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Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #66

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nauticant · 30/09/2026 12:59

TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.
The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings.

There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

Thread 64: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583133-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-64 27 September 2026 to 29 September 2026

Thread 65: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583663-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-65 29 September 2026 to 30 September 2026

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Mmmnotsure · 01/10/2026 09:49

RCN must have over half a million female members. And yet Marquis concentrates on lots (?) of trans members.

The end comment from Nick Wallis' blog struck home, re Naomi Cunningham pointing out that fear stops RCN moving from gender ideology

"Fear of opprobrium, fear of trans activists, fear of how they might target and attack any part of the organisation that dares to break cover, go public, acknowledge or even celebrate their gender critical members."

My bold. Can you imagine!

Wishesandhorses · 01/10/2026 09:56

I really would like it pinned down as to how many women = 1 person who has identified as trans.

With honesty about the ratio if the person identifying as trans is actually a woman too.

Because it is, always, actually, 1 man's interests = trashing the equality, access, interests, emotional and actual physical safety (not the 'literal' kind but proven rapes and assaults ending in prison sentences) of every woman who does and ever will use that particular resource.

The sexism needs pulling out from behind the 'inclusion' figleaf.

Appalonia · 01/10/2026 09:58

And we're off!

BlueLegume · 01/10/2026 09:59

Tanya De Grunwald has put out a new episode on her This isn’t Working podcast. It explores the impact on employees who have been expected to go along with trans identifying people/colleagues. It is worth a listen/watch. Hope the link works if not you can just check out her podcast.

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Appalonia · 01/10/2026 10:01

I met Tanya a few years ago at The Battle of Ideas in London. Such a bright, lovely woman.

Boiledbeetle · 01/10/2026 10:02

Just read Nick's blog and was outraged by PMs responses all over again.

BettyBooper · 01/10/2026 10:04

BlueLegume · 01/10/2026 09:59

Tanya De Grunwald has put out a new episode on her This isn’t Working podcast. It explores the impact on employees who have been expected to go along with trans identifying people/colleagues. It is worth a listen/watch. Hope the link works if not you can just check out her podcast.

Ha! Was literally just watching this while WFTCHTJ!

Really interesting episode.

Justabaker · 01/10/2026 10:04

Is anyone in? Still waiting here.

ILikeDungs · 01/10/2026 10:04

Justabaker · 01/10/2026 10:04

Is anyone in? Still waiting here.

Still waiting

BettyBooper · 01/10/2026 10:05

Justabaker · 01/10/2026 10:04

Is anyone in? Still waiting here.

I'm in

BettyBooper · 01/10/2026 10:05

Judge has just entered the room

Boiledbeetle · 01/10/2026 10:05

The judge has arrived.

BettyBooper · 01/10/2026 10:06

Can't hear anything though...

ILikeDungs · 01/10/2026 10:06

In, and possibly adjourning for half hour?

Cailleach1 · 01/10/2026 10:07

I followed NW over the Post Office scandal. I am delighted he did not disappoint on this. Sane and reasonable. He knows what rot is when he comes across it. And, most of all, doesn’t give it a free pass just because it mainly disbenefits women.

Signalbox · 01/10/2026 10:07

Does everyone else have sound? I don't know whether to log out and back in.

Signalbox · 01/10/2026 10:08

BettyBooper · 01/10/2026 10:06

Can't hear anything though...

Me neither

Boiledbeetle · 01/10/2026 10:08

Signalbox · 01/10/2026 10:07

Does everyone else have sound? I don't know whether to log out and back in.

Silence for me

BettyBooper · 01/10/2026 10:08

Signalbox · 01/10/2026 10:07

Does everyone else have sound? I don't know whether to log out and back in.

Nope, no sound...

ApexDragonfly · 01/10/2026 10:08

I have no sound either

fanOfBen · 01/10/2026 10:08

I have sound, in TR-TR4

borntobequiet · 01/10/2026 10:08

The BBC article hasn’t been updated since 25/09. I’ve complained.

ILikeDungs · 01/10/2026 10:08

I have sound and they are going ahead now

ALoveOnceNewHasNowGrownOld · 01/10/2026 10:09

fanOfBen · 01/10/2026 09:29

I can c&p this morning - can someone else do this afternoon?

Most likely not, sorry. But I could do an hour now if that's any help? Give me a few minutes, I would just need to get into TTs.

fanOfBen · 01/10/2026 10:10

From TT:

[Live feed commences]
Awaiting judge

Judge enters
J Thank you for written documents but if you wish to supplement, and I would like you to take us through.
NC I have just now opened MR Hay's document which I will need to read; I suggest we take a brief adjournment to read and for you to read, and I will be enabled

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