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KewNutty · 29/06/2023 06:44

I have 2 children (6y and 8m) im also 7 weeks pregnant (not planned, judge if u want) and we have a dog (rottweiler) i dont work atm, my partners work varys alot, sometimes he can start at 3am sometimes he can start at 7/8am and get home anywhere between about 5pm to midnight. He works, i do everything else, im not saying i do it well, but i do do it.
I recently asked if he could start helping wash up after dinner if hes home at a reasonable dinner time, it caused an argument but he has been helping. Yesterday i realised id gotten behind on the washing so i got a load in and hung it out to dry (no tumble dryer) this morning, at 5.30 my partner started emptying drawers, throwing his clothes everywhere and woke up both children because (i hadnt realised) hed run out of pants and then ones i had washed werent dry yet. I understand him being annoyed in the situation, i think he did over react. Ive asked for help before, but he believes that because he works, i can do all the home things.
Anyway, am i being unreasonable to ask for more help than just the washing up?

For more context-
His work can be very physically tiring, and sometimes mentally tiring, he does work alot of hours and some of the jobs he does not alot of people could handle (i know i couldnt)

I do all housework, cleaning, washing, tidying (again, my house is not spotless right now) and all care concerning the kids (bed, bath, activities, school run etc) i clean the clothes and cook the meals. I get behind on things, especially after a weekend when everyone is home, then it takes me the week to catch up.

OP posts:
Maireas · 29/06/2023 07:52

All of what @Needanewnamebeingwatched says, plus get a tumble dryer.
Oh, and a joint account.

KewNutty · 29/06/2023 07:54

Sorry, didnt mean to make this about the money, i have a house and my kids are well fed and happy, we have everything we need, i was just hoping for him to put a wash on every so often, or take the kids so i can clean if hes home, thats all.

OP posts:
DeathMetalMum · 29/06/2023 07:55

He should be more than capable of monitoring his own pants, and putting a wash on if he knows he need something. Didn't he realise when he used his last pair that he should maybe check if there were any clean ones washed at least?

In our house I do most of the washing and if it's not in the basket it doesn't get washed. Dp and dc know this. Everyone is responsible for putting their own clothes away. I wouldn't be traipsing round trying to find if anything of his needs washing - he's an adult. Sometimes if I don't have a full load I ask dp if he has anything else for the basket, and sometimes he will half fill it sometimes it will be one thing. It's on him to make sure he has enough clothes to wear though IMO. Even if that's asking if we are doing a load as he's low on something. I wouldn't accept him blaming me for no clean pants

AutumnCrow · 29/06/2023 07:55

Oh lord you poor woman. He’s abusing you, financially and emotionally.

I agree with @billy1966 that you should think about this 7 week pregnancy with a view to not being pregnant by him any more.

And get advice on living apart. Women’s Aid are good.

He can keep the dog.

Herringbone1 · 29/06/2023 07:56

Have you tried team tomm? I used this on maternity leave and it was great. You do a room per day. She has a website - rock the housework, it’s £3 per month and she talks you through cleaning and gives you a set time to do it. Really helps me not to hyper focus on cleaning an area for too long.

RJnomore1 · 29/06/2023 08:00

billy1966 · 29/06/2023 07:41

Of course he should help but he doesn't want to.

He thinks you are the house skivvy.

You are so vulnerable.

Re think this third pregnancy quickly OP.

Is your eldest child his?

If not even more reason to not go ahead.

Being a sahm when you are not married makes you so vulnerable.

A third child, with 2 under 2, with a partner who has zero intention to be involved will be a lot worse than this.

Time to get real about your situation.

Thank feck for some sensible responses.

HopelessEstateAgents · 29/06/2023 08:00

Oysterbabe · 29/06/2023 06:51

I think part and parcel of being a SAHM is staying on top of most of the housework. I'd be annoyed at the lack of pants if I was him too.

Hey @Oysterbabe, I think you misread the OP - she has two tiny kids and is pregnant, rather than being a well rested housewife from 1957

HopelessEstateAgents · 29/06/2023 08:02

He sounds horrible- throwing his things about. You have a small baby, a child and you're pregnant. No, the housework is NOT your sole responsibility, but his behaviour IS HIS.

Ignore the handmaidens on this thread

bussteward · 29/06/2023 08:02

Herringbone1 · 29/06/2023 07:56

Have you tried team tomm? I used this on maternity leave and it was great. You do a room per day. She has a website - rock the housework, it’s £3 per month and she talks you through cleaning and gives you a set time to do it. Really helps me not to hyper focus on cleaning an area for too long.

OP doesn’t have £3 a month because she’s being financially abused.

Catchasingmewithspiders · 29/06/2023 08:02

Herringbone1 · 29/06/2023 07:56

Have you tried team tomm? I used this on maternity leave and it was great. You do a room per day. She has a website - rock the housework, it’s £3 per month and she talks you through cleaning and gives you a set time to do it. Really helps me not to hyper focus on cleaning an area for too long.

She's being financially abused by her partner, I'm not sure a suggestion for a paid cleaning website to make sure she's on top of the housework is really going to work

Betterlatethanontime · 29/06/2023 08:03

Sending a big hug. You need to to work smart not hard. My husband was a bit like yours. Find a routine, and focus on the important stuff. If he doesn’t put his clothes in the washing basket don’t wash them. You will probably have a few issues but eventually he will get the point (or you will have less washing). Buy cheap ready made meals, less washing up. Fill the sink with very hot soapy water and just leave the dishes to soak for an hour. Then you can just rinse and leave to air dry. If you are exhausted just leave the rinse and air dry to the morning. Only have a few toys out at a time, less to pick up. Put husbands clean washing (if he had any) unfolded in a basket. If he wants it put away he can do it. Get a box, everything your husband leaves out just put it in the box and leave it for him. In six months time ask him to leave the stuff he doesn’t want in the box and you will get rid of it. Empty box into bin. Find the time of day you have the most energy, set a timer and clean for 15 minutes. With the money shop at a place you can buy gift cards with your food shopping money. You can use the gift cards to buy what you need for yourself and kids. Don’t stress about the house not being perfect. Make a long term plan to leave if that’s what you want. Xx

bevm72yellow · 29/06/2023 08:03

Does he have a hobby he likes to go to? Does it take priority over you getting time for an activity you want to do? E.g sport or gaming. Do you buy and pay for all his clothing with your allowance? Who makes financial decisions about big " asset items" e.g. car, investments, bank account administration? Is your bank account easily shared or individual? Is his name on mortgage/ deeds or both names? If you are not joint in , consulted about or repeatedly overruled on big decisions he is financially abusing you or at the minimum you are vulnerable if the relationship started to deteriorate. You are not there to pick up and do every task after him....eg laundry, dishes , cleaning snotty noses/ washing a child.

KewNutty · 29/06/2023 08:04

@Herringbone1 i havent heard of this, ill check it out, thank you!
I dont want to leave him guys, we do have a good relationship, i just want some help with some housework
@HopelessEstateAgents most women in the 1950 only managed to get it all done because they were on drugs that helped keep them going too!

OP posts:
ZairWazAnOldLady · 29/06/2023 08:04

Well you can change the situation with the money. Of course you should be able to access all the family funds! It’s silly and infantilising not to. Surely paying the bills and organising the money is part of being a SAHM? The easiest way to organise it is to split the income down the middle, then each pay into an account a set amount each month to cover the bills, savings and household expenses. What’s left in your accounts is then yours to do what you want with.

Catchasingmewithspiders · 29/06/2023 08:05

Needanewnamebeingwatched · 29/06/2023 07:49

Get rid of the dog

Get organised and have a set routine
You are responsible for all housework, washing, drying.

He can put his clothes in the laundry basket or it doesn't get washed, put in a pile by his side of thr bed

The 6yr old can do the same

He can bath kids and put them to bed, when he is home

Cook or clear up after dinner when he is home

You are responsible for all housework, washing, drying.

Why? Who decided that? Did the pregnant woman even get a say in this?

Her partner is abusive how easily do you think a conversation about getting rid of his dog will go?

He doesn't need to he told to use the washing basket, he knows. He's a grown adult with a job, he knows. He chooses to treat her as a skivvy.

QueenOfThe20StoneAge · 29/06/2023 08:06

I appreciate his work and his long hours, i just would like a small bit of help, when he can.

What about your (unpaid!!) work and long hours?

He sounds like a poor excuse for a 'partner' OP. What does he add to your life other than pant-throwing tantrums and financial abuse?

Catchasingmewithspiders · 29/06/2023 08:07

KewNutty · 29/06/2023 08:04

@Herringbone1 i havent heard of this, ill check it out, thank you!
I dont want to leave him guys, we do have a good relationship, i just want some help with some housework
@HopelessEstateAgents most women in the 1950 only managed to get it all done because they were on drugs that helped keep them going too!

He leaves all of his clothes lying around for you to pick up and deal with and gets annoyed when you don't. Don't practically nothing around the house. And doesn't give you fair access to money.

This is not a good relationship. Despite your efforts to portray it as a good relationship his contempt for you is still apparent.

RJnomore1 · 29/06/2023 08:08

In what way do you have a good relationship?

HopelessEstateAgents · 29/06/2023 08:08

You are being financially abused OP. You need to demand equal access to all money, immediately. This is much more serious than the housework issue.

Herringbone1 · 29/06/2023 08:09

crossstitchingnana · 29/06/2023 06:59

No pants? Well, no-one is perfect and it sounds like you are also working hard and doing your best.

IMO he should be helping, say washing up and clearing up and odd load of washing. Apart from anything it makes him a good role model for your kids.

The bulk of it should be done by you as the SAHP (it's what I did) but if you're behind for eg then, yes he should help as you are a team. It took my dh a while to realise that being home with 2 kids is not easy.

Regarding getting a cleaner? I just think about my mum in the 70s with 3 under 3, bills paid in person, no convenience food, internet shopping, a twin tub machine and terry nappies. She did it all.

Your last sentence isn’t helpful. If someone’s down you don’t tell them about how wonderful someone was at the thing they can’t do.

There’s also no comparison at all to your grandmother in the 70s. Back then things were completely different in terms of parenting, far less toys to tidy away, babies and kids left to cry a lot more, less awareness of child development and the importance of playing with your children, all services much more local than they are now, more community than there is today, no phones so less contactable (whether that’s a good thing or not I’m not sure). If I could have put my baby at the end of the garden for a nap instead of spending hours rocking them to sleep I’m sure I’d have more time for housework. I know which one I’d rather do though knowing what I know today. I’m not criticising your grandmother, she was doing what she felt was right but it’s a different world we live in now.

MostlyBlueberryFlavoured · 29/06/2023 08:12

I'd:

  1. Bin off the dog - rottweilers aren't safe around babies and toddlers anyway so win/win
  1. Stop doing his laundry; this puts him in control of his pantage
  1. Seriously consider how a new baby will fit into this less-than-joyful-sounding setup.
TheInterceptor · 29/06/2023 08:13

Does his dog get walked adequately? Or is it as unhappy as you, OP?

MostlyBlueberryFlavoured · 29/06/2023 08:14

TheInterceptor · 29/06/2023 08:13

Does his dog get walked adequately? Or is it as unhappy as you, OP?

My guess is unhappy, unsafe, badly behaved 🤷‍♀️

bussteward · 29/06/2023 08:15

Regarding getting a cleaner? I just think about my mum in the 70s with 3 under 3, bills paid in person, no convenience food, internet shopping, a twin tub machine and terry nappies. She did it all.
Sounds like a happy and fulfilling life 🥰

Betterlatethanontime · 29/06/2023 08:16

You could re home the dog and say it ran away.

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