offered her a job at Party Pieces instead (which was a successful, medium-sized company pre-Covid) mocked her as doing nothing.

You should have seen them when she and William briefly broke up. His friends went to town slagging her and her mum off. Apparently one of the things which marked her out as unsuitable was liking tomatoes. I don’t know who said this to the papers but it always stuck in my mind because it’s so batshit!

It all feels very obsessive and tabloid. Mostly we are interested.

FFS. Perfectly possible to heartily dislike someone based on their actions rather than their skin colour.

The British public didn’t give Camilla a crown, Charles did. I still chuckle when he refers to her as “the queen “. The institution has enough issues but Camilla as queen illustrates that conduct doesn’t matter to these people. The bloodline will always continue, as well as whomever they choose to bring in through marriage.

I think it’s because publicly, Camilla tried to blend into the institution and began to ‘toe the line’. She dresses and acts the part, she doesn’t attempt to commercialise the role, she keeps tight lipped. She took on the mantle of Queen and the public accepted her.

I haven’t seen any of that from either H or M? They seem to blunder into one PR crisis after another and of course the media is only too happy to shine a light on it.

People are thick that's all. They can't hold more than one thought in their head at once.