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Oceniam · 21/11/2023 22:22

I'm going to keep this as short as possible. My husband works in administration in a hospital environment. It was brought to his attention today by another colleague that a female colleague is on OnlyFans. As my husband is her manager, I asked him what he was going to do, and he isn't sure what to do. What would you do in his situation?

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DottieMoon · 22/11/2023 09:37

Oceniam · 21/11/2023 22:29

Did I not just say that he’s her manager?

Yes you did but we still don't under what it has do with him?

Is it impacting her work? If no, he needs to mind his own business as what she does in her own time and fuck all to do with him or you. I don't even understand why you would be asking him what he is planning to do.

waitholdup · 22/11/2023 09:38

IncompleteSenten · 22/11/2023 09:20

He's a fairly shit one if he told you about it and needs you to ask the internet what to do.

He should have dealt with it on a need to know basis (and his wife is in the 'doesn't need to know' group) and followed the hospital's policy on social media and public behaviour which probably includes reporting it to HR, following their advice and not disclosing it to the general public.

This with bells on - if he wants to ask for advice, he should go to either his line manager or HR

bostonback · 22/11/2023 09:44

One of my colleagues in work does Only Fans as a side income. No one cares. She is free to have a second job and other peoples stigmas and judgements aren’t her problem. Rightly so.

She doesn’t do it in working hours and doesn’t promote it on LinkedIn of course. If some people take offence then that’s on their shoulders and they may benefit from asking themselves why other peoples lives evoke such strong feelings within them.

Goodgirly · 22/11/2023 09:54

TheJabberwocky · 22/11/2023 09:34

I wasn’t the person who said anything about not minding their teacher doing porn. I simply pointed out that your original post sounded contradictory.

But as you’re asking, I’d have no more of a problem with my child watching their teacher so porn than watching anyone else do porn. Everyone who does porn is a human being. I’d want to know what my underage child was doing on Only Fans. And I’d make it clear that the consumer of porn is worse than the perpetrator.

But I also know that I would do anything to put food in my children’s bellies and clothes on their backs and a roof over their heads. And that would include sex work if I had to. I recognise that I’m extremely lucky not to be in that position. I think any of us can find ourselves in positions that can be compromising as situations can change in a flash. So I wouldn’t judge a teacher who felt that was their only option.

Oh, you mean the blame part? If you mean blaming porn stars in general – think probably projection on your part to be quite honest.

If you mean blaming the teacher, yeah the teacher is probably blameworthy IMO. I might not judge financial reasons, but some people have other reasons. But in general I wouldn't really care about moralising, would just want my child in a safe environment.

I’d have no more of a problem with my child watching their teacher so porn than watching anyone else do porn

I think this is an interesting mindset. I think for me, as I said earlier, there would definitely be heightened safeguarding concerns re: a teacher versus stranger.

  1. A child is even more likely to click on something they know they shouldn't click on if it's a trusted adult. Yeah, we can all pretend we're perfect parents with foolproof parenting, but that's not true.

  2. A child is even more likely to believe trusted adults getting naked with them and being sexual is OK if they see a trusted adult doing just that online.

  3. And personally to me, gender respect/equality as modelled by trusted adults is important as well.

And I’d make it clear that the consumer of porn is worse than the perpetrator.

I don't disagree with the essence of this (although if I had to dispute it, I would say the actual perpetrators i.e. those creating and distributing the porn industry, invariably male and wealthy, are the worst ones).

But perhaps not in the context of children viewing adults around them do porn. If my DD stumbles upon her teacher Mr Brown's willy, and gets curious looking for more, I'd want her to let me know, not make her feel like she's done something wrong and got poor Mr Brown into trouble!

Nowherenew · 22/11/2023 09:56

Cheesyfootballs01 · 22/11/2023 09:34

Ah I see you have mis quoted me… I never said all NHS employees are idiots - I said HE was an idiot….

Yes people talk about work with their partners but is he really that incompetent that he can’t deal with this on his own?

And does the wife/partner really need to post on a forum to ask random people what to do??

I never said that you said all NHS employees are idiots.
But you said the NHS is on its knees because of people like him.

He’s not done anything wrongs and in fact sounds like a decent person by not jumping the gun and talking it through first.

If you think OP is an idiot for posting about it then say that, but that’s nothing to do with him or his job.

Lucyintheskywithadiamond · 22/11/2023 09:57

He should do fuck all, none of his business but he should be having words with the sad twat who was looking and decided to report her. Is your DH new to line management or just clueless? Sounds like he is clueless given that he has just divulged confidential employee information to you and you have decided to plaster on a public forum.

TheJabberwocky · 22/11/2023 09:58

Goodgirly · 22/11/2023 09:54

Oh, you mean the blame part? If you mean blaming porn stars in general – think probably projection on your part to be quite honest.

If you mean blaming the teacher, yeah the teacher is probably blameworthy IMO. I might not judge financial reasons, but some people have other reasons. But in general I wouldn't really care about moralising, would just want my child in a safe environment.

I’d have no more of a problem with my child watching their teacher so porn than watching anyone else do porn

I think this is an interesting mindset. I think for me, as I said earlier, there would definitely be heightened safeguarding concerns re: a teacher versus stranger.

  1. A child is even more likely to click on something they know they shouldn't click on if it's a trusted adult. Yeah, we can all pretend we're perfect parents with foolproof parenting, but that's not true.

  2. A child is even more likely to believe trusted adults getting naked with them and being sexual is OK if they see a trusted adult doing just that online.

  3. And personally to me, gender respect/equality as modelled by trusted adults is important as well.

And I’d make it clear that the consumer of porn is worse than the perpetrator.

I don't disagree with the essence of this (although if I had to dispute it, I would say the actual perpetrators i.e. those creating and distributing the porn industry, invariably male and wealthy, are the worst ones).

But perhaps not in the context of children viewing adults around them do porn. If my DD stumbles upon her teacher Mr Brown's willy, and gets curious looking for more, I'd want her to let me know, not make her feel like she's done something wrong and got poor Mr Brown into trouble!

Edited

Haven’t read most of your post because my opinion on this is not up for debate. I don’t know what you’re on about with regards to projection you ask my opinion I gave it to you it’s not up for discussion. I’m not interested in your point of view, you seem to want to have a row with me simply because I pointed out to you in your original post, that I thought you were being contradictory. I’m not interested in what you think of my opinions of women in porn m. I don’t blame any woman in porn

beatrix1234 · 22/11/2023 09:58

SoupDragon · 22/11/2023 08:55

Why does he need to do anything?

Apparently the OP feels lady in question needs to be punished.

Peablockfeathers · 22/11/2023 09:58

I’d have no more of a problem with my child watching their teacher so porn than watching anyone else do porn

What the fuck!

SpilltheTea · 22/11/2023 10:01

You should inform the church, there's a heathen in their midst.

BowlOfNoodles · 22/11/2023 10:01

Another vote for keeping 👃 out

TheJabberwocky · 22/11/2023 10:01

Peablockfeathers · 22/11/2023 09:58

I’d have no more of a problem with my child watching their teacher so porn than watching anyone else do porn

What the fuck!

The point being I wouldn’t like then watching anyone do porn.

Bromptotoo · 22/11/2023 10:06

Goodgirly · 22/11/2023 09:20

@Auntiesitting I'm not sure how Onlyfans works in detail, but I think it is 100% gated and paid for? Or you have to download it and sign up or something? So it is a bit different from lack of professionalism becoming public on other social media platforms, in that if someone finds it, they are a very active and deliberate porn consumer. Kind of like "we're all in this together". 😅

I only know what I've read plus what I found out 10-15 years ago when 'policing' my teenage son's activity but AIUI that's not 100% correct.

If you want to see the full 'movie' then it's probably necessary to sign up to OF etc and pay.

However sites like You Porn or X Hamster which are mainly free have extracts from OF stuff and a thousand and one other subscription sites there as a 'come on' to draw in subscribers.

I guess that's where teenage boys might just see a teacher though in reality it's needle/haystack territory that they'd find Miss Smith by chance. OTOH if you know her 'professional' name on OF I doubt it would be much of a challenge,

LittleGuinea · 22/11/2023 10:09

I find all these "none of their business", "people can do whatever they like in their spare time" arguments really strange. Lots of employers have rules on second jobs, social media and general behaviour outside the workplace. Mind boggling that so many people think that an employee engaging in sex work wouldn't be concerning/inappropriate/a downright breach of contract for most employers. In mine it would be gross misconduct and a quick exit.

Muchof · 22/11/2023 10:12

LittleGuinea · 22/11/2023 10:09

I find all these "none of their business", "people can do whatever they like in their spare time" arguments really strange. Lots of employers have rules on second jobs, social media and general behaviour outside the workplace. Mind boggling that so many people think that an employee engaging in sex work wouldn't be concerning/inappropriate/a downright breach of contract for most employers. In mine it would be gross misconduct and a quick exit.

I wouldn’t call it a second job though, there is no employment, no employer. I crochet and sell things on Etsy and I am damn sure it is none of my employers business, this scenario is more like my crocheting.

And yes many companies have strict rules on social media and I for one would have very little sympathy for somebody who uses social media to bring their company into disrepute. However I cannot for a second imagine that this employee is going this via onlyfans.

Loloj · 22/11/2023 10:12

This is a bizarre post - not of his business and none of your business- unless her contract specifically states otherwise.

Auntiesitting · 22/11/2023 10:13

x2boys · 22/11/2023 09:32

By the same token a manager asking his wife to start a thread on AIBU to.ask.whst he should do.in this situation, isn't professional either and I'm not sure HR would be impressed by it.

Where did the op say her husband asked her to start a thread here?

Petrie99 · 22/11/2023 10:13

Some of the replies on here are quite abrupt. I work in public sector, in my role there is a policy on secondary employment - this must be approved by immediate line manager and their line manager with consideration of any conflicts of interest and ethical issues. HR have no role in this and it is a detailed application.There is also a social media use policy and grounds for discipline action on bringing the employer into disrepute. I'm not sure if this would come under that, I guess it would depend on specifics of the policy. So yes in an ideal world it would be no ones business, assuming they are not using their employee info, but in many companies non illegal things are the company's business by nature of these contracts. Also in my area, HR are there to advise, but the manager is the one who is responsible for carrying out all of these actions and ensuring adherence to policy. As a line manager I'd be pulled up if it was known that ignored something that was a breach of policy, if indeed it is. The fact that the husband has spoken about it outside of work is a fair point but a separate one.

Cheesyfootballs01 · 22/11/2023 10:13

Nowherenew · 22/11/2023 09:56

I never said that you said all NHS employees are idiots.
But you said the NHS is on its knees because of people like him.

He’s not done anything wrongs and in fact sounds like a decent person by not jumping the gun and talking it through first.

If you think OP is an idiot for posting about it then say that, but that’s nothing to do with him or his job.

Check your last paragraph…

FWIW I think both the husband and OP sound like idiots.

And he’s completely in the wrong for discussing a confidential work issue outside of work! That’s ended up on an internet forum that tends to get threads in a certain daily newspaper 🤦🏻‍♀️

It also seems like plenty of other posters think he’s in the wrong as well…

Goodgirly · 22/11/2023 10:14

@TheJabberwocky well, I know you said you're not interested in my opinion, but to be fair, you quoted my post first and I just wanted to clarify. :)

You said:
it comes across very strongly that you are blaming the female teacher And saying that you wouldn’t want any teacher of your child’s to be involved in sex work.

Let's take the gender out of it... I generally wouldn't blame grown adults for sex work no. But yeah, I would be pretty angry at Mr Brown if my DD came across his willy, and you bet I'd blame Mr Brown. And yes, I don't want willy-waving Mr Brown teaching my DD!

I guess I'm just trying to understand your thoughts? I do kind of get it more – in that you think of all porn as equally harmful to your child anyway? – but well, as you said, you're not interested in a discussion, so let's leave it.

Nopetryagain · 22/11/2023 10:14

Muchof · 22/11/2023 10:12

I wouldn’t call it a second job though, there is no employment, no employer. I crochet and sell things on Etsy and I am damn sure it is none of my employers business, this scenario is more like my crocheting.

And yes many companies have strict rules on social media and I for one would have very little sympathy for somebody who uses social media to bring their company into disrepute. However I cannot for a second imagine that this employee is going this via onlyfans.

Fucking hell what has the world become when sex work is considered the same as crocheting??!!

Muchof · 22/11/2023 10:16

Nopetryagain · 22/11/2023 10:14

Fucking hell what has the world become when sex work is considered the same as crocheting??!!

Maybe read it in the context. I was responding to somebody referring to a second employment. It is the same scenario as in it is quite clearly not a second employment, in any legal or contractual sense, any more than my crochet is a second employment.

beatrix1234 · 22/11/2023 10:16

LittleGuinea · 22/11/2023 10:09

I find all these "none of their business", "people can do whatever they like in their spare time" arguments really strange. Lots of employers have rules on second jobs, social media and general behaviour outside the workplace. Mind boggling that so many people think that an employee engaging in sex work wouldn't be concerning/inappropriate/a downright breach of contract for most employers. In mine it would be gross misconduct and a quick exit.

Then it's her PR person to see if she's broken any company rules (yes, many companies have them and that's OK) not for us to tell the wife of the manager what "needs to be done with her". This is such a "how long is a string" question. Obvs the different professional fields have different attitudes towards showing your tits online. It's not the same if you work at Tesco's then if you work with vulnerable teens or in finance dealing with high profile clients.

ManateeFair · 22/11/2023 10:16

Oceniam · 21/11/2023 22:29

Did I not just say that he’s her manager?

It doesn't matter who he is.

It's absolutely none of his fucking business (and even less of yours) what she does in her spare time to make some extra money, whether that's OnlyFans or a Saturday job in a shop or delivering bloody Avon catalogues. Stop being so creepy and keep your beak out.

Nopetryagain · 22/11/2023 10:17

Muchof · 22/11/2023 10:16

Maybe read it in the context. I was responding to somebody referring to a second employment. It is the same scenario as in it is quite clearly not a second employment, in any legal or contractual sense, any more than my crochet is a second employment.

Self employment is second employment!