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Weirded out by compartmentalised wedding

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CeremonyMissing · 01/08/2023 09:54

Fully accept I am possibly BU with this, but we are going to "wedding" soon... except it's really just a party, because the bride and groom are marrying in a private ceremony on a different day.

I know people have lots of evening guests (I personally wouldn't) but I find it really weird and I'm not sure what to expect in terms of the order because it's not as if the wedding even happened earlier in the day. I don't really get how things are supposed to flow without having a ceremony, I've never been to a wedding without one before, and I also think it's the most important part – to see the couple get married!

Also I know nobody owes us a ceremony, or wedding invite, and nobody other than family is at the civil ceremony so it's not a case of being left out as such, but I think it's more that I find it so weird to go to / call it a "wedding" when you get married on a different day.. and don't see them make any vows.

As I said, I am almost certainly being unreasonable, but I just feel very weird about it (or maybe more widely the assumption that people are only interested in the party rather than the marriage bit itself). AIBU to feel weird about the separation of the wedding bit from the reception?

YABU - this is normal
YANBU - yes, it is a bit weird to separate it

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Jazzybean · 01/08/2023 10:51

I've been to a wedding like this. Registry office 'official' wedding mid-week with a couple of friends as witnesses, blessing ceremony in a beautiful outdoors location for a small handful of friends and family (the proper wedding as far as they were concerned), and then a big party for lots of people in the evening. Worked well for the couple and I loved it. I only attended the reception/party part (from mid-afternoon until late). I struggle to sit through a traditional wedding ceremony if I'm honest!

CeremonyMissing · 01/08/2023 10:51

Mrsjayy · 01/08/2023 10:50

They might do a celebrant blessing or something speeches and what not you are invited to celebrate their marraige regardless of a religious ceremony not everyone is religious doesn't mean they are not ,"properly " married.

I don't think this at all, it's not the lack of religiosity that bothers me. I don't think people are any less married for it not being in a church (although I do intend to marry in a church)

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AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 01/08/2023 10:52

they are calling it a wedding reception

So... they aren't calling it a wedding. They are calling it the wedding reception. Which is what it is....

Think of it like being invited to the evening only do (unforgiveable on MN I know), only probably with speeches.

It's really not that weird

qtpa2t · 01/08/2023 10:52

lots of people do this. What a strange thing to take an issue with🤣

Weflewinstyle · 01/08/2023 10:52

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minipie · 01/08/2023 10:52

I don’t think it’s weird for them to do it this way

I do think it’s a bit odd to call it a wedding. Wedding reception or party to celebrate our wedding is more accurate. But it’s not a biggie.

I find this set up (party the day after) a lot better than those weddings where there is a ceremony, formal meal and then an evening party straight after, and an extra set of people are invited for the evening party only. That to me is odd and creates a much more obvious split between different “categories” of guests.

LakeTiticaca · 01/08/2023 10:52

Sounds like a winner to me. No sitting through a boring ceremony, speeches, photography etc. Straight to the partyyyyyy!!

CeremonyMissing · 01/08/2023 10:53

AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 01/08/2023 10:52

they are calling it a wedding reception

So... they aren't calling it a wedding. They are calling it the wedding reception. Which is what it is....

Think of it like being invited to the evening only do (unforgiveable on MN I know), only probably with speeches.

It's really not that weird

no, they are actually calling it a wedding, I mistyped. it's only called the reception on a tiny part of the website, the rest of it has been "you are invited to the wedding"

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CeremonyMissing · 01/08/2023 10:53

LakeTiticaca · 01/08/2023 10:52

Sounds like a winner to me. No sitting through a boring ceremony, speeches, photography etc. Straight to the partyyyyyy!!

from what little I know of what will happen, I do think there will be speeches (speeches are my least favourite bit! a short speech is the best kind)

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IamnotSethRogan · 01/08/2023 10:54

I just think things are moving on from every wedding having to have the same formula. People might want to celebrate getting married with their friends but maybe without the pressure of the whole walking down the aisle scenario. A nice intimate ceremony but then a big party where they can just relax.

JusthereforXmas · 01/08/2023 10:54

The ceremony is literally just a legal contract... would you refuse to go to a house warming party because you didn't see the ceremony of them signing the deeds? would you refuse to go to a birthday because you never saw the birth certificate signed?

The mind set that you have to witness the 'ceremony' for it to matter is utterly baffling to me.

You are invited to celebrate with them so just do that. You aren't owed anything specific more than basic etiquette (shelter, access to water/toilets, food of some description etc...) even if they had a 'ceremony' they could have a completely non traditional wedding.

Consummation is part of the legal contract (and thus the ceremony) to do you wish to witness that completion as well.

CeremonyMissing · 01/08/2023 10:55

Jazzybean · 01/08/2023 10:51

I've been to a wedding like this. Registry office 'official' wedding mid-week with a couple of friends as witnesses, blessing ceremony in a beautiful outdoors location for a small handful of friends and family (the proper wedding as far as they were concerned), and then a big party for lots of people in the evening. Worked well for the couple and I loved it. I only attended the reception/party part (from mid-afternoon until late). I struggle to sit through a traditional wedding ceremony if I'm honest!

the bit I always struggle with sitting through is the speeches (this could be just my family, they are notorious for long, terrible speeches)

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Mayhem3 · 01/08/2023 10:55

I’ve always said if I were to ever change my mind and get married this is how I’d do it.

I think the actual getting married part is really personal and I’d only want a couple of people there to make it as intimate as possible.
But I’d have something bigger for everyone else so they don’t feel excluded.

I think you’re overthinking this and a bit stuck in your ways.
It will be fun and you should be grateful that they’ve chosen you to be a part of their special day, even if it’s not in the traditional sense that you’re used to.

Mrsjayy · 01/08/2023 10:56

CeremonyMissing · 01/08/2023 10:51

I don't think this at all, it's not the lack of religiosity that bothers me. I don't think people are any less married for it not being in a church (although I do intend to marry in a church)

You are just annoyed that they didn't invite people/ you to the ceremony it's not the huge deal you are making out your not really hurt or whatever just annoyed!

CeremonyMissing · 01/08/2023 10:56

JusthereforXmas · 01/08/2023 10:54

The ceremony is literally just a legal contract... would you refuse to go to a house warming party because you didn't see the ceremony of them signing the deeds? would you refuse to go to a birthday because you never saw the birth certificate signed?

The mind set that you have to witness the 'ceremony' for it to matter is utterly baffling to me.

You are invited to celebrate with them so just do that. You aren't owed anything specific more than basic etiquette (shelter, access to water/toilets, food of some description etc...) even if they had a 'ceremony' they could have a completely non traditional wedding.

Consummation is part of the legal contract (and thus the ceremony) to do you wish to witness that completion as well.

I'm not refusing to go though

I think they've already.. er, consummated things. they used to be our housemates and on occasion forgot to shut the door

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ClaudiaWankleman · 01/08/2023 10:57

CeremonyMissing · 01/08/2023 10:14

thanks @toomuchlaundry, this is exactly it. marriage is incredibly important to me and while the most important thing is whatever arrangement has to work for the couple, it just seems a bit sad to not be part of it

The concept of marriage might be important to you, but this should manifest itself through your own marriage. No one else's marriage should matter this much to you. It's incredibly weird to react in the way you are.

CeremonyMissing · 01/08/2023 10:57

Mrsjayy · 01/08/2023 10:56

You are just annoyed that they didn't invite people/ you to the ceremony it's not the huge deal you are making out your not really hurt or whatever just annoyed!

more that it's a civil ceremony, so if the religious thing was an issue, me going to the ceremony wouldn't solve that?

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Phineyj · 01/08/2023 10:59

@venusandmars listed most of the reasons we did this, 20 years ago.

Practical ones.

One friend did moan as she thought it wasn't worth travelling for an afternoon. Er, thanks.

I personally, dislike the church bit as I am not religious, there's a lot of hanging around and the pews are invariably uncomfortable.

Each to their own!

Peony654 · 01/08/2023 11:01

YABU. It’s up to the couple what they do, and they are valuing their ceremony by having it as a private moment. Don’t go if you don’t like it - simple

MistyBean · 01/08/2023 11:02

I actually think it's quite offensive that you keep suggesting it's not a wedding, and keep refering to whether or not the invite says wedding reception or not. For them, these few days are their wedding, and their celebration of their commitment to each other.

Ginmonkeyagain · 01/08/2023 11:04

I have been to two weddings like this. Both because both the couples wanted Humanist ceremonies but they are not legally binding in England and Wales, so they had the "real" civil wedding the day before with just very close family.

Mr Monkey, a very lapsed Catholic who had a pretty unlapsed Catholic upbringing was a bit weirded out by it like you.

Artemi · 01/08/2023 11:05

Also- at least you know in advance that you're not seeing the legal bit!

Was invited to a wedding once with the address being a registry office and then reception at a nearby restaurant

Didn't realise until I turned up on the day that we were just meeting the couple outside the registry AFTER the ceremony to all walk together to the restaurant. Totally understandable due to limited numbers etc, but I wasn't expecting it and was a bit discombobulated/thought I'd got the time wrong! The couple are the loveliest, kindest people though so it was just lost in translation on the invites (I wasn't the only one confused)

Personally I find non-legal wedding ceremonies* a bit fake and naff. If you need to do the legal bit in a registry because your venue isn't licensed that's fine, but I think the "performance" of a ceremony slightly detracts from the preciousness of those vows, which you hopefully only make once (regardless of the ugliness of the decor!). Just have the reception/party at the pretty venue without a ceremony

*Exception for a non-legal religious wedding of the couple's faith/culture
But having two civil/non-religious weddings just because one is in a nicer location/can fit more people is a bit silly

Loubielou1 · 01/08/2023 11:05

Weddings are a traditional thing where you usually know what to expect. It can be unsettling and confusing when people break with tradition and do things differently.

I get this because I like a traditional funeral service but my mum wants a pure cremation with no service and for us to just go for a meal. I'm uneasy with it but it's my mums funeral so she gets to choose.

You say you feel like they're assuming people will be more interested in the party than the ceremony but I'm not sure that's it. They are thinking about what they want and they want a small ceremony and a bigger party.

Think of it as a party to celebrate them getting married and focus on the fact that they want you there to celebrate with them.

I know a few couples who have got married abroad and then had a wedding reception type do at home for friends and family. It's not that uncommon nowadays.

ladycarlotta · 01/08/2023 11:06

Most of the weddings I've been to over the past ten years, the actual legal marriage has taken place elsewhere, either quietly on the day of the wedding or at some point in the months/weeks/days prior. Some have still had a ceremony and vows in front of the guests, but at others it's just like going straight to the reception. There are generally still speeches, toasts, food, cake cutting, dancing etc etc. It doesn't feel any different.
And as PPs have said, it's up to them which part of their wedding they want to share with their guests, and how. You aren't owed anything.

Mrsjayy · 01/08/2023 11:06

CeremonyMissing · 01/08/2023 10:57

more that it's a civil ceremony, so if the religious thing was an issue, me going to the ceremony wouldn't solve that?

You are not really making much sense I don't understand what you mean. You are either annoyed or not ?