Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #65

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

Thread 64: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583133-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-64 27 September 2026 to 29 September 2026

She doesn't need to hop to see over the pinnacle.

"No longer correct"? They were NEVER correct, you just listened to Stonewall and the GLP rather than informing yourselves about the actual law.

It was going so well until ..

Topping:
· 50 g butter, melted
· 2 tablespoons golden syrup
· 1 cup rolled oats
· 1 cup desiccated coconuts

· 1 cup desiccated coconuts devil's dandruff

From TT:

doc. Is this also being looked at again.
PM This doc not removed but is being looked at.
DH Re the SC FWS decision. [to p 841] Recognise that?
PM Yes.
DH Headed RCN position on SC judgment, issued 30 April 2025, not long after decision of SC. Aware of any reason RCN made

this statement. Any particular reason.
PM Not aware of particular reason. We issue when legislation etc has impact on members
DH Doc says RCN is carefully considering decision and impact on members. Consideration is still continuing to some extent?
PM Yes

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Translation of "no longer correct" - illegal.

I hope NC asks her about the other nurses and what went on there, including why they were told to write homework about their "values".

I don't think Wittgenstein did say this, tbh. Perhaps it was the condensed milk issue that stopped him.

I bet you could substitute this - it's the stuff Bounty fillings are made of and I dare you to criticise it.

https://amzn.eu/d/02hFDYbV

You could probably make it without or with more oats or some seeds thrown in, sesame would work well, I think, or maybe some chopped hazelnuts or almonds. Having said all that, ds doesn't usually like coconut (unless as cream in a curry) but this is his favourite cakey thing nonetheless.

She's annoying the shit out of me right now.

Different views yes, but luckily there is legislation to help!

From TT:

DH Are you aware of any RCN members, nurses who are t?
PM Yes
DH Aware of RCN member who may have more gc beliefs
PM Yes
DH Any approach of RCN managing balance between
PM Managing balance. 600,000 people, various views, balance and being inclusive as can be of different views

DH [to p 914] RCN statement on update of EHRC code of practice, published 21 May 2026. [reads] Want to promote tolerance and understanding etc in difficult and complex
PM I see it as being difficult and complex. Different views across our membership and society

Has the word 'women' come up at all, apart from 'For Women Scotland'?

Naomi is going to have a field day with this one.

PM Managing balance. 600,000 people, various views, balance and being inclusive as can be of different views

🤔

I'm repeating myself from yesterday but - wouldn't it be good if all unions' first action when faced with a difficult case was to say
'Right folks- what does the law/workplace regulations/ etc have to say about it, and we'll take it from there'

True, but we should expect better from the Times; the journalist didn't use the abbreviation, he wrote it all out. Someone should have spotted it and corrected it but they clearly don't understand the context.

Perhaps the journalist and editor should read the comments on their articles?

One of those <head explodes> moments.
These people baffle me, honestly.

<< drools >>

DH Aware of RCN member who may have more gc beliefs
PM Yes

So this witness does know what the membership thinks - though may have more is quite a few words to use where one would have done

It's like sofa dressing, isn't it? They're so busy picking what colours the cushions and fabric will be that they've forgotten to assemble the frame.

Bethany Hutchison looks like a woman who has found her purpose in life. Nursing is a very good and important job but I suspect constraining (even if she didn't recognise it). Building and leading an organisation to support women has given her a real glow.

Plus she's beautiful.

From TT:

to find balance between people who have different views and some with no particular views is challenging.
DH EHRC any particular angle RCN would like to see
PM We were hoping for clearer guidance for our members as to how to care for patients in day to day work

PM Code hasn't answered those qs yet
DH Case has heard from Jennifer Wilmot, recognised complexities for nurses dealing with t patients,
PM We've had a lot of feedback from members - biggest concern as to how to care for patients who are t.

This is the bingo card for this lady...

...

Can you have more GC beliefs? You either believe in sex based reality or you don't. You can't think that you can change your sex a little bit, or that some people can and some people can't. You either hold GC beliefs or you don't.