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Sarah Phillimore and Robin Moira White interviewed by Andrew Doyle

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DerekFaker · 22/01/2023 22:40

About the Scottish gender recognition bill

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Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 30/01/2023 17:15

Mmmnotsure · 30/01/2023 16:51

Robin suggests the views of Bryson/Graham's wife might hold the key to whether or not B/G's trans status is genuine.

Do other wives/ex wives get to decide re their husbands/ex husbands too? Could Robin's?

I thought the same. If Graham’s wife can say he is lying so therefore Robin can say Graham is not a TW then surely the fact that Robin married at all can be used to disprove Robin saying he always knew he should be a woman? Or, it could be said marrying a woman under false pretences is nasty, and if you do something nasty you are not a TW apparently, according to Robin? Just following the same logic. Not being personal.

TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 17:20

Sounds like RMW is arguing that the Spousal Veto should actually be a real veto…

…rather than just a delay in the granting of a GRC while the marriage is legally ended?

RMW is going to be attacked as a terf any minute now… gonna be hard for RMW deny when RMW has a Mumsnet account, guilt by association and all that.

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:27

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MmePoppySeedDefage · 30/01/2023 18:22

Arf.

But they were pink leggings therefore the leggings of a ladee, no? Acceptance without exception, no?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/01/2023 18:34

DialSquare · 30/01/2023 17:05

I'm reminded of the song "Little does she know" by the Kuurssl Flyers!

I've been singing the last few posts to the tune of Blur's Girls and Boys

ILikeDungs · 30/01/2023 18:36

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OttersMayHaveShiftedInTransit · 30/01/2023 18:49

It really is such a small thing to bring the whole house of cards crashing down.

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 18:51

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I think you give a very clear analysis of the effect that Sarah's public announcement that she would no longer lie about anyone's pronouns prior to the debate most likely had on, and consequently altered, the narrative that came from the other side of the debate.

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 18:58

Oh come on! What was that one for?

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 18:59

OttersMayHaveShiftedInTransit · 30/01/2023 18:49

It really is such a small thing to bring the whole house of cards crashing down.

😁

rabbitwoman · 30/01/2023 19:02

Why have mumsnet removed the post showing the front page of tomorrow's daily record!??

I really think that there should have been a way to make life easier for trans women and trans men without compelling teenaged girls doing a beauty course to strip off infront of a rapist.

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 19:04

rabbitwoman · 30/01/2023 19:02

Why have mumsnet removed the post showing the front page of tomorrow's daily record!??

I really think that there should have been a way to make life easier for trans women and trans men without compelling teenaged girls doing a beauty course to strip off infront of a rapist.

Did i write something awful under it. I don't remember. I said the previous poster was correct they were pink. Did I insinuate something from that? Or?

OttersMayHaveShiftedInTransit · 30/01/2023 19:11

Did i write something awful under it.
Nah I think I did that because you laughed. I just meant a pair of leggings was a minor insignificant thing.....honest 😉

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 19:12

It must just have been that someone hates the Daily Record then.

Rightsraptor · 30/01/2023 19:34

Oh no - I missed the Daily Record front page. Are you permitted to describe it to me using words, as obviously the image is verbotten?

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 19:42

Rightsraptor · 30/01/2023 19:34

Oh no - I missed the Daily Record front page. Are you permitted to describe it to me using words, as obviously the image is verbotten?

Well it was detailing a story about the Poor girls forced to undress in front of a grown man, a double rapist at that who is a transwoman.

They used the lovely photo is Isla in a skin tight pair of pink leggings. Had it been a top and a woman woman id have described them as small and pert, but not much to see. But as it was leggings i was rather surprised to see what i saw and may have inadvertently described it as a woman's appendage.

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 19:44

🐓 proceeded by lady

Rightsraptor · 30/01/2023 19:49

Sounds pretty tame to me, given the circumstances. Doesn't 'Isla' know about looking in a mirror before leaving the house?

Rightsraptor · 30/01/2023 19:50

Ah, the roosteress might have tipped the balance there.

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 19:55

Rightsraptor · 30/01/2023 19:50

Ah, the roosteress might have tipped the balance there.

I fear so! There appears there are limits!

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 19:57

God I talk of cock and a Labour circular from Keir Starmer appears in my inbox. I obviously left a spell in the cauldron.

GiantKitten · 01/02/2023 18:46

Oh this is pure delight - well worth a watch - Maya and Helen J sitting right behind RMW!

twitter.com/lorcaat/status/1620513214877544448?

Sarah Phillimore and Robin Moira White interviewed by Andrew Doyle
StephanieSuperpowers · 01/02/2023 18:57

Oooh, Maya! That's a death stare!

Happylittlechicken · 01/02/2023 20:39

Well after seeing that, it’s funny, RMW looks and sounds exactly as I had pictured RMW in my head (nightmares). It’s also weird how all the TRA are running from ‘believe people when they tell you who they are’ and ‘no one will pretend to be trans’, to ‘this isn’t really a transwoman, it’s a man pretending to be trans’. You know, the thing we were told would never happen. And If RMW believes men will pretend to be trans for nefarious reasons, as RMW has just stated, then could RMW explain exactly how women are supposed to tell who is pretending and who is a true and honest transwoman? @RobinMoiraWhite any hints?

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